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Re: Confimred new owners of Reading Football Club

by Vision » 31 Jul 2014 11:04

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LOL- its business. anyone who wants to buy it will want to make something out of it. :roll:

half the people flapping about it now are the same people who were on at SJM for years for not wanting to throw all his money down the RFC drain

cant have it both ways


Actually you can, if you can find yourself a Dave Whelan type. Unfortunately it looks like we can't.

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when you say dave whelan type

you basically mean dave whelan.
or the saints bloke who died.
or the blackburn bloke who died


these rich idiots/rich dead people willing to donate huge piles of cash arent exactly ten a penny.


Not as if Whelan hasn't benefitted from being in charge in much the same way as JM either. Didn't he own JJB when the stadium bore that name and once he sold it then it became the DW. Can't think what that refers to. Not to mention pontifcating publicly (well sky sports news) on every football topic known to man. Also a bit like Walker before him, I stand to be corrected but I'm not entirely sure there's much forward thinking in terms of infrastructure and what will happen once he's gone. Don't get me wrong he's done absolute wonders for Wigan who were lower down the food chain than us when he took them over but it hasn't come without benefit to him and he's gained in many ways the same way JM's critics have a pop at him for.

I'm still not sure what the deal was with the Saint's bloke.

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Re: Buyout

by Pepe the Horseman » 31 Jul 2014 11:08

My thoughts exactly brendy xx

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Re: Confimred new owners of Reading Football Club

by maffff » 31 Jul 2014 11:21

Vision Didn't he own JJB when the stadium bore that name and once he sold it then it became the DW.

Dirty Wigan, ain't it?

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Re: Confimred new owners of Reading Football Club

by melonhead » 31 Jul 2014 11:27

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Nameless The other massive problem with putting a shopping mall on any part of the car park is that the busiest time for shopping is Saturday, which is when the stadium is in use for 40 weeks of the year. Access is already an issue and not easy to improve.

Again, not unsolveable but with plenty of other land that wouldn't have that problem why pay over the odds to build on a contaminated car park ?



not shopping mall then

supercasino, and a few bars/restaurants


Council have already rejected the supercasino plans for next door to the stadium though.


damn you!!!!

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Re: Confimred new owners of Reading Football Club

by Vic_Flange » 31 Jul 2014 11:35

The new owners are the Chuckle Brothers. ItsThe Times today; Page 42.


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Re: Confimred new owners of Reading Football Club

by SPARTA » 31 Jul 2014 12:01

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wingnut STAR could apply to make the stadium a "community asset" which would put paid to development of the site for a while (can't remember how long though and this wouldn't cover the car park or training grounds). The entity applying for community asset st8us doesn't have to own the land.


Six months.

That's six months to come up with the money and put in a rival bid.
http://mycommunityrights.org.uk/community-right-to-bid/
Unlikely to happen.


I put that to STAR several months ago and was told it was something they were looking at. Then the said they were confident everything was OK at the club...

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Re: Confimred new owners of Reading Football Club

by Royal Rother » 31 Jul 2014 12:40

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Not as if Whelan hasn't benefitted from being in charge in much the same way as JM either. Didn't he own JJB when the stadium bore that name and once he sold it then it became the DW. Can't think what that refers to. Not to mention pontifcating publicly (well sky sports news) on every football topic known to man. Also a bit like Walker before him, I stand to be corrected but I'm not entirely sure there's much forward thinking in terms of infrastructure and what will happen once he's gone. Don't get me wrong he's done absolute wonders for Wigan who were lower down the food chain than us when he took them over but it hasn't come without benefit to him and he's gained in many ways the same way JM's critics have a pop at him for.

I'm still not sure what the deal was with the Saint's bloke.


Bet RoyalBlue loves him.

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Re: Confimred new owners of Reading Football Club

by Pseud O'Nym » 31 Jul 2014 12:42

There were provisions in the original planning consent to prevent development of the car park.

Some Government Bloke The high cost of development and the requirement from the Council that it should be a community anchored site* meant that the project would need a number of other elements apart from the stadium itself.

The football club’s community role was fulfilled by:

The large car park acting as part of Reading’s park-and-ride scheme when not required for parking during football and rugby matches.

The community use of the club’s on-site training facilities.

* Community anchored site – For some sites, councils will only grant planning permission if a community use is incorporated in the plans. This may involve facilities for the young or the elderly or the provision of public open space.

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Re: Buyout

by Extended-Phenotype » 31 Jul 2014 13:06

Better start thinking about what players we may need in 2018. Give us enough time to complete the f/cking payment.


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Re: Buyout

by JIM » 31 Jul 2014 13:09

days getting shorter, so is our transfer window , down to 32 and counting, come on FL :( :(

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Re: Confimred new owners of Reading Football Club

by PieEater » 31 Jul 2014 13:11

IIRC the hill the Mad stad is built on is mostly rubbish, with various vents around the site to let the methane out.

Recent planning changes mean that you cannot develop housing on landfill directly, you first need to do re-mediation (dig out the rubbish and process it). That would pretty well stop any housing development

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Re: Buyout

by MouldyRoyal » 31 Jul 2014 14:07

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The broker for the Thai consortium’s £26m bid, meanwhile, is Pairoj Piempongsant, the football fixer who set up the 2007 acquisition of Manchester City by Thailand’s exiled former prime minister, Thaksin Shinawatra.

