by ElmParkBloke » 28 Feb 2018 14:53
by bracksroyal10 » 28 Feb 2018 15:01
by genome » 28 Feb 2018 15:25
by Hound » 28 Feb 2018 15:29
genome Our home form this season...
WDWDLLDLLWLDWDLLWLLDL
P21 W5 D6 L10
Ignoring the decent start, that's P17 W3 D4 L10 since September 9th
Has it ever been this bad at home?
by genome » 28 Feb 2018 15:34
Houndgenome Our home form this season...
WDWDLLDLLWLDWDLLWLLDL
P21 W5 D6 L10
Ignoring the decent start, that's P17 W3 D4 L10 since September 9th
Has it ever been this bad at home?
is that including cup games? Actually sounds better than I thought it was.
by 10539.4 Miles Away » 28 Feb 2018 15:36
genomeHoundgenome Our home form this season...
WDWDLLDLLWLDWDLLWLLDL
P21 W5 D6 L10
Ignoring the decent start, that's P17 W3 D4 L10 since September 9th
Has it ever been this bad at home?
is that including cup games? Actually sounds better than I thought it was.
Yeah, league only is
DWLDLLWLDWDLLLLDL
P17 W3 D5 L9
3 wins in 17 home games is horrendous
by Hound » 28 Feb 2018 15:37
by leon » 28 Feb 2018 15:53
10539.4 Miles AwaygenomeHound
is that including cup games? Actually sounds better than I thought it was.
Yeah, league only is
DWLDLLWLDWDLLLLDL
P17 W3 D5 L9
3 wins in 17 home games is horrendous
Bloody hell. There's value for money for your season ticket. Fair play to those still turning up week in week out.
by Basildon » 28 Feb 2018 15:55
Hound 2 points in the last 7 home games is absolutely ghastly
by tidus_mi2 » 28 Feb 2018 15:57
by genome » 28 Feb 2018 16:16
by tidus_mi2 » 28 Feb 2018 16:38
Don't know why that commenter was saying Sharp was unmarked for the 3rd. Looks like he was quite tightly marked but managed to work an inch of space to get beyond the defence and slip the ball home. Classic poachers goal.
by Hound » 28 Feb 2018 16:40
tidus_mi2 Just read the Sheff Utd forum for what has to be the most deluded view of their 3rd goal:Don't know why that commenter was saying Sharp was unmarked for the 3rd. Looks like he was quite tightly marked but managed to work an inch of space to get beyond the defence and slip the ball home. Classic poachers goal.
No matter which side of the argument, bad sportsmanship or stupidity on Reading's part, how can anyone look at that goal and claim that Sharp did anything remotely skilful to score that goal? Surely the only two options are:
1) They cheated.
2) Reading were stupid and switched off.
by Victor Meldrew » 28 Feb 2018 16:46
genomeHoundgenome Our home form this season...
WDWDLLDLLWLDWDLLWLLDL
P21 W5 D6 L10
Ignoring the decent start, that's P17 W3 D4 L10 since September 9th
Has it ever been this bad at home?
is that including cup games? Actually sounds better than I thought it was.
Yeah, league only is
DWLDLLWLDWDLLLLDL
P17 W3 D5 L9
3 wins in 17 home games is horrendous
by Zip » 28 Feb 2018 17:03
Victor MeldrewMoorgateRoyal I'm not reading through the whole thread so please forgive me if I miss other points of discussion or make a point which has already been made.
The first goal felt inevitable after a really shaky opening few minutes and we got what we deserved, really. We didn't respond like we did against Derby and it looked like it'd be tough from there. The second was a great strike, take nothing away from it, but we were poor in getting out and pressuring the ball and with so many men back, we were so passive we were inviting it. Good smash from Richards for our goal, and we looked like we might be finding some character to get back into it. The pen was telegraphed but looked a good save anyway. Watching it back may be different, however.
The third goal was a complete shambles. It is up to the ref to stop the game for an injury in the first place, but I still do think it's sporting to give it back when the other team kicks it out. But when the player doesn't event want the physio you have to expect the other team to take advantage, which Sheff U deservedly did.
My player ratings are below, for anyone who gives a shit.
Mannone - 5. Unlucky with the goals, from memory, and needs to continue kicking it long from goal kicks as standard. We can play it short when it's on quick, and we're going to move up the pitch, which we were able to do in the second half late on, when there was more space.
