HNA approval/disapproval of NA

[mambo3]

And who are the magnificent squad members that aren't getting a look in?[/quote]

Each of the following can are comfortable to work the NA game of passing and possession and technically more gifted.

Samuel
Taylor
Tanner
Gozie
Tishbola[/quote]

Big difference between playing in U21 games and holding your own in the Championship. You say they are better suited to the NA game but clearly the manager feels they aren't yet ready for the first team.[/quote]

You are right! But who's to say that the contracts some 1st Teamers have guarantees them to play 1st Team football whilst
They are fit. To the detriment of the U21 players and maybe that is why they don't play.

[Ouroboros]

Shut up you tart.

If you don't have any anything useful to contribute, don't type anything at all.

If only you'd followed your own advice.

[under the tin]

Anyone with half a brain who listened to Adkins' post match interview tonight would realise just how stupid and absolutely wrong your remarks are.

'Not the type of manager we need or want' ? He is absolutely the type of manager we need. Unlike some of our stupid fans, he realises that it is no good getting promoted to the PL playing Championship 'energy/percentage football' and then trying to adapt when you are there. The PL is far too unforgiving for that and you are simply not given the time and opportunities to change your players and style when you get there. That is the reason McDermott and his squad failed so dramatically last season.

That being the case, you have to change to PL style posession football whilst you are in the Championship and get promoted playing that way. That is what Adkins is trying to do but it isn't a quick process and his task hasn't been made any easier by the squad and preferred playing style of some of the players he inherited. He isn't wanted by some of our fans and the connection with them is missing because they are the greedy and spoilt 21st Century want it now type who fail to realise that you have to work hard to achieve somethings and reward/success doesn't always come over night.

If we stick with Adkins (and Madejski manages to sort out the mess created by his first attempt to sell the club) we will get promoted but it may not be this season or possibly even next. However, when we do get promoted, we will do so in a highly enjoyable and entertaining way and will have a fantastic and very realistic chance of remaining in the PL far longer than we have on the previous two occasions.

Will our owner(s), Chairman, Board and supporters have the patience and nerve required to ensure that this happens or will we end up knee jerking and firing the very manager that we do need?

For the first time Adkins tried to explain what he is trying to do. Only problem with that is it aint working. How long do we wait for that as at the moment we haven't got many players that are suited to his preferred style. It will mean changing most of the team. Meanwhile the performances have deteriorated and the enjoyment of watching has ebbed away. So we will need a new owner with loads of cash but if that doesn't happen support will dwindle and we will become a very average champ. side with a 12000 following. Cant see how the present team will suddenly get the system and start playing good football if after 30 or so games it hasn't been able to.[/quote]
"Changing most of the team" is an overstatement.
The very reason why many teams find Reading predictable, and easy to dispossess is because of the shortcomings in a critical area.
Adkins wants it played out from the back, and when pressurised by the opposition, our defence and goalkeeper are neither techically adept nor composed enough to be able to deal with it.
There is an old truism "play to your strengths"(one of McDermott's greatest gifts) : but the Adkins style stands this on its head. Opposition managers are sussing out that if you press Reading back, then you're likely to get cheap possession.

I think old Nigel has a looming dilemma.
Does he continue to publicly expose these players technical shortcomings on the pitch whilst they incur the wrath of the watching crowd (as yesterday), does he go shopping for a Baresi-esque central defender or two in January (subject to funds being made available), or does he scrap his principles on the high altar of gaining results?

FWIW, I think if we had a Keith Curle/Dariusz Wdowczyk central defence, we'd be fine.

[Bandini]

OP has this spot on. It seems that Adkins isn't even trying to win these days - it's more important for Atkins to maintain his "brand" of passing football than to get results now.

Good for him (maybe) but bad for the club.

[AirRaidSiren]

No manager is instantly the right 'type'. People bitched about Coppell for not showing enough passion, questioned Pardew and please explain what McGhee's connections with Reading were before he took over as manager? Why don't all you morons quieten down and let the grown ups do their jobs.

[sandman]

Granted that the title is badly worded, but to put it simply; Nigel Adkins and the Reading fans will just never get along. He isn't the type of manager we need, or want, and the connection between the fans, most of the playing staff, and Nigel himself just isn't there.

The ownership situation doesn't help, but the feeling around the club is one of negativity, and explains why so many people have chosen to boycott the Adkins Revolution.

Anyone with half a brain who listened to Adkins' post match interview tonight would realise just how stupid and absolutely wrong your remarks are.

