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Re: Tiago llori

by Victor Meldrew » 14 Jan 2019 12:09

Theroyalbox wrote:Am I the only one who thinks illori is a decent CB and worth more than £3 million...?


One week he looks worth £6 million, the next £1.
Whether a player can become more consistent is the issue.
It's not as if he is inexperienced so that reason doesn't work.
Is he in the wrong league?-Maybe.

We will see over the next 2 weeks whether the club feels strongly enough about his ability to keep him.

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Re: Tiago llori

by Denver Royal » 14 Jan 2019 12:57

Theroyalbox wrote:Am I the only one who thinks illori is a decent CB and worth more than £3 million...?

In which league? His 'worth' might be tied to that. As Victor says, may be in the wrong league. The Champ isn't for everyone. He doesn't fit the profile of Champ CB's. He suits Gomes' style, but think he - and we - would be better if he played next to a tower. If Gomes could 'arrange' that, one way or another, I'd be ok with Ilori (and if he cut down his mistakes).
(Vic, have you heard of any interest for Moore this window, like there was last?)
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Re: Tiago llori

by Coppells Lost Coat » 14 Jan 2019 13:02

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Hound wrote:
Theroyalbox wrote:Am I the only one who thinks illori is a decent CB and worth more than £3 million...?


I think he is potentially worth more than 3m. too many mistakes recently have certainly hit his value. He has tons of ability if he could concentrate better and make better decisions at times.

I'd personally like him to stay, but can understand why we'd cash in


He'd look pretty much international class in a slower league I feel. In Spain or Portugal he'd get a lot more time on the ball and would make far less mistakes because he'd hardly ever be pressed. I don't think the Championship suits his game at all.


This.
Do think he shapes up wrong when balls get flown in at the box, he also loses concentration on his positioning a lil too often too. Should be easy to coach him out of those though.
Think a settled back 5 would help his game too.

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Re: Tiago llori

by 6ft Kerplunk » 14 Jan 2019 13:09

Coppells Lost Coat wrote:Do think he shapes up wrong when balls get flown in at the box, he also loses concentration on his positioning a lil too often too. Should be easy to coach him out of those though.

If he was 18 I'd agree with you. But he's 25, it should already have been sorted by now. I think he's a decent player but this may well be his level.

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Re: Tiago llori

by Snowflake Royal » 14 Jan 2019 22:05

Hound wrote:
Theroyalbox wrote:Am I the only one who thinks illori is a decent CB and worth more than £3 million...?


I think he is potentially worth more than 3m. too many mistakes recently have certainly hit his value. He has tons of ability if he could concentrate better and make better decisions at times.

I'd personally like him to stay, but can understand why we'd cash in

Same here.


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Re: Tiago llori

by Zip » 14 Jan 2019 22:31

Victor Meldrew wrote:
Theroyalbox wrote:Am I the only one who thinks illori is a decent CB and worth more than £3 million...?


One week he looks worth £6 million, the next £1.
Whether a player can become more consistent is the issue.
It's not as if he is inexperienced so that reason doesn't work.
Is he in the wrong league?-Maybe.

We will see over the next 2 weeks whether the club feels strongly enough about his ability to keep him.


That’s a good summary. He is a high risk player who makes too many mistakes for my liking, His passing out of defence is risky, When it comes off it looks good but too often he messes up.
I’m happy to see him go. If he stays he must become more consistent.

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Re: Tiago llori

by NewCorkSeth » 16 Jan 2019 08:56

Zip wrote:
Victor Meldrew wrote:
Theroyalbox wrote:Am I the only one who thinks illori is a decent CB and worth more than £3 million...?


One week he looks worth £6 million, the next £1.
Whether a player can become more consistent is the issue.
It's not as if he is inexperienced so that reason doesn't work.
Is he in the wrong league?-Maybe.

We will see over the next 2 weeks whether the club feels strongly enough about his ability to keep him.


That’s a good summary. He is a high risk player who makes too many mistakes for my liking, His passing out of defence is risky, When it comes off it looks good but too often he messes up.
I’m happy to see him go. If he stays he must become more consistent.

That could easily be describing David Luiz. Not that I'm saying Ilori is as good as Luiz. Or that it's incorrect. I still like Ilori a lot. Reckon he would do a job as a Libero in a back 3 (A modern style one obviously) as he has all the attributes to be a deep lying play maker.

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Re: Tiago llori

by Hound » 16 Jan 2019 10:21

Don't think he often gives the ball away. The mistakes are generally poor marking/concentration rather than risky passes

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Re: Tiago llori

by NewCorkSeth » 16 Jan 2019 10:42

Hound wrote:Don't think he often gives the ball away. The mistakes are generally poor marking/concentration rather than risky passes

I think his bad passes stick in your mind as when they're bad, they're awful.


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Re: Tiago llori

by Sutekh » 16 Jan 2019 10:45

Apparently there are conflicting reports in the Portuguese press on this one now.

http://sportwitness.co.uk/club-trying-d ... and-still/

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Re: Tiago llori

by From Despair To Where? » 16 Jan 2019 10:56

So basically, he'll only be 4th choice so Sporting don't want to pay more than €2.2m and want to pay in installments, we want €3m up front, Gomes doesn't want to sell and Ilori isn't entirely sold on the move either.

I can see this happening for about €1.5m in the summer if we go down.

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Re: Tiago llori

by Hound » 16 Jan 2019 11:09

I expect that Ilori is very much central to Gomes plans. If he is happy enough to stay he will, if he really wants to go to SL, then he probably will go there.

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Re: Tiago llori

by royal_rumble » 16 Jan 2019 11:37

6ft Kerplunk wrote:
Coppells Lost Coat wrote:Do think he shapes up wrong when balls get flown in at the box, he also loses concentration on his positioning a lil too often too. Should be easy to coach him out of those though.

If he was 18 I'd agree with you. But he's 25, it should already have been sorted by now. I think he's a decent player but this may well be his level.



He might be 25, but he wasted a large part of his career at Liverpool. Reading are the first club to give him a proper run and I think he's growing and learning all the time. Would certainly keep hold of him, unless the money was too good.


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Re: Tiago llori

by From Despair To Where? » 16 Jan 2019 12:18

Hound wrote:I expect that Ilori is very much central to Gomes plans. If he is happy enough to stay he will, if he really wants to go to SL, then he probably will go there.


I think that's the key. At this stage of his career, he'll want regular starts, not the occasional 20 minutes off the bench. I think he'll stay and see where we are in the summer.

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Re: Tiago llori

by Sutekh » 19 Jan 2019 14:34

Rumblings that this is now a done deal and Ilori will go to Sporting Lisbon but not until Reading have a replacement.

Therefore presume Reading will be looking for a pacey ball playing centre half from somewhere.

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Re: Tiago llori

by leon » 19 Jan 2019 17:10

Sutekh wrote:Rumblings that this is now a done deal and Ilori will go to Sporting Lisbon but not until Reading have a replacement.

Therefore presume Reading will be looking for a pacey ball playing centre half from somewhere.


Or play Rinomhota there :roll:

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Re: Tiago llori

by sandman » 19 Jan 2019 18:27

Sutekh wrote:Rumblings that this is now a done deal and Ilori will go to Sporting Lisbon but not until Reading have a replacement.

Therefore presume Reading will be looking for a pacey ball playing centre half from somewhere.


And hopefully one that isn't a complete lackadaisical liability.

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