CONFIMRED - Jaap Stam

[Lower West]

in the early stages of his career managerial career.

That's an understatement. Managing an u21 side that finished 9th last season.

[royalp-we]

in the early stages of his career managerial career.

That's an understatement. Managing an u21 side that finished 9th last season.

True, the U21's were in a professional league, some players twice their age; and he started coaching at Zwolle about 4 or 5 years back. Won the Dutch version of our championship as asst. And prior to that was scouting from 2007 for Man Utd. Prior to that winning medals for almost every club as a player. So I guess he feels ready to start that next stage in his career now.

Was it really worth picking out those 8 or 9 words from my entire post

[Lower West]

in the early stages of his career managerial career.

That's an understatement. Managing an u21 side that finished 9th last season.

True, he started coaching at Zwolle about 4 or 5 years back. And prior to that was scouting from 2007 for Man Utd.

Was it really worth picking out those 8 or 9 words from my entire post

Just emphasising the point. He has zero track record.

[royalp-we]

No, not for coaching in England

But he has won a Dutch jupiler with Zwolle as assistant; and the eredivisie as a coach with Ajax. So I wouldn't call that zero

[Horsham Royal]

Charlie Hurley - RFC his 1st managerial post - wins promotion
Ian Branfoot - RFC his 1st managerial post - wins promotion as champions
Mark McGhee - RFC his 1st managerial post - wins promotion as champions
Alan Pardew - RFC his 1st managerial post - wins promotion
Brian McDermott - RFC his 1st (senior) managerial post - wins promotion as champions

Terry Bullivant - RFC his 1st managerial post - gets relegated

All things considered, we don't do too badly giving untried ex-players their first managerial job.

+Quinn and Gooding ?
Ok, so not promoted, but any other year would have been.

[Jackson Corner]

Man Utd Treble winners

Gary Neville 3 Months Valencia Sacked
Phil Neville above and helped Moyes turn Man Utd from Champions to 7th Sacked
Solskjar 6 months Cardiff Relegated Sacked
Sheringham 6 months Crawley Sacked
Roy Keane Failed Sunderland and Ipswich Sacked

[windermere_royal]

Using us as a stepping stone to better things. if hes any good you won`t see his arse for dust if another bigger team comes sniffing

[Pepe the Horseman]

Man Utd Treble winners

Gary Neville 3 Months Valencia Sacked
Phil Neville above and helped Moyes turn Man Utd from Champions to 7th Sacked
Solskjar 6 months Cardiff Relegated Sacked
Sheringham 6 months Crawley Sacked
Roy Keane Failed Sunderland and Ipswich Sacked

Roy Keane took Sunderland from bottom of the Championship to the title.

[Armadillo Roadkill]

I think he will do a decent job here. A lot better than who we could have ended up with, names like Parky returning, did not fill me with confidence.

Some people don't like it but the Championship is evolving and you only have to look at Dyche, Karanka, Bruce from the promoted clubs and the likes of Benitez and di matteo to realise that managers must have the full respect of the entire playing squad and football club; which was blatantly missing with BMcD. In some points it came across as Brian treated players like his buddies. I'm hoping for a more ruthless approach, showing less loyalty to underperforming players and won't be afraid to change things.

Stam is a well renowned figure in world football, in the early stages of his career managerial career. He'll hopefully bring a fresh impetus and open up networks with new player acquisition, simply just because it's him. Some of our fans don't really grasp that all managers must start somewhere; and even on a small budget, players might well want to jump ship for a chance to play for the bloke.

Welcome Mr Stam. You've got my full support until proven otherwise.

Perfect post - 100% agree. He has more than enough of a record to be qualified for a job like Reading.

If you can't get excited about someone of Stam's knowledge and background in the game coming to a club like Reading then you probably need a reality check.

[sandman]

His "knowledge and background" come as a player. What's his knowledge as a manager?

If Jaap Stam came to Reading 10 years ago, in the twilight of his playing career then you could criticise people for not being excited about him turning up. Him turning up as a manager with zero experience is naturally, and rightly met with trepidation.

[Dr_Hfuhruhurr]

I only hope we get many pictures of him leaning against dugouts looking like he hasn't got a clue what to do. Like Solksjaer at Cardiff.

[Sutekh]

Getting a load of whining supporters on BBC Berks saying it's a crap appointment as he has no experience. So just like Mark McGhee, Brian McDermott and Alan Pardew then

FFS shut up and get behind the him, it has as much chance of working as hiring anyone else.

[sandman]

Getting a load of whining supporters on BBC Berks saying it's a crap appointment as he has no experience. So just like Mark McGhee, Brian McDermott and Alan Pardew then

FFS shut up and get behind the him, it has as much chance of working as hiring anyone else.

All except McGhee had a knowledge of the league they were in and the club. McDermott had been scouting the league for years and Pardew had a working knowledge of the club.

[Sutekh]

Getting a load of whining supporters on BBC Berks saying it's a crap appointment as he has no experience. So just like Mark McGhee, Brian McDermott and Alan Pardew then

FFS shut up and get behind the him, it has as much chance of working as hiring anyone else.