'Not the type of manager we need or want' ? He is absolutely the type of manager we need. Unlike some of our stupid fans, he realises that it is no good getting promoted to the PL playing Championship 'energy/percentage football' and then trying to adapt when you are there. The PL is far too unforgiving for that and you are simply not given the time and opportunities to change your players and style when you get there. That is the reason McDermott and his squad failed so dramatically last season.

That being the case, you have to change to PL style posession football whilst you are in the Championship and get promoted playing that way. That is what Adkins is trying to do but it isn't a quick process and his task hasn't been made any easier by the squad and preferred playing style of some of the players he inherited. He isn't wanted by some of our fans and the connection with them is missing because they are the greedy and spoilt 21st Century want it now type who fail to realise that you have to work hard to achieve somethings and reward/success doesn't always come over night.

If we stick with Adkins (and Madejski manages to sort out the mess created by his first attempt to sell the club) we will get promoted but it may not be this season or possibly even next. However, when we do get promoted, we will do so in a highly enjoyable and entertaining way and will have a fantastic and very realistic chance of remaining in the PL far longer than we have on the previous two occasions.

Will our owner(s), Chairman, Board and supporters have the patience and nerve required to ensure that this happens or will we end up knee jerking and firing the very manager that we do need?

"Do you know how many rules there are in football? There are 17 rules. That's it. Everyone talks about football and nobody remembers this simple fact." - Alfredo Di Stefano.

Football is a simple game complicated by people who think they are smarter than they really are.

You've got to get to the PL first! Then you actually spend the money you're given to buy quality players and you can play however you bloody well like, see City, Stoke.

The Championship is not a forgiving league and if you plan solely for the Premier League then you're in for a nasty surprise and are going to get found out very quickly, as we're seeing now.

[semtex1871]

Most Reading fans just don't like change, that's why most continually want the old players to come back so it can be like it always was, it was what they knew.

These are the same people who are born in Reading, have never moved out of Reading, have always worked in Reading......they don't like change.....

Get a grip you 'tards.....

Says the fascist.

RattLOLed

[Avon Royal]

The Championship is not a forgiving league and if you plan solely for the Premier League then you're in for a nasty surprise and are going to get found out very quickly, as we're seeing now.

That will be why we're in a relegation scrap then.

[PistolPete]

Brenden Rodgers tried to get Reading to play football, he knew it would take time, the mongs wanted him out, said he had a bumper book of tactics... Rodgers is now top of the league with Liverpool.

The problem with English football, why Germany have been able to progress and we can't, is that people want two things 1)Immediate success 2) comfort of the familiar.

If we can afford to stay down a season with Adkins it will probably be good for us long term. Just. oxf*rd. Relax.

[paddy20]

Brenden Rodgers tried to get Reading to play football, he knew it would take time, the mongs wanted him out, said he had a bumper book of tactics... Rodgers is now top of the league with Liverpool.

The problem with English football, why Germany have been able to progress and we can't, is that people want two things 1)Immediate success 2) comfort of the familiar.

If we can afford to stay down a season with Adkins it will probably be good for us long term. Just. oxf*rd. Relax.

Or fans want a bit of entertainment and excitement. I think our squad is good enough to have got auto promotion had we played our fast tempo game. It seems this idea of playing possession football is a bit idealistic. We know this team wouldn't cope in the premiership so why spend the time trying to perfect a system when most of the players would change anyway. It was interesting yesterday how the crowd and performance lifted when we said forget the system and just attack. Had we played that way at the start we would not have lost.Surely the realist says lets get promoted the way we know how and worry about systems when we get back to the premiership. I would rather be a yo yo club picking up all the parachute payments on the way than a mid table team playing dull unexciting football in the championship. History shows that most relegated teams fail in the championship if they try t0 play the same way as in the prem.

[Once were Biscuitmen]

Brenden Rodgers tried to get Reading to play football, he knew it would take time, the mongs wanted him out, said he had a bumper book of tactics... Rodgers is now top of the league with Liverpool.

The problem with English football, why Germany have been able to progress and we can't, is that people want two things 1)Immediate success 2) comfort of the familiar.

If we can afford to stay down a season with Adkins it will probably be good for us long term. Just. oxf*rd. Relax.

The important distinction being Nigel has us in the play-offs and Brenda would have relegated us.

[Pepe the Horseman]

People really didn't take to Coppell straight away, no matter how they choose to remember it. He was getting slated for his lack of passion, and we had some awful performances and results. He eventually came good and the rest is history, but it took a while for us to warm to him.

[sandman]

Coppell may have struggled at first but he was never as unlikeable as this man.

Coppell was at least honest when a performance wasn't good enough, we're talking about a man who offered to resign because his team wasn't performing.

