What do we need when we're in the prem?

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What do we need when we're in the prem?

by BR0B0T » 05 Apr 2017 11:12

Which players will cut it and who needs to be shown the door?

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Re: What do we need when we're in the prem?

by Nameless » 05 Apr 2017 11:41

Unnecessary duplication of a thread....

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Re: What do we need when we're in the prem?

by muirinho » 05 Apr 2017 11:44

BR0B0T Which players will cut it and who needs to be shown the door?
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Love the confidence of that "when" . Is this different to the keep/get rid threads? I guess it's based on PL rather than Championship next season.....

I've only included a smattering of our out-on-loan players in this - speaking from a position of ignorance on most of them tbf
Have included the players we have in, on loan, as I believe we have an option on at least one.

Definitely
Liam Moore
John Swift
Liam Kelly
Garath McCleary
Yann Kermogant
Reece Oxford (can dream :-)

Probably OK
Ali Al Habsi
Chris Gunter
Tiago Ilori
Paul McShane
joey vdB
George Evans
Danny Williams
Tennai Watson (difficult to place given how little I've seen against quality opposition - but he's only 19 and not far behind Gunter)
Tyler Blackett (currently no better than Obita, but he's younger so would expect more improvement)
Callum Harriott (based on probable improvement, rather than current state)
Yakou Meite (same as Harriott and Blackett)

Possibly OK
Jordan Obita
Jordon Mutch
Adrian Popa
Roy Beerens
Stephen Quinn (have barely seen him for months!)
Anssi Jaakkola
Lewis Grabban
Niall Keown
Jack Stacey
Josh Barratt

Definitely Not
Jake Cooper
Sandro Weiser
Danzell Gravenberch
Deniss Rakelss
Joseph Mendes
Dominic Samuel
Tarique Fosu
Paolo Hurtado

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Re: What do we need when we're in the prem?

by maffff » 05 Apr 2017 12:27

muirinho Tyler Blackett (currently no better than Obita, but he's younger so would expect more improvement)


Just under 4 months younger, it makes that much of a difference?

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Re: What do we need when we're in the prem?

by muirinho » 05 Apr 2017 12:32

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muirinho Tyler Blackett (currently no better than Obita, but he's younger so would expect more improvement)


Just under 4 months younger, it makes that much of a difference?


Is that all? He seems to have been around for ages.

All the same though - I think all of the defenders have improved under Stam this season - except Obita, who seems pretty much the same as he was 4 years ago.

All IMO obviously.


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by Norfolk Royal » 05 Apr 2017 12:37

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muirinho Tyler Blackett (currently no better than Obita, but he's younger so would expect more improvement)


Just under 4 months younger, it makes that much of a difference?


Is that all? He seems to have been around for ages.

All the same though - I think all of the defenders have improved under Stam this season - except Obita, who seems pretty much the same as he was 4 years ago.

All IMO obviously.


Harsh on Obita. Rarely lets us down and his been the best player in a couple of games I've seen.

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Re: What do we need when we're in the prem?

by AthleticoSpizz » 05 Apr 2017 12:39

about 40 points

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Re: What do we need when we're in the prem?

by George_ » 05 Apr 2017 12:47

Could make it

AAH (for 1 season)
Moore
Oxford (on loan)
McShane
Evans (was quality against United)
Swift
Kelly
McCleary
Yann (for 1 season)

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Re: What do we need when we're in the prem?

by jd82 » 05 Apr 2017 12:54

so long as we have rumblestix and jester hats aplenty, everything else will take care of itself.


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Re: What do we need when we're in the prem?

by muirinho » 05 Apr 2017 13:12

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Just under 4 months younger, it makes that much of a difference?


Is that all? He seems to have been around for ages.

All the same though - I think all of the defenders have improved under Stam this season - except Obita, who seems pretty much the same as he was 4 years ago.

All IMO obviously.


Harsh on Obita. Rarely lets us down and his been the best player in a couple of games I've seen.


He's played 150 or so games for Reading. Three times as many senior appearances as Tyler Blackett. And to me, he hasn't improved this season - so I think he has less capacity to improve - i.e., mid Championship is his level. Not letting us down in the Championship isn't the same thing as being capable of making the step up to the PL,

I could be wrong - about him, and about everybody else. But that's where I was coming from.

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Re: What do we need when we're in the prem?

by Hound » 05 Apr 2017 13:18

agree with everyone on that long list above, but like a few others, would have Obita in the probably list. He is decent and pretty underrated in my opinion. Looks to have toughened up a bit this year to me as well

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Re: What do we need when we're in the prem?

by BR2 » 05 Apr 2017 13:22

I'll go for
Moore
Ilori
Swift
Kelly
McCleary

I have a feeling that the manager (if it is Stam) would have no qualms about culling the squad especially if the owners (whoever they may be) let him have a lot of the £100 million to spend.

A few suggestions of who to bring in:
Alex McCarthy
Trippeir from Spurs (probably a bit fed up of not playing much) at right-back or Byrum from West Ham
Luke Shaw or Saints' McQueen for left-back
Jay Rodrigues up front from Saints (will probably be available)
plus a load of Dutch, German, Spanish and Italians.

Not that we are getting ahead of ourselves of course.

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Re: What do we need when we're in the prem?

by muirinho » 05 Apr 2017 13:24

Hound agree with everyone on that long list above, but like a few others, would have Obita in the probably list. He is decent and pretty underrated in my opinion. Looks to have toughened up a bit this year to me as well


Considering I rated practically the full squad, I'm quite happy to take dissent on just the one player :D


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Re: What do we need when we're in the prem?

by Green » 05 Apr 2017 13:25

The long awaited Green Park extension to the Monorail.

And call me old fashioned, but maybe a pub or two. Get Fuller's to run one at the monorail station.

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Re: What do we need when we're in the prem?

by LUX » 05 Apr 2017 13:29

+1 Green, although I'd go for Courage, out of respect for the heritage of the site.

Hang on, does Courage still exist :?

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Re: What do we need when we're in the prem?

by Silver Fox » 05 Apr 2017 13:36

Jaap Stam

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Re: What do we need when we're in the prem?

by Pepe the Horseman » 05 Apr 2017 13:50

LUX +1 Green, although I'd go for Courage, out of respect for the heritage of the site.

Hang on, does Courage still exist :?

Hark at the cowardly lion over here.

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Re: What do we need when we're in the prem?

by Green » 05 Apr 2017 14:17

LUX +1 Green, although I'd go for Courage, out of respect for the heritage of the site.

Hang on, does Courage still exist :?

https://pubology.wordpress.com/2008/12/19/the-pub-chain-courage/

Should be Simonds really. Whatever happened to them?

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Re: What do we need when we're in the prem?

by Forbury Lion » 05 Apr 2017 14:18

muirinho All the same though - I think all of the defenders have improved under Stam this season - except Obita, who seems pretty much the same as he was 4 years ago.
When he won player of the season? (2013/14)

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Re: What do we need when we're in the prem?

by CountryRoyal » 05 Apr 2017 14:58

I don't like the wording of the title, can we change "when" to "if"?

I'd say we'd need (just for the starting 11);

GK
RB
CB
CM
LW/RW
ST X2

At least.

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