from disaster to disaster

[Pseud O'Nym]

It seems we have decided to also get rid of one of our best ever goalkeepers and replace him with a keeper that never commands his box just because he seems to be in Adkins good books.

You mean the manager is picking the team?!?!

TOTFP!

[LoyalRoyal22]

I was fully behind Adkins, and still am, but i have lost some faith knowing Cox was his signing. True, he was a squad player in a team that finished below us last season, the very best he can do for us is be the same. Terrible upfront on his own. In our first 11 for those that think he would start are seriously deluded, HRK is twice the player even when he plays at 50%( which is quite often).

Ferdinand, obviously an ownership signing, but one our fans have tried to convince themselves might work out. If we spend money on a quality CB that we are lacking, Ferdinand will just be a pointless squad player.

Happy with Mackie, not gifted, but gives us another option and if he lacks in quality he will really put a shift in. Norwood a sensible signing, good transfer fee, good age, comfortable on the ball etc etc

We are crying out for a quality CB & LB (would be happy with one). And a striker we can replace Pog with, ideally someone with pace. Without these players we are probably looking at a league finish of between 12-6.

Promising points, Kuhl looks awesome, put him in a proper midfield with Guthrie/Williams etc and he should shine. Also Tanner looks ready to be a squad player.

[Ian Royal]

I was fully behind Adkins, and still am, but i have lost some faith knowing Cox was his signing. True, he was a squad player in a team that finished below us last season, the very best he can do for us is be the same. Terrible upfront on his own. In our first 11 for those that think he would start are seriously deluded, HRK is twice the player even when he plays at 50%( which is quite often).

Ferdinand, obviously an ownership signing, but one our fans have tried to convince themselves might work out. If we spend money on a quality CB that we are lacking, Ferdinand will just be a pointless squad player.

Happy with Mackie, not gifted, but gives us another option and if he lacks in quality he will really put a shift in. Norwood a sensible signing, good transfer fee, good age, comfortable on the ball etc etc

We are crying out for a quality CB & LB (would be happy with one). And a striker we can replace Pog with, ideally someone with pace. Without these players we are probably looking at a league finish of between 12-6.

Promising points, Kuhl looks awesome, put him in a proper midfield with Guthrie/Williams etc and he should shine. Also Tanner looks ready to be a squad player.

12th to 6th. Awesome!

Even 12th to 16th is absolutely fine, ta.

[LoyalRoyal22]

I was fully behind Adkins, and still am, but i have lost some faith knowing Cox was his signing. True, he was a squad player in a team that finished below us last season, the very best he can do for us is be the same. Terrible upfront on his own. In our first 11 for those that think he would start are seriously deluded, HRK is twice the player even when he plays at 50%( which is quite often).

Ferdinand, obviously an ownership signing, but one our fans have tried to convince themselves might work out. If we spend money on a quality CB that we are lacking, Ferdinand will just be a pointless squad player.

Happy with Mackie, not gifted, but gives us another option and if he lacks in quality he will really put a shift in. Norwood a sensible signing, good transfer fee, good age, comfortable on the ball etc etc

We are crying out for a quality CB & LB (would be happy with one). And a striker we can replace Pog with, ideally someone with pace. Without these players we are probably looking at a league finish of between 12-6.

Promising points, Kuhl looks awesome, put him in a proper midfield with Guthrie/Williams etc and he should shine. Also Tanner looks ready to be a squad player.

12th to 6th. Awesome!

Even 12th to 16th is absolutely fine, ta.

And then lose our 5/6 out of contract players next summer and potentially be in the relegation shake up? Enjoy

You have convinced yourself you would be happy with a bottom half finish , you must be such a positive happy guy.

[MmmMonsterMunch]

Adkins has probably had to go for quantity over quality in this window I'm afraid.

It is what it is.

[mambo3]

Adkins has probably had to go for quantity over quality in this window I'm afraid.

It is what it is.

Atkins prefers grafters to quality that's obvious.

[leon]

I'm not an Adkins fan but it's fairly obvious that he's brought in experience to counter balance the youth he's introducing. And that's fair enough.

[MmmMonsterMunch]

Adkins has probably had to go for quantity over quality in this window I'm afraid.

It is what it is.

