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Re: Rival Watch

by Hound » 11 Nov 2019 14:46

think sustainable is a good word for our current form. Found one of the most interesting comments from Moore about the previous set up as 'having to be absolutely on top of their game to get the win' or something similar.

It feels we can play averagely but still get the 3 points comfortably with the current set up. We shouldn't have any issues scoring with Swift/Ejaria/Puscas/Baldock + the likes of Boys, Meite and Joao coming off the bench

The back 3 look solid and the wing backs are playing well. I genuinely dont see us being in any trouble at all.

Barnsley, Wigan, M'boro, Luton and a late run from Derby are my picks for the bottom 5

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Re: Rival Watch

by Stranded » 11 Nov 2019 14:51

Hound think sustainable is a good word for our current form. Found one of the most interesting comments from Moore about the previous set up as 'having to be absolutely on top of their game to get the win' or something similar.

It feels we can play averagely but still get the 3 points comfortably with the current set up. We shouldn't have any issues scoring with Swift/Ejaria/Puscas/Baldock + the likes of Boys, Meite and Joao coming off the bench

The back 3 look solid and the wing backs are playing well. I genuinely dont see us being in any trouble at all.

Barnsley, Wigan, M'boro, Luton and a late run from Derby are my picks for the bottom 5


Yep, under Gomes it felt that if we played really well, we could steamroller anyone but the tactics meant all 11 had to be on top form to get that sort of result (or ride our luck). Under Bowen if 1 or 2 aren't quite on it, the structure allows for that and we aren't found wanting - we are also making our mistakes much further forward rather than in our 3rd or half.

That bottom 5 feels like a good shout but I won't feel comfortable saying we are out of that pack until the gap to the bottom 3 is at least double what it is now as we know form can turn in a mo.

Is nice to be thinking upwards for a change rather that worrying where the next goal/point is coming from.

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Re: Rival Watch

by URZZZZ » 11 Nov 2019 15:18

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Hound think sustainable is a good word for our current form. Found one of the most interesting comments from Moore about the previous set up as 'having to be absolutely on top of their game to get the win' or something similar.

It feels we can play averagely but still get the 3 points comfortably with the current set up. We shouldn't have any issues scoring with Swift/Ejaria/Puscas/Baldock + the likes of Boys, Meite and Joao coming off the bench

The back 3 look solid and the wing backs are playing well. I genuinely dont see us being in any trouble at all.

Barnsley, Wigan, M'boro, Luton and a late run from Derby are my picks for the bottom 5



Is nice to be thinking upwards for a change rather that worrying where the next goal/point is coming from.


Agree with you but wasn't everyone saying this after Huddersfield too?

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Re: Rival Watch

by Stranded » 11 Nov 2019 15:36

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Hound think sustainable is a good word for our current form. Found one of the most interesting comments from Moore about the previous set up as 'having to be absolutely on top of their game to get the win' or something similar.

It feels we can play averagely but still get the 3 points comfortably with the current set up. We shouldn't have any issues scoring with Swift/Ejaria/Puscas/Baldock + the likes of Boys, Meite and Joao coming off the bench

The back 3 look solid and the wing backs are playing well. I genuinely dont see us being in any trouble at all.

Barnsley, Wigan, M'boro, Luton and a late run from Derby are my picks for the bottom 5



Is nice to be thinking upwards for a change rather that worrying where the next goal/point is coming from.


Agree with you but wasn't everyone saying this after Huddersfield too?


Yes but as I've already said, this feels sustainable. You look back at the Gomes Golden Week and take Cardiff out of the equation - WBA was arguably a lucky point, we were 2nd best for a lot and at Huddersfield we hardly touched the ball for 60mins.

This feels different but of course it may go south again.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Hound » 11 Nov 2019 15:38

I’m not sure tbh. Certainly some were quite scathing about our first half performance there, and Hudders being in a compete rut

I thought the WBA performance was a very good one, but think this was very much us being on top of our game

There was always the fear that if other teams stopped the ball going into Swift and Ejaria and got behind our FBs they’d be in business - and that was worked out very quickly

Just don’t see the obvious weak link with us now. We won’t win every game but I think we have the players and system to end pretty comfortably


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Re: Rival Watch

by morganb » 11 Nov 2019 17:23

Colin gone from Cardiff

Neil Warnock: Manager leaves Cardiff City - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50380702

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Re: Rival Watch

by WestYorksRoyal » 11 Nov 2019 17:30

morganb Colin gone from Cardiff

Neil Warnock: Manager leaves Cardiff City - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50380702

Last game of his career against Reading a 3-0 loss? Would be fitting.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Snowflake Royal » 11 Nov 2019 17:33

Hound I’m not sure tbh. Certainly some were quite scathing about our first half performance there, and Hudders being in a compete rut

I thought the WBA performance was a very good one, but think this was very much us being on top of our game

There was always the fear that if other teams stopped the ball going into Swift and Ejaria and got behind our FBs they’d be in business - and that was worked out very quickly

Just don’t see the obvious weak link with us now. We won’t win every game but I think we have the players and system to end pretty comfortably

Yeah, I don't see us sustaining our current form because that's 2.5ppg which would probably still see us win the league!

