Squad for 2020/21

[Hound]

surely better to give McIntyre those games now for experience?

Certainly see him as 1st or 2nd choice starter next season

[Nameless]

Wondering if we could see something like this for the last couple of games maybe...

.........................Cabral
Araruna, Morrison, Osho, Richards
................Rinomhota, East
Nevers, ............Olise,........ Baldock
..........................Meite

Subs: CBC, McIntyre, Gunter, Swift, Ejaria, Puscas, Masika

See Osho at CB and we know Meite wants to play 9 so give it another go. Bit more of a look at Araruna. Experience in Baldock and Morro. See how Olise does as the main creative outlet and have a second look at East. Not sure about Nevers - don't know where he prefers to play and if sub appearances might be more appropriate.

By that time we should be well safe and McIntyre will hopefully have had a solid run of a few games. Can't see us being in with a shout of the POs still. So perfect opportunity to say go and prove your worth, convince me you can play a full part and stop me needing to make a few signings.

East won’t make it here IMO, reminds me of a Jake Taylor type of player, league 2 level

Shift Araruna into CM, Osho to RB and McIntyre into CB. Or use a back three with Osho, McIntyre and Morrison instead

Also add a couple more onto the bench, 9 players there instead of 7

That does seem likely with East, but I don't think we lose anything having a look in a couple of nothing games.

Having seen Araruna at CM and RB, there's no way I'd play him in midfield.

Osho doesn't look anything like a RB to me from his last start either and he's traditionally been a CB from what I've seen. I'd be more I interested in him as 4thor 5th choice CB, but haven't really rated him anywhere.

As for McIntyre, to respond to Nameless's comment, I fully expect him to have proved his worth over the next couple of appearances and earlier in the season to already firmly be in the first team plans as a first or second choice CB, so no need to experiment with him.

Playing McIntyre in 5 games isn’t experimenting. He will be a regular next season and we need to make him feel like he’s the future. He’s not had a run of games, now is the time to give him that.
Osho is out of contract, he was not going to get another deal as a CB. Looking at whether he can change to RB is the chancefor him to earn a new deal. It would be utterly pointless to take away his opportunity and deprive McIntyre of games. I’m sure no one with any sense would write a player off after just one game....

[Zip]

Wondering if we could see something like this for the last couple of games maybe...

.........................Cabral
Araruna, Morrison, Osho, Richards
................Rinomhota, East
Nevers, ............Olise,........ Baldock
..........................Meite

Subs: CBC, McIntyre, Gunter, Swift, Ejaria, Puscas, Masika

See Osho at CB and we know Meite wants to play 9 so give it another go. Bit more of a look at Araruna. Experience in Baldock and Morro. See how Olise does as the main creative outlet and have a second look at East. Not sure about Nevers - don't know where he prefers to play and if sub appearances might be more appropriate.

By that time we should be well safe and McIntyre will hopefully have had a solid run of a few games. Can't see us being in with a shout of the POs still. So perfect opportunity to say go and prove your worth, convince me you can play a full part and stop me needing to make a few signings.

East won’t make it here IMO, reminds me of a Jake Taylor type of player, league 2 level

Shift Araruna into CM, Osho to RB and McIntyre into CB. Or use a back three with Osho, McIntyre and Morrison instead

Also add a couple more onto the bench, 9 players there instead of 7

That does seem likely with East, but I don't think we lose anything having a look in a couple of nothing games.

Having seen Araruna at CM and RB, there's no way I'd play him in midfield.

Osho doesn't look anything like a RB to me from his last start either and he's traditionally been a CB from what I've seen. I'd be more I interested in him as 4thor 5th choice CB, but haven't really rated him anywhere.

As for McIntyre, to respond to Nameless's comment, I fully expect him to have proved his worth over the next couple of appearances and earlier in the season to already firmly be in the first team plans as a first or second choice CB, so no need to experiment with him.

Why not play Osho and McIntyre and centre back and rest Morrison? If Moore leaves we need to see if both of them can step up. I think they both can.
Give Araruna a chance at right back to see if he can understudy Yiadom.

We need to have a season where we don’t end up bringing in another 9 or 10 players. So give Masika and Boye starts too. Let’s see what they can do. A bit early for Nevers though I feel.

[From Despair To Where?]

As I said in another thread, I'd happily trade Moore for Pele.

I think we need CB cover but we definitely need a decent DM to give us shape in midfield. It's the one position I'd go all out to recruit a starter in.

I'd be happy with a DM, 3 or 4 loans for depth, particularly in defence and then using the academy.

[Zip]

As I said in another thread, I'd happily trade Moore for Pele.

I think we need CB cover but we definitely need a decent DM to give us shape in midfield. It's the one position I'd go all out to recruit a starter in.

I'd be happy with a DM, 3 or 4 loans for depth, particularly in defence and then using the academy.

I think we could buy Pele for not a lot. He is 29 in September and is being loaned here there and everywhere. The problem is I don’t think we will command a big fee for Moore and we are committed to buying Ejaria. So we would probably need to sell Swift or Puscas too if we were to bring in Pele.

[Snowflake Royal]

East won’t make it here IMO, reminds me of a Jake Taylor type of player, league 2 level

Shift Araruna into CM, Osho to RB and McIntyre into CB. Or use a back three with Osho, McIntyre and Morrison instead

Also add a couple more onto the bench, 9 players there instead of 7

That does seem likely with East, but I don't think we lose anything having a look in a couple of nothing games.

Having seen Araruna at CM and RB, there's no way I'd play him in midfield.

