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by BROB0T » 09 May 2022 21:32

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NathStPaul That is a great point. He has confessed to having about 30 user names after all. He had us all on strings.


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and yet you’re not.

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Re: Relegation

by Nameless » 09 May 2022 21:33

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Is it?

I didn't fact check although I thought it was just the breach of agreed budgets that would see another 6 point deduction. Realistically though, what else could it actually be at this stage other than breaching our budgets?


Of course it’s possible.
Unlikely, but possible.
Read the original statement , it’s easier than just asking other people.
And be consistent. First of all you said it was ‘only’ possible if we breached our wage budget. Then you changed it to ‘ breach of budget’.


So you named an unrealistic possibility then...

Breaching our budgets as in playing budget, i.e. wages. The terminology wasn't any different, I just used a different phrase.


No, I described how it could happen, and said it was unlikely ! It has happened in recent times so it’s not just theoretical or ‘unrealistic’. Is it ‘unrealistic’ for Dai to decide he’s had enough ?
Surely if you use a different phrase you are using different terminology ! Whatever.....

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by BROB0T » 09 May 2022 21:54

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NathStPaul That is a great point. He has confessed to having about 30 user names after all. He had us all on strings.


Went for a pint with Karboota the other day he's alright IRL!


and yet you’re not.

It’s a funny old world.


actually, any chance we could just be nice to each other?

I'll promise to vote Labour in '24 (if I'm in England)

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by Loafer » 10 May 2022 05:56

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Went for a pint with Karboota the other day he's alright IRL!


and yet you’re not.

It’s a funny old world.


actually, any chance we could just be nice to each other?

I'll promise to vote Labour in '24 (if I'm in England)

I'm not KKKARBOOT ffs...
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Re: Relegation

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 10 May 2022 09:06

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Of course it’s possible.
Unlikely, but possible.
Read the original statement , it’s easier than just asking other people.
And be consistent. First of all you said it was ‘only’ possible if we breached our wage budget. Then you changed it to ‘ breach of budget’.


So you named an unrealistic possibility then...

Breaching our budgets as in playing budget, i.e. wages. The terminology wasn't any different, I just used a different phrase.


No, I described how it could happen, and said it was unlikely ! It has happened in recent times so it’s not just theoretical or ‘unrealistic’. Is it ‘unrealistic’ for Dai to decide he’s had enough ?


What is there to suggest that it's realistic that we might go into administration and that the Dai's have had enough? If anything, they've very clearly stated on most club statements in recent times that they are wholeheartedly committed to the club. Yes, it could change at any given moment, but that doesn't seem likely at this point.


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Re: Relegation

by NathStPaul » 10 May 2022 09:09

The owner cannot just walk away, he'd be in serious legal trouble if he did. There are things in place through the FA and Football League to stop things like that happening. At worst, the owner can refuse to fund new wages or transfers until he sells, the club wouldn't just instantly fold.

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Re: Relegation

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 10 May 2022 09:35

NathStPaul The owner cannot just walk away, he'd be in serious legal trouble if he did. There are things in place through the FA and Football League to stop things like that happening. At worst, the owner can refuse to fund new wages or transfers until he sells, the club wouldn't just instantly fold.


Yes - ultimately that was my point. It just doesn't seem very likely to happen at this point. The point of "at any given moment" wasn't literal.

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Re: Relegation

by NathStPaul » 10 May 2022 09:40

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NathStPaul The owner cannot just walk away, he'd be in serious legal trouble if he did. There are things in place through the FA and Football League to stop things like that happening. At worst, the owner can refuse to fund new wages or transfers until he sells, the club wouldn't just instantly fold.


Yes - ultimately that was my point. It just doesn't seem very likely to happen at this point. The point of "at any given moment" wasn't literal.

I do think he'd sell if it meant a return on his investment and as we have seen any side can be subject to a takeover approach at any time. I'd guess that his ultimate goal at this stage of proceedings. Promotion is a long, long way off.

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Re: Relegation

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 10 May 2022 09:53

Probably the only way that would happen is through promotion really, as you say. He's thrown a lot of money at the club thus far in his tenure, but it will be a good number of years before we end up challenging seriously/consistently.


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Re: Relegation

by Royal_jimmy » 31 Jul 2022 11:17

If we survive this season I'll feel far more bullish about our next few seasons fortunes.

If we go down I think we'll do an Ipswich

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Re: Relegation

by Snowflake Royal » 31 Jul 2022 12:59

Royal_jimmy If we survive this season I'll feel far more bullish about our next few seasons fortunes.

If we go down I think we'll do an Ipswich

Consistently top half and knocking around the POs would be nice.

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Re: Relegation

by Jackson Corner » 01 Aug 2022 18:45

Winning more than 8 home games a season is the stuff of dream’s.

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Re: Relegation

by Lower West » 01 Aug 2022 23:00

NathStPaul The owner cannot just walk away, he'd be in serious legal trouble if he did. There are things in place through the FA and Football League to stop things like that happening. At worst, the owner can refuse to fund new wages or transfers until he sells, the club wouldn't just instantly fold.


A football club is just like any other business in the UK. The owner isn't legally bound to use their own money to fund a business which is haemorrhaging cash. The sister has the major stake in the Chinese business. The share price of which has declined significantly over the past 12 months. Reflecting the domestic Covid lockdowns which have been imposed. There's a point when looking for an exit route maybe the preferable option.


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Re: Relegation

by WestYorksRoyal » 02 Aug 2022 13:56

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NathStPaul The owner cannot just walk away, he'd be in serious legal trouble if he did. There are things in place through the FA and Football League to stop things like that happening. At worst, the owner can refuse to fund new wages or transfers until he sells, the club wouldn't just instantly fold.


A football club is just like any other business in the UK. The owner isn't legally bound to use their own money to fund a business which is haemorrhaging cash. The sister has the major stake in the Chinese business. The share price of which has declined significantly over the past 12 months. Reflecting the domestic Covid lockdowns which have been imposed. There's a point when looking for an exit route maybe the preferable option.

But I guess the point is that he can't access the money he has put in. Even if it is debt to himself, it is subordinate to all our other obligations and he can't just take it. So we would not immediately fold, but we would run into trouble pretty quickly. If he wants his money back then a sale is the only way (or making a Championship club profitable over the long term, which is a laughable ambition).

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Re: Relegation

by Royal_jimmy » 13 Aug 2022 15:28

We are a shambles of a side. Ince and Bowen admitted no one else can sign for us unless we pull a great deal to sell Puscas out of the hat. Ince has massive job on his hands to keep us up. It'll be a miracle if he does.

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Re: Relegation

by Royal_jimmy » 13 Aug 2022 18:02

Meh if we go down we will be shot of Joe Lumley

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Re: Relegation

by SouthDownsRoyal » 13 Aug 2022 22:34

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Re: Relegation

by windermereROYAL » 14 Aug 2022 10:18

Has any team been relegated in August before? you would think so looking at here and social media.

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Re: Relegation

by SouthDownsRoyal » 14 Aug 2022 10:40

windermereROYAL Has any team been relegated in August before? you would think so looking at here and social media.


I think it is a first, after three games to be relegated, especially odd when you are not in the relegation zone.

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Re: Relegation

by Snowflake Royal » 14 Aug 2022 12:22

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windermereROYAL Has any team been relegated in August before? you would think so looking at here and social media.


I think it is a first, after three games to be relegated, especially odd when you are not in the relegation zone.

Royal-jimmy had us relegated before a ball was kicked, so you're a bit slow to this one.

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