But sustaining good form, for sure. It's still a little early, especially as Bowen's had 3 home games.

I think judge him at 10, if we get 4 from the next 2 that's huge. If we get none we're back in just don't know territory. I agree with stranded that we look like we'd recover, but you never know with so few games as a sample and skewed so heavily towards home matches.

And I really don't like the way our collective expectations seem to pin wheel all over the place.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Hound » 11 Nov 2019 19:25

‘Ending pretty comfortably’ is where I see our season finishing up.

Ie not near relegation or promotion


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Re: Rival Watch

by URZZZZ » 11 Nov 2019 19:37

morganb Colin gone from Cardiff

Neil Warnock: Manager leaves Cardiff City - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50380702


Had to go really. He was going to leave at the end of the season anyway and their squad is too good to go down I think so they may as well give the new manager more time. Although the early favourite is Pulis, which I think is a bit of a sideways appointment

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Re: Rival Watch

by From Despair To Where? » 12 Nov 2019 10:27

Agreed, it's the right time for him to leave. He owes them nothing after getting promotion 2 years ago, they're winding down his time with them in neutral and it gives a new manager a platform to suss out the squad and build towards next season with very little danger of them being in trouble.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Tilehurstsouthbank » 12 Nov 2019 14:00

John Smith How bad are Middlesbrough?! Their last win was when they beat us back in September and they have a stack of tough games coming up.

If they fail to beat Barnsley at home on 27th November, does Jonathan Woodgate go?


Almost certainly. A club like that he's probably already on borrowed time.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Hendo » 12 Nov 2019 14:05

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John Smith How bad are Middlesbrough?! Their last win was when they beat us back in September and they have a stack of tough games coming up.

If they fail to beat Barnsley at home on 27th November, does Jonathan Woodgate go?


Almost certainly. A club like that he's probably already on borrowed time.


Although Steve Gibson is one owner who might give him a bit more time than others.


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Re: Rival Watch

by Sutekh » 12 Nov 2019 18:45

How bad were Reading at Middlesbrough again?

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Re: Rival Watch

by WestYorksRoyal » 12 Nov 2019 18:55

Sutekh How bad were Reading at Middlesbrough again?

Fairly average. Didn't deserve to lose against a poor team.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Brain Traysers » 12 Nov 2019 21:15

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John Smith How bad are Middlesbrough?! Their last win was when they beat us back in September and they have a stack of tough games coming up.

If they fail to beat Barnsley at home on 27th November, does Jonathan Woodgate go?


Almost certainly. A club like that he's probably already on borrowed time.


You can tell the axe is near when they start losing the plot - he's recently been suggesting criticism on social media has been coming from Newcastle and Sunderland fans, not Boro fans

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Re: Rival Watch

by windermereROYAL » 12 Nov 2019 23:20

Not exactly rivals but Phil Parkinson is making a right dogs ear of the Sunderland job, P8 W2 D1 L5.
And some people wanted him here.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Sutekh » 13 Nov 2019 06:22

windermereROYAL Not exactly rivals but Phil Parkinson is making a right dogs ear of the Sunderland job, P8 W2 D1 L5.
And some people wanted him here.


Almost, but not quite! They’ve actually only lost 2 that matter with Parky in charge. 1 at high flying Wycombe in his very first game and the other at a useful Shrewsbury a week later following a 5-0 win over Tranmere. The other defeats were actually a draw in the league cup (lost in penalties) and two likely “reserve” or experimental games in the “Simod cup” equivalent.

The next few will probably decide it for Sunderland fans with a trip to the Gills in the FA Cup and visits from Coventry and Burton in the league then another trip to the Gills followed by Blackpool and Bolton at home.

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Re: Rival Watch

by John Smith » 13 Nov 2019 09:10

Sutekh Almost, but not quite! They’ve actually only lost 2 that matter with Parky in charge. 1 at high flying Wycombe in his very first game and the other at a useful Shrewsbury a week later following a 5-0 win over Tranmere. The other defeats were actually a draw in the league cup (lost in penalties) and two likely “reserve” or experimental games in the “Simod cup” equivalent.

The next few will probably decide it for Sunderland fans with a trip to the Gills in the FA Cup and visits from Coventry and Burton in the league then another trip to the Gills followed by Blackpool and Bolton at home.

Utter drivel: "only lost 2 that matter" - every game matters, if you are happy to lose a game then you aren't a supporter. "a useful Shrewsbury" - they're mid-table! I think it's high time you took off the rose-tinted Parky specs before you make yourself look even more silly.

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Re: Rival Watch

by WoodleyRoyal » 13 Nov 2019 11:48

URZZZZ Thinking about penalties, when was the last time we actually scored a penalty? Surely it’s not Millwall (H) in October 2018?

Feels like we never ever get a penalty nowadays


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