The very same Thaksin Shinawatra, Diary notes, who found guilty of corruption by the Thai Supreme Court in 2008. Game on.


:|


Pairoj Piempongsant set up the sale to Sheikh Mansour.

That seems to have worked out ok for City.

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Re: Confimred new owners of Reading Football Club

by RoyalBlue » 31 Jul 2014 14:14

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Not as if Whelan hasn't benefitted from being in charge in much the same way as JM either. Didn't he own JJB when the stadium bore that name and once he sold it then it became the DW. Can't think what that refers to. Not to mention pontifcating publicly (well sky sports news) on every football topic known to man. Also a bit like Walker before him, I stand to be corrected but I'm not entirely sure there's much forward thinking in terms of infrastructure and what will happen once he's gone. Don't get me wrong he's done absolute wonders for Wigan who were lower down the food chain than us when he took them over but it hasn't come without benefit to him and he's gained in many ways the same way JM's critics have a pop at him for.



Big difference being that Whelan appears to have given/paid far more for that 'fame' (his name was more known in the locality in the first place), did it primarily because he had a link to and affection for the club (a la Smee) and, as far as I'm aware, didn't come out with all the false modesty crap i.e. 'it wasn't my idea to name the stadium after me'. His first use of the stadium name was for the purposes of promoting his business, rather than his name. I also suspect his media appearances are more likely to be for mercenary than self-publicity purposes.

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Are you sure? You can cram an awful lot of housing onto that site. How much extra work would have to be conducted that wouldn't be required for commercial property. And, as Strap says, planning permission for housing is virtually guaranteed.


Not necessarily true. Yes, there is a long record of central government overturning local planning refusals but I think it is highly probable that even at that level a plan to destroy the stadium would be rejected. What could be feasible is to seek permission to use some of the car parking space for housing or commercial development and I can see that getting through as it is space that could be seen to be wasted at the moment (it only gets used every couple of weeks). If it is to be a commercial development then some of the car parking would have to stay ( or maybe a multi-storey one built instead) so that visitors to the site could bring a car!

However, as has been pointed out elsewhere, John Madejski is a property developer in his own right. If there was serious value to be had from this land he probably would have exploited it by now. Nigel Howe is employed by JM for his property skills not his knowledge of football.


Other than for the fact that Madejski seems to have already blown a lot of his cash on other property developments that went wrong. Added to which, after all of the work he has undertaken to be the man of Reading (the town) and the saviour of RFC, he would probably find it quite difficult to undertake a property development at the expense of RFC without incurring the risk of falling out of favour and being run out of town.


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Re: Confimred new owners of Reading Football Club

by Wimb » 31 Jul 2014 14:36

I don't think I'll ever understand your hatred for SJM RB :|

Regardless of his motives he's helped take the club to heights barely imaginable when he took over, as far as I'm concerned he can have all the press and kudos he wants from others, it's not as if it directly impacts on our own daily lives. What has had an impact is the (mostly) awesome period of success we've had during his tenure.

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Re: Confimred new owners of Reading Football Club

by melonhead » 31 Jul 2014 14:38

agreed. its a small thing he gains for a massive load of time and money he put in

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Re: Buyout

by yuomi » 31 Jul 2014 14:46

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The broker for the Thai consortium’s £26m bid, meanwhile, is Pairoj Piempongsant, the football fixer who set up the 2007 acquisition of Manchester City by Thailand’s exiled former prime minister, Thaksin Shinawatra.

The very same Thaksin Shinawatra, Diary notes, who found guilty of corruption by the Thai Supreme Court in 2008. Game on.


:|


Pairoj Piempongsant set up the sale to Sheikh Mansour.

That seems to have worked out ok for City.




That's only because he is/was Thaksin's man at Citeh. He would've brokered the deal to whoever came along to buy them out. That deal also had more than a little bit of Kia Jooorabchian involvement too and if he has anything to do with this then I'm out.

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Re: Buyout

by maffff » 31 Jul 2014 15:27

yuomi That deal also had more than a little bit of Kia Jooorabchian involvement too and if he has anything to do with this then I'm out.


Fourth investor......

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Re: Buyout

by Nameless » 31 Jul 2014 15:30

JIM days getting shorter, so is our transfer window , down to 32 and counting, come on FL :( :(


Stop counting, we can get players up until December....

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Re: Confimred new owners of Reading Football Club

by Extended-Phenotype » 31 Jul 2014 15:59

Wimb I don't think I'll ever understand your hatred for SJM RB :|

Regardless of his motives he's helped take the club to blah blah blah blah blahblah blah


Oh GOD we know. Shoot a funny look towards SJM and you get some chode reeling off the opening 12 chapters of John Madejski: My Boring Story.

Take it for granted from this point on that EVERYONE is well aware of Wot Jon Did when they make any sort of criticism. Save yourself the trouble of duplicating the same post for the million billionth time.
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Re: Confimred new owners of Reading Football Club

by Ian Royal » 31 Jul 2014 15:59

There really are few chairman out there who've done more for their club.

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