Atkins prefers grafters to quality that's obvious.

Yes because there's oodles of quality languishing in the English leagues with low wages & no transfer fees. Come on - what business has he really been able to do?!

[Ian Royal]

I was fully behind Adkins, and still am, but i have lost some faith knowing Cox was his signing. True, he was a squad player in a team that finished below us last season, the very best he can do for us is be the same. Terrible upfront on his own. In our first 11 for those that think he would start are seriously deluded, HRK is twice the player even when he plays at 50%( which is quite often).

Ferdinand, obviously an ownership signing, but one our fans have tried to convince themselves might work out. If we spend money on a quality CB that we are lacking, Ferdinand will just be a pointless squad player.

Happy with Mackie, not gifted, but gives us another option and if he lacks in quality he will really put a shift in. Norwood a sensible signing, good transfer fee, good age, comfortable on the ball etc etc

We are crying out for a quality CB & LB (would be happy with one). And a striker we can replace Pog with, ideally someone with pace. Without these players we are probably looking at a league finish of between 12-6.

Promising points, Kuhl looks awesome, put him in a proper midfield with Guthrie/Williams etc and he should shine. Also Tanner looks ready to be a squad player.

12th to 6th. Awesome!

Even 12th to 16th is absolutely fine, ta.

And then lose our 5/6 out of contract players next summer and potentially be in the relegation shake up? Enjoy

You have convinced yourself you would be happy with a bottom half finish , you must be such a positive happy guy.

Short-term, yes I absolutely would. I don't think we'd lose that many key players. And we'd have a lot of much more experienced young players.

I'll take enjoying the season over constantly moaning about it thanks. It says more about you than me, that you'd think that would be a negative.

[Simon's Church]

I was fully behind Adkins, and still am, but i have lost some faith knowing Cox was his signing. True, he was a squad player in a team that finished below us last season. HRK is twice the player even when he plays at 50%( which is quite often).

[mambo3]

Adkins has probably had to go for quantity over quality in this window I'm afraid.

It is what it is.

Atkins prefers grafters to quality that's obvious.

Yes because there's oodles of quality languishing in the English leagues with low wages & no transfer fees. Come on - what business has he really been able to do?!

If that's the case then NA is not working hard enough to find them. By the way I think, I maybe wrong but we pay high wages
Ask pog and drenthe

[LoyalRoyal22]

Ian. It's the fact that we are only 2 good signings short of competing for promotion which frustrates me.

[MmmMonsterMunch]

FYI....when we won the league in 2012 this was our position at roughly the same date (in fact we'd played one more game):

Table on 27.08.2011 Full Home Away
P W D L F A W D L F A W D L F A GD Pt
1 Brighton and Hove A 5 4 1 0 10 4 2 1 0 6 3 2 0 0 4 1 +6 13
2 Southampton 5 4 0 1 12 6 2 0 0 4 1 2 0 1 8 5 +6 12
3 Derby County 5 4 0 1 8 3 2 0 1 6 3 2 0 0 2 0 +5 12
4 Middlesbrough 5 3 2 0 10 5 1 2 0 6 4 2 0 0 4 1 +5 11
5 Crystal Palace 5 3 1 1 7 4 2 1 0 5 2 1 0 1 2 2 +3 10
6 Cardiff City 5 2 2 1 7 6 1 0 1 4 4 1 2 0 3 2 +1 8
7 Blackpool 5 2 2 1 6 5 1 0 1 2 2 1 2 0 4 3 +1 8
8 Peterborough United 5 2 1 2 12 8 2 0 0 9 2 0 1 2 3 6 +4 7
9 West Ham United 4 2 1 1 7 3 0 1 1 2 3 2 0 0 5 0 +4 7
10 Leicester City 5 2 1 2 7 8 1 0 2 4 6 1 1 0 3 2 -1 7
11 Millwall 5 1 3 1 6 5 1 2 0 4 2 0 1 1 2 3 +1 6
12 Portsmouth 5 1 3 1 4 4 1 1 1 2 2 0 2 0 2 2 0 6
13 Hull City 5 2 0 3 3 6 1 0 2 1 2 1 0 1 2 4 -3 6
14 Ipswich Town 5 2 0 3 8 14 1 0 2 4 7 1 0 1 4 7 -6 6
15 Burnley 4 1 2 1 5 6 0 2 0 3 3 1 0 1 2 3 -1 5
16 Nottingham Forest 4 1 2 1 3 4 0 2 0 2 2 1 0 1 1 2 -1 5
17 Barnsley 5 1 2 2 3 5 0 0 2 1 4 1 2 0 2 1 -2 5
18 Bristol City 5 1 2 2 4 8 0 1 1 0 3 1 1 1 4 5 -4 5
19 Leeds United 5 1 1 3 8 9 1 0 1 4 2 0 1 2 4 7 -1 4
20 Reading 5 1 1 3 5 6 0 1 1 3 4 1 0 2 2 2 -1 4
21 Birmingham City 3 1 0 2 3 5 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 2 2 5 -2 3
22 Coventry City 5 0 2 3 2 5 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 2 2 4 -3 2
23 Watford 4 0 2 2 2 7 0 0 2 0 5 0 2 0 2 2 -5 2
24 Doncaster Rovers 5 0 1 4 2 8 0 1 2 1 3 0 0 2 1 5 -6 1


