MATCHWATCH : Rotherham United (h) sponsored by all or nothing

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Rotherham United (h) sponsored by all or nothing

by Vision » 25 Feb 2019 10:38

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Zip Someone on here made the good point that the successful teams in this division get the ball moving forward quickly. We don’t. On the rare occasions we do get upfield quickly we look good. Yesterday’s goal being a case in point where Swift passes out wide. The ball is then progressed to McCleary who attacks the byline and pulls it back to Ejaria. Sadly we rarely do this with our centre backs often lumbering forward with the ball to little effect.

Yeah. That superb move was uncharacteristic in so many ways. Martinez going longer than usual to Yiadom rathrr than Moore / Miazga / a deep midfielder, Swift quickly apraying the ball wide toBlackett rather than taking someone on or passing into congested midfield, Blackett playing a firm first time pass straight up the wing...

Its the ideal of what Stam and Gomes want but it happens about once every 5 games.


It happened a lot more than usual. There were at least two superb cross field balls from Baker out to the left wing. The first half was probably the best 45 mins he's played in some time. Meite was targeted a few times and a lot of balls were played directly into Oliveira too so I'm not sure we really have quite the obsession with passing around the back that people perceive. Even when we did we transitioned out of it very well into midfield on a number of occasions especially the first half.

One thing I have noticed though and certainly doesn't help us is that Liam Moore almost exclusively only passes to the person directly next to him. A number of times he could have by passed Miazga out to the full back or inside forward positions but constantly just rolled it to the nearest player thus slowing absolutely everything down. I've no idea if this is some sort of hangover from the Stam days but his first season here under Stam he was much more positive with the ball and would even regularly bring the ball out of defence himself. Now his only mode is pass directly to the nearest person. It's incredibly frustrating.

Another thing which didn't help is that Oliveira wasn't his usual self in terms of holding the ball up. He still did the odd good thing but in general it just didn't stick with him as it usually would.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Rotherham United (h) sponsored by all or nothing

by Hound » 25 Feb 2019 10:48

true Vision re: Oliveira. He couldn't keep hold of the ball, and it was his slip that led to the Rotherham goal, when he had a great opportunity to play in McCleary down the wing

Will give a bit of credit to Rotherham here as well. Their number 5, Semi Ajayi, had a very good game for them. Very aggressive and didn't let Nelson settle at all. Thought he was the best player on the pitch tbh

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Rotherham United (h) sponsored by all or nothing

by Henley Royal 1 » 25 Feb 2019 11:14

Hound true Vision re: Oliveira. He couldn't keep hold of the ball, and it was his slip that led to the Rotherham goal, when he had a great opportunity to play in McCleary down the wing

Will give a bit of credit to Rotherham here as well. Their number 5, Semi Ajayi, had a very good game for them. Very aggressive and didn't let Nelson settle at all. Thought he was the best player on the pitch tbh

Yes we had a three on two situation seconds later it was 1v1.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Rotherham United (h) sponsored by all or nothing

by CountryRoyal » 25 Feb 2019 14:40

NewCorkSeth Was the ex as impressive as Rotherham?


She was like a Chelsea with makeup and Rotherham without.

In fact Rotherham is quite a decent comparison, tries hard but just lacks quality.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Rotherham United (h) sponsored by all or nothing

by NewCorkSeth » 25 Feb 2019 15:22

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NewCorkSeth Was the ex as impressive as Rotherham?


She was like a Chelsea with makeup and Rotherham without.

In fact Rotherham is quite a decent comparison, tries hard but just lacks quality.

At least she wasn't a Reading. Doesn't try and rarely achieves anything of note.


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Re: MATCHWATCH : Rotherham United (h) sponsored by all or nothing

by Snowflake Royal » 26 Feb 2019 13:06

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Zip Someone on here made the good point that the successful teams in this division get the ball moving forward quickly. We don’t. On the rare occasions we do get upfield quickly we look good. Yesterday’s goal being a case in point where Swift passes out wide. The ball is then progressed to McCleary who attacks the byline and pulls it back to Ejaria. Sadly we rarely do this with our centre backs often lumbering forward with the ball to little effect.

Yeah. That superb move was uncharacteristic in so many ways. Martinez going longer than usual to Yiadom rathrr than Moore / Miazga / a deep midfielder, Swift quickly apraying the ball wide toBlackett rather than taking someone on or passing into congested midfield, Blackett playing a firm first time pass straight up the wing...

Its the ideal of what Stam and Gomes want but it happens about once every 5 games.


It happened a lot more than usual. There were at least two superb cross field balls from Baker out to the left wing. The first half was probably the best 45 mins he's played in some time. Meite was targeted a few times and a lot of balls were played directly into Oliveira too so I'm not sure we really have quite the obsession with passing around the back that people perceive. Even when we did we transitioned out of it very well into midfield on a number of occasions especially the first half.

One thing I have noticed though and certainly doesn't help us is that Liam Moore almost exclusively only passes to the person directly next to him. A number of times he could have by passed Miazga out to the full back or inside forward positions but constantly just rolled it to the nearest player thus slowing absolutely everything down. I've no idea if this is some sort of hangover from the Stam days but his first season here under Stam he was much more positive with the ball and would even regularly bring the ball out of defence himself. Now his only mode is pass directly to the nearest person. It's incredibly frustrating.

Another thing which didn't help is that Oliveira wasn't his usual self in terms of holding the ball up. He still did the odd good thing but in general it just didn't stick with him as it usually would.

Agree, but I think a lot of that was due to how vulnerable Rovrum were once we got passed the high press, which I think is uncharacteristic of most teams.

Very disappointed with Moore these days. Half the player he was and his heart just isnt in it here anymore.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Rotherham United (h) sponsored by all or nothing

by Victor Meldrew » 26 Feb 2019 13:16

Hound true Vision re: Oliveira. He couldn't keep hold of the ball, and it was his slip that led to the Rotherham goal, when he had a great opportunity to play in McCleary down the wing

Will give a bit of credit to Rotherham here as well. Their number 5, Semi Ajayi, had a very good game for them. Very aggressive and didn't let Nelson settle at all. Thought he was the best player on the pitch tbh



Agreed.
I said to my brother just after half-time that this lad must be on loan from one of the bigger clubs-he was strong, quick and comfortable on the ball.
On checking his programme (one of the few that always still buys one) it turns out that the player has had loan spells at places like Crewe but originally was an Arsenal youngster.
Sod's Law he is the one who also ends up scoring.
Good player and if we stay up and they go down.........

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