Gunter - 4. Utter gimp for their third goal and offers nothing going forwards. Defensively he wasn't solid tonight and I can't really see any leadership from him, other than shouting at the ref and lino.
Richards - 6. Tried to get up and down and took his goal well. He's acquitting himself fairly well, being dropped into a team low on confidence battling it out at the bottom of the league.
Moore - 5. Trying his best but we are so disjointed at the back and he often looks like the only one holding it together. Needs to match players like Clarke and Donaldson's aggression in the air a bit more.
Ilori - 4. Shaky start and dwells on the ball too much in games where we can't afford to do it. I thought he actually improved as the game went on and got the ball moving forwards a lot quicker, which everyone needs to do. There's a good player in there, he just needs a confidence boost and to be a bit more canny.
JvdB - 4. Spent far too much time trying to have a go at Sharp who must have been laughing at him throughout. He slows us down so much and is positionally woeful, as well as just fouling people all over the shop.
Kelly - 5. Tried to get us going and did well to win the penalty. Good set piece delivery as well. Needs some more muscle in alongside him.
Clement - 5. I thought he was reasonable and tried to keep doing the right things. Was involved in some good moves that led to corners. He is just physically not there yet, and Sheff U were always going to be getting up and at us, which made things difficult for him.
Bacuna - 4. Didn't impose himself on the game and his penalty was telegraphed completely, although it looked a good save. Questionable mentality for me, he always looks like he'll be one getting involved in shoving and pointing, or like he'll try and cut someone in half.
Jon Dadi - 5. Grafted but made no real impact. No one was close enough to him anyway.
Martin - 4. Anonymous. One chance near the end which he shanked wide but other than that he was a passenger.
I'm not one to advocate sacking the manager, and I like that traditionally we give managers a chance. But, when you just can't see what's so blatantly wrong, and can't seem to either change it or get your message across well enough, then there's a big problem.
He dropped Joey on Saturday and we looked a lot better, and even last night when we started to just go long from the goal kicks, which isn't a huge change, it allowed us to play our game further forward and put at least a bit of pressure on the opponents. Mixing up how you play doesn't make you a bad team, and simplifying things when you're playing shit can often lead to better results.
I want Jaap to succeed and he obviously wants to as well, but it seems like he can't see what's in front of him.
Pretty good summary although I might have upped the rating for Kelly.
Good to see that somebody else notices Gunter's shortcomings.
According to Talksport we and Middlesboro are the only 2 sides in the Championship that have failed to score a goal in added time this season-not sure what that says other than perhaps that we don't fight to the end (no surprise for a team that shows so little fight in 90 minutes).
Things must be bad for zip and Royal Blue to finally lose their RTGs and both see and acknowledge what is happening on the pitch.
Interesting to hear Stam acknowledge that it could have been 6 or 7.
There is something very likeable about the man, as there was with Rodgers , but it looks as though at this early stage of his management career he cannot manage players of Championship ability and, like Rodgers, he might be better managing players of a much higher standard.
Being Dutch he is quite open and once again he came out with the couldn't-care-less-really line about being sacked-presumably he is already a wealthy man even before any major pay out from us if he were to be sacked.
The daftest thing to me from his interview was saying that Mo was unfit and wouldn't have gone on-why have him freezing in the dug-out?
As for the attendance,there were just 5 of us in our row in the East Stand and just 2 in the row in front so somewhere around 7000 was probably about right with the way end occupied at around 15% of capacity.
Where do we go from here?
Wolves..........the sort of game where in the past we might produce a shock result (such as at high-flying Derby a couple of seasons ago when Fosu and a couple pf other kids played) but it has got so bad it is so difficult to see happening.
One good thing about last night-no traffic on the roads, motorways not closed and for once got in before midnight.
by Zip » 28 Feb 2018 17:11
Hound 2 points in the last 7 home games is absolutely ghastly
by Lower West » 28 Feb 2018 18:14
by Platypuss » 28 Feb 2018 18:18
double dtidus_mi2JR
Good riddance you feeble sorry excuse for a supporter - if only this post was the truth!
Does feel like there needs to be a double d 24/7 IP watch
Good riddance to me too. I will gladly leave this shambles of a team behind.
by Platypuss » 28 Feb 2018 18:35
by marcusopp » 28 Feb 2018 18:35
double d Wasted 45 minutes of my life there. Left at ht. Chucked my st away somewhere in a bush. I do not see myself ever going back. I will get a Crawley st next year when I move.
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