Not saying we're going to win the league but chill the fcuk out everyone!

[winchester_royal]

Yep, give them time. See where we are in 3 months time when we have some senior players fit.

Sadly though I can't see the majority of fans giving Nige that time. And at a certain point we need to have unity in the club that runs through from the staff to the fans. Will we get that with Adkins? Possibly, but not if the performances of the past 13 months continue.

[MmmMonsterMunch]

Yep, give them time. See where we are in 3 months time when we have some senior players fit.

Sadly though I can't see the majority of fans giving Nige that time. And at a certain point we need to have unity in the club that runs through from the staff to the fans. Will we get that with Adkins? Possibly, but not if the performances of the past 13 months continue.

Exactly. In 2 weeks time we should have Guthrie fully fit & available. A midfield 4 of Blackman, Guthrie, Kuhl/Akpan & Mackie with Obita back at LB & that doesn't look too shabby.

Or even Mackie, Guthrie, Kuhl/Akpan, Obita with Blackman pushed up top with Pog could be decent.

We're not far away from having a little more balance in the side. Just hoping Obita's injury isn't too bad!

[mumbo-jumbo]

Exactly. In 2 weeks time we should have Guthrie fully fit & available. A midfield 4 of Blackman, Guthrie, Kuhl/Akpan & Mackie with Obita back at LB & that doesn't look too shabby.

Or even Mackie, Guthrie, Kuhl/Akpan, Obita with Blackman pushed up top with Pog could be decent.

We're not far away from having a little more balance in the side. Just hoping Obita's injury isn't too bad!

I wait to be corrected if wrong, but I don't think Guthrie is even training at the moment? Perhaps still a considerable way off?

[MmmMonsterMunch]

Exactly. In 2 weeks time we should have Guthrie fully fit & available. A midfield 4 of Blackman, Guthrie, Kuhl/Akpan & Mackie with Obita back at LB & that doesn't look too shabby.

Or even Mackie, Guthrie, Kuhl/Akpan, Obita with Blackman pushed up top with Pog could be decent.

We're not far away from having a little more balance in the side. Just hoping Obita's injury isn't too bad!

I wait to be corrected if wrong, but I don't think Guthrie is even training at the moment? Perhaps still a considerable way off?

Adkins said on BBCRB he has a chance of getting some minutes against Scunny so he isn't far off

[Bristol Paul]

The players don't seem to be playing for the manager. Has NA lost the dressing room. There confidence has
Been drained out of them. The academy kids is a smoke screen for a more serious problem within Reading FC.

Morrison didn't have to leave, he could of said "no" La Fondre was not played by NA. Mcanuff was rarely played by NA,
Drenthe , we know about. Legitwood not given a new contract. Keble and mar. Jumped ship.all in the space of 18 months.

If we had kept half of these players, would we be in this position.

What a load of rubbish, you could get a job reporting for the Sun with the amount of spin/bias you've given!

[Royal Rother]

Rubbish is far too polite a description.

[Lower West]

As an observation Le Fondre is hardly setting the world alight at Cardiff.......