All except McGhee had a knowledge of the league they were in and the club. McDermott had been scouting the league for years and Pardew had a working knowledge of the club.

Granted but Jaap Stam will have as much knowledge of the Championship as MM had of Division 3 (in fact he'll probably have more given the exposure of Championship games on the TV around the world) plus he is surrounded by experienced members of the coaching and scouting teams who do know all about the Championship in detail so I hardly think it's too much of a handicap. Lastly what value is there in having a working knowledge of the club seeing all the upheaval that has happened in the last 6 months. Doubt there's anyone who has a working knowledge yet

It will all come down to how much he is willing to listen and not just pile in with a "billy big b****x knows best" attitude.

He's achieved virtually everything in the modern game as player so presumably he's been willing to listen and work hard to make himself the best he could be as a player so I have no doubt it will be the same as he steps out as a manager.

Lastly he will make mistakes (just like our owners have been making) as he learns the new trade but there's no reason he shouldn't be able to ultimately succeed.

I'm now looking forward to perhaps a more comfortable mid table season next time around and playing standards improving.

[sandman]

Getting a load of whining supporters on BBC Berks saying it's a crap appointment as he has no experience. So just like Mark McGhee, Brian McDermott and Alan Pardew then

FFS shut up and get behind the him, it has as much chance of working as hiring anyone else.

All except McGhee had a knowledge of the league they were in and the club. McDermott had been scouting the league for years and Pardew had a working knowledge of the club.

Granted but Jaap Stam will have as much knowledge of the Championship as MM had of Division 3 (in fact he'll probably have more given the exposure of Championship games on the TV around the world) plus he is surrounded by experienced members of the coaching and scouting teams who do know all about the Championship in detail so I hardly think it's too much of a handicap. Lastly what value is there in having a working knowledge of the club seeing all the upheaval that has happened in the last 6 months. Doubt there's anyone who has a working knowledge yet

It will all come down to how much he is willing to listen and not just pile in with a "billy big b****x knows best" attitude.

He's achieved virtually everything in the modern game as player so presumably he's been willing to listen and work hard to make himself the best he could be as a player so I have no doubt it will be the same as he steps out as a manager.

Lastly he will make mistakes (just like our owners have been making) as he learns the new trade but there's no reason he shouldn't be able to ultimately succeed.

I'm now looking forward to perhaps a more comfortable mid table season next time around and playing standards improving.

But we're not talking about now we're talking about what was in place at the club when those men were appointed.

What about these owners tenure so far gives you the impression they are going to let someone make mistakes while learning?

[Winston Smith]

All hail our newest bald overlord.

Good luck Stamy

[Ian Royal]

Getting a load of whining supporters on BBC Berks saying it's a crap appointment as he has no experience. So just like Mark McGhee, Brian McDermott and Alan Pardew then

FFS shut up and get behind the him, it has as much chance of working as hiring anyone else.

Ffs i keep seeing this bollocks. It's nothing like McGhee, Pardew or McDermott. They may have had a similar amount of experience at managing, but they were all internal appointments who already knew the club and the level we were playing at.

Stam doesn't know the club and he doesn't know the Championship. An external appointment from a foreign league is completely different.

The closest comparison is Bullivant.

[Top Flight]

Getting a load of whining supporters on BBC Berks saying it's a crap appointment as he has no experience. So just like Mark McGhee, Brian McDermott and Alan Pardew then

FFS shut up and get behind the him, it has as much chance of working as hiring anyone else.

All except McGhee had a knowledge of the league they were in and the club. McDermott had been scouting the league for years and Pardew had a working knowledge of the club.

McGhee came with Sir Alex Ferguson's endorsement as well. Fergie saw good leadership/managerial qualities in Mark McGhee and recommended him to Sir John.

Who has endorsed Jaap Stam in that way? Anyway, now that he has been appointed, I will support him and hope he does well.

Neil Warnock has just commented about his appointment on TalkSport and he is a bit sceptical. He says the Championship isn't the best environment to be learning about management in.

This is a ruthless division. The Thai's will bare the brunt of the criticism if this goes wrong.

[sandman]

Getting a load of whining supporters on BBC Berks saying it's a crap appointment as he has no experience. So just like Mark McGhee, Brian McDermott and Alan Pardew then

FFS shut up and get behind the him, it has as much chance of working as hiring anyone else.

All except McGhee had a knowledge of the league they were in and the club. McDermott had been scouting the league for years and Pardew had a working knowledge of the club.

McGhee came with Sir Alex Ferguson's endorsement as well. Fergie saw good leadership/managerial qualities in Mark McGhee and recommended him to Sir John.

Who has endorsed Jaap Stam in that way? Anyway, now that he has been appointed, I will support him and hope he does well.

Neil Warnock has just commented about his appointment on TalkSport and he is a bit sceptical. He says the Championship isn't the best environment to be learning about management in.

This is a ruthless division. The Thai's will bare the brunt of the criticism if this goes wrong.

Footballing heavyweight and Under 14's coach, Brian Tevreden.

[JIM]

No one wants to answer the question Has he any money to play with, ?