Coppell didn't sit down in what is supposed to be an interview and proceed to ramble on a long monologue in order to basically stop the interviewer being able to ask him any questions.

Coppell was, for the most part, consistent in his decisions.

Coppell didn't change the formation every five minutes.

Coppell rarely changed a winning team.

[AirRaidSiren]

Coppell may have struggled at first but he was never as unlikeable as this man.

Unlikeable? What? So you and a few bell ends on an internet forum represent the entire Reading FC fan base? I do not know one person or Reading fan who dislikes him. It's all in your mind. It's what you want, not a fact.

[Zana Badawi]

Brenden Rodgers tried to get Reading to play football, he knew it would take time, the mongs wanted him out, said he had a bumper book of tactics... Rodgers is now top of the league with Liverpool.

The problem with English football, why Germany have been able to progress and we can't, is that people want two things 1)Immediate success 2) comfort of the familiar.

If we can afford to stay down a season with Adkins it will probably be good for us long term. Just. oxf*rd. Relax.

Are the Brendan 'mongs' the same people as the Adkins 'mongs' though?
The reasons for their unpopularity, IIRC, were different and neither was to do with "1)Immediate success". "2) comfort of the familiar" is also wrong for Rodgers as the fanbase was generally very excited when he started.

[P!ssed Off]

Coppell may have struggled at first but he was never as unlikeable as this man.

Unlikeable? What? So you and a few bell ends on an internet forum represent the entire Reading FC fan base? I do not know one person or Reading fan who dislikes him. It's all in your mind. It's what you want, not a fact.

Majority of people near me at the games seem to dislike him with a passion. One guy said to me "the guy is a complefe joke" yesterday. But maybe I just imagined this conversation.
Every substitution is met with total contempt for the manager.
Prepare for the worst, we are not that many losses away from a huge reaction against the manager.

[Arnie_Pie]

Majority of people near me at the games seem to dislike him with a passion. One guy said to me "the guy is a complefe joke" yesterday. But maybe I just imagined this conversation.
Every substitution is met with total contempt for the manager.

That is because most Readings fans are utter idiots.

[Once were Biscuitmen]

Yes but this is Reading a, 'huge reaction' equates to some mild motivational booing and a moany text to BBC radio Berkshire.

[howser]

I will be very much in the minority here, I thought that Rodgers was the "right man", we have all seen, given the tools, how well he has progressed since he got booted, wrongly in my opinion. Similarly Adkins has got a pretty impressive record, but, we are all aware that all things are not good behind the scenes at Reading, thats not rocket science to see that, so we don't know what limitations and restrictions that he is presently working under.

Clearly the present crop of players arnt good enough to play the way he wants, we all heard the summer boasts from Zingaravich and Adkins about the number of players we were looking to get in, ones that can adapt to Adkins style, and we have all seen what fruitless comments they turned out to be.

Of course as well as being compared to a likeness with Rodgers, the other problem that Adkins has is that he had the nerve to take over from McDermott, whose spirit hangs like a cancer over anything that Adkins does, with non stop comparisons from the "hobnob McDermott love children" when things don't go right.

Just maybe its the time now to accept that no one is going to get on their knees and beg forgivness from McDermott for sacking him after creating one of the worst sides seen in the premiership for many years,and plead with him to come and save our ailing club, he has gone, its done, now just get behind Adkins and give the team some support in what are proving to be very difficult times both on and off the pitch.

[AirRaidSiren]

Coppell may have struggled at first but he was never as unlikeable as this man.

Unlikeable? What? So you and a few bell ends on an internet forum represent the entire Reading FC fan base? I do not know one person or Reading fan who dislikes him. It's all in your mind. It's what you want, not a fact.

Majority of people near me at the games seem to dislike him with a passion. One guy said to me "the guy is a complefe joke" yesterday. But maybe I just imagined this conversation.
Every substitution is met with total contempt for the manager.
Prepare for the worst, we are not that many losses away from a huge reaction against the manager.

The games I've been to I heard nothing derogatory towards Adkins, more towards the players and Anton. All my friends or people I know are being patient with the new way and manager, and many of them are Saints fans who have nothing but good words to say about him.

Forget this season, allow Adkins time, like the Leicester fans allowed Pearson time, it's taken him 2 seasons to get his team playing his way. Our fans should be as patient, but the few are not willing to give him any time at all.

I had tickets for yesterday but didn't go, only due to not wanting my young children to be soaked and cold. I'm glad I never went! It's frustrating hearing fans boo at this stage of the season and I hope what you say, about there being a huge reaction towards Adkins, will not happen.