by From Despair To Where? » 11 Nov 2024 08:12
by katweslowski » 11 Nov 2024 08:25
From Despair To Where? Can people please stop referring to other clubs as "tinpot". It's ignorant, embarrassing and disrespectful.
by Clyde1998 » 11 Nov 2024 08:39
katweslowskiFrom Despair To Where? Can people please stop referring to other clubs as "tinpot". It's ignorant, embarrassing and disrespectful.
Came here to say this. From Reading fans it's ridiculous and we should know better.
Especially as we're still scrambling around iwth 10,000 fans at a home game in League One whilst some of our fans talk about how "massive" we are. Whilst Wrexham, Huddersfield and many others are getting more fans than us.
by WestYorksRoyal » 11 Nov 2024 09:16
by From Despair To Where? » 11 Nov 2024 09:45
by Sutekh » 11 Nov 2024 09:47
Clyde1998katweslowskiFrom Despair To Where? Can people please stop referring to other clubs as "tinpot". It's ignorant, embarrassing and disrespectful.
Came here to say this. From Reading fans it's ridiculous and we should know better.
Especially as we're still scrambling around iwth 10,000 fans at a home game in League One whilst some of our fans talk about how "massive" we are. Whilst Wrexham, Huddersfield and many others are getting more fans than us.
Agreed. We're "massive" in the sense that we've been in the Championship for most of the past thirty years or so. Our fan base isn't massively largely than most clubs in League One, it's just Stevenage are relatively new to the Football League and haven't built up a big fanbase yet.
In our last few Championship seasons, we had a below average home attendance. We've certainly grown as a club in the past thirty-odd years, but we're still probably an fairly average Championship side in terms of fanbase (possibly lower).
by Hendo » 11 Nov 2024 10:02
From Despair To Where? Calling anyone tinpot is bullshit, in my opinion. Different clubs have different trajectories and just because your club only averages 4,000 or play in a 6,000 capacity stadium, doesn't mean the fans care less about their club.
by From Despair To Where? » 11 Nov 2024 10:26
HendoFrom Despair To Where? Calling anyone tinpot is bullshit, in my opinion. Different clubs have different trajectories and just because your club only averages 4,000 or play in a 6,000 capacity stadium, doesn't mean the fans care less about their club.
MK:Dons?
by Hendo » 11 Nov 2024 10:30
by WestYorksRoyal » 11 Nov 2024 10:37
by From Despair To Where? » 11 Nov 2024 11:12
WestYorksRoyal As a thought experiment with MK Dons, I often wonder if they could have achieved more had the owners with the bright idea done everything organically. Started a club at the bottom and pushed them through the leagues at AFC Wimbledon ultimately did. It would create more of an identity as Milton Keynes' club.
As it is, the club is tainted and it holds them back in a place as populated as MK. It will take >50 years for people to forget how they came into existence, and true football fans in the area may well default to supporting a north London club or Watford/Luton.
Put it this way, if I had kids around where I currently live I'd give them a day out to see Bradford or Huddersfield (not Leeds). If I lived around Milton Keynes, there's no way I'd take them to see MK Dons.
by Hound » 11 Nov 2024 11:13
by From Despair To Where? » 11 Nov 2024 11:17
by Sutekh » 11 Nov 2024 11:55
Hound Agreed, the whole thing was a PR disaster. No doubts they had a non league MK club who they could have built up. It’s a big catchment area and they’d have had some goodwill rather than everyone hating them
Also agreed re:tinpot . Pointless insult - actually more fun being tin pot imo and mixing it with the ‘big boys’
by Dirk Gently » 11 Nov 2024 13:51
WestYorksRoyal As a thought experiment with MK Dons, I often wonder if they could have achieved more had the owners with the bright idea done everything organically. Started a club at the bottom and pushed them through the leagues at AFC Wimbledon ultimately did. It would create more of an identity as Milton Keynes' club.
As it is, the club is tainted and it holds them back in a place as populated as MK. It will take >50 years for people to forget how they came into existence, and true football fans in the area may well default to supporting a north London club or Watford/Luton.
Put it this way, if I had kids around where I currently live I'd give them a day out to see Bradford or Huddersfield (not Leeds). If I lived around Milton Keynes, there's no way I'd take them to see MK Dons.
by bcubed » 11 Nov 2024 18:17
Dirk GentlyWestYorksRoyal As a thought experiment with MK Dons, I often wonder if they could have achieved more had the owners with the bright idea done everything organically. Started a club at the bottom and pushed them through the leagues at AFC Wimbledon ultimately did. It would create more of an identity as Milton Keynes' club.
As it is, the club is tainted and it holds them back in a place as populated as MK. It will take >50 years for people to forget how they came into existence, and true football fans in the area may well default to supporting a north London club or Watford/Luton.
Put it this way, if I had kids around where I currently live I'd give them a day out to see Bradford or Huddersfield (not Leeds). If I lived around Milton Keynes, there's no way I'd take them to see MK Dons.
But they'd never have done that. The overall aim of the project wasn't to get league football there - that was just what was needed to provide an "enabling development" under planning rules at the time to get a retail park built. The whole thing was about property, not football.
by dontbedaft » 11 Nov 2024 18:44
Odd fact, that I don't shout about. Winkelman went to the same hairdresser as me....
by bcubed » 11 Nov 2024 20:27
dontbedaftOdd fact, that I don't shout about. Winkelman went to the same hairdresser as me....
So that's why you never had a profile pic on your excellent website
by The Cube » 11 Nov 2024 21:30
by stealthpapes » 12 Nov 2024 10:07
From Despair To Where?WestYorksRoyal As a thought experiment with MK Dons, I often wonder if they could have achieved more had the owners with the bright idea done everything organically. Started a club at the bottom and pushed them through the leagues at AFC Wimbledon ultimately did. It would create more of an identity as Milton Keynes' club.
As it is, the club is tainted and it holds them back in a place as populated as MK. It will take >50 years for people to forget how they came into existence, and true football fans in the area may well default to supporting a north London club or Watford/Luton.
Put it this way, if I had kids around where I currently live I'd give them a day out to see Bradford or Huddersfield (not Leeds). If I lived around Milton Keynes, there's no way I'd take them to see MK Dons.
There's a lot of Burnley fans in Keighley.
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