Osho doesn't look anything like a RB to me from his last start either and he's traditionally been a CB from what I've seen. I'd be more I interested in him as 4thor 5th choice CB, but haven't really rated him anywhere.

As for McIntyre, to respond to Nameless's comment, I fully expect him to have proved his worth over the next couple of appearances and earlier in the season to already firmly be in the first team plans as a first or second choice CB, so no need to experiment with him.

Why not play Osho and McIntyre and centre back and rest Morrison? If Moore leaves we need to see if both of them can step up. I think they both can.
Give Araruna a chance at right back to see if he can understudy Yiadom.

We need to have a season where we don’t end up bringing in another 9 or 10 players. So give Masika and Boye starts too. Let’s see what they can do. A bit early for Nevers though I feel.

I think it's better to have someone experienced next to a young CB to help them through the game if you've got 2 with minimal experience and it goes badly it could just be the combination rather than the individuals. Less likely to be a problem with an old hand in there too.

Rino's played enough games to do that to some extent for East and Olise IMO, otherwise I'd have stuck Swift or someone more experienced in.

[Zip]

That does seem likely with East, but I don't think we lose anything having a look in a couple of nothing games.

Having seen Araruna at CM and RB, there's no way I'd play him in midfield.

Osho doesn't look anything like a RB to me from his last start either and he's traditionally been a CB from what I've seen. I'd be more I interested in him as 4thor 5th choice CB, but haven't really rated him anywhere.

As for McIntyre, to respond to Nameless's comment, I fully expect him to have proved his worth over the next couple of appearances and earlier in the season to already firmly be in the first team plans as a first or second choice CB, so no need to experiment with him.

Why not play Osho and McIntyre and centre back and rest Morrison? If Moore leaves we need to see if both of them can step up. I think they both can.
Give Araruna a chance at right back to see if he can understudy Yiadom.

We need to have a season where we don’t end up bringing in another 9 or 10 players. So give Masika and Boye starts too. Let’s see what they can do. A bit early for Nevers though I feel.

I think it's better to have someone experienced next to a young CB to help them through the game if you've got 2 with minimal experience and it goes badly it could just be the combination rather than the individuals. Less likely to be a problem with an old hand in there too.

Rino's played enough games to do that to some extent for East and Olise IMO, otherwise I'd have stuck Swift or someone more experienced in.

Sure but does it really matter? We are safe. The ground will be empty. A very good time to try some things out.

[Mid Sussex Royal]

As I said in another thread, I'd happily trade Moore for Pele.

I think we need CB cover but we definitely need a decent DM to give us shape in midfield. It's the one position I'd go all out to recruit a starter in.

I'd be happy with a DM, 3 or 4 loans for depth, particularly in defence and then using the academy.

Agree - I really think we should do all we can to keep Pele, and by all accounts he likes it here. We seem more solid and balanced when he plays.

[Snowflake Royal]

Why not play Osho and McIntyre and centre back and rest Morrison? If Moore leaves we need to see if both of them can step up. I think they both can.
Give Araruna a chance at right back to see if he can understudy Yiadom.

We need to have a season where we don’t end up bringing in another 9 or 10 players. So give Masika and Boye starts too. Let’s see what they can do. A bit early for Nevers though I feel.

I think it's better to have someone experienced next to a young CB to help them through the game if you've got 2 with minimal experience and it goes badly it could just be the combination rather than the individuals. Less likely to be a problem with an old hand in there too.

Rino's played enough games to do that to some extent for East and Olise IMO, otherwise I'd have stuck Swift or someone more experienced in.

Sure but does it really matter? We are safe. The ground will be empty. A very good time to try some things out.

Well yeah, that's my point in playing some of the other Academy lads, but you've got to still be able to get good Info from it.

I've no particular problem with Osho and McIntyre together I just think it will potentially tell us less about Osho and isn't my first choice.

[Nameless]

AGree with Snowflake that if you play youngsters you have to do it sensibly. It’s not fair on them to put a team out that is disjointed, not played together much or has players out of position.
Playing Osho and McIntyre together in the centre just makes no sense. There is nothing to learn.
Stuff has to be done for a reason, not just to say ‘we gave x a chance’.

[Snowflake Royal]

Is anyone else struggling with the point of Araruna btw?

Defensive midfielder who can play RB. Signed when we released one of our young back up RBs.

Has had very few minutes, split between RB and CM. Looked lost in midfield to me and handy at RB. We're now apparently converting a young CB to RB.

It doesn't exactly speak to a clear planned transfer and squad strategy.

Hopefully we'll see some more of him before season end and he won't just prove to be another Gravenberch, pointlessly bloating the squad.

[Zip]

AGree with Snowflake that if you play youngsters you have to do it sensibly. It’s not fair on them to put a team out that is disjointed, not played together much or has players out of position.
Playing Osho and McIntyre together in the centre just makes no sense. There is nothing to learn.
Stuff has to be done for a reason, not just to say ‘we gave x a chance’.

I don’t see why playing Osho and McIntyre together at this stage of the season is such a problem. They may be two of our four centre backs next season. It would take an injury and suspension of other centre backs for them to be alongside each other. Bowen can use these next five games to experiment. Perhaps put two experienced full backs alongside them to give them support.

[Zip]

Araruna was a strange signing given we had Howe as the obvious number two for Yids next season. Unless he is currently injured he is totally out of favour.

[NewCorkSeth]

Howe wanted out though right? Can we stop pretending he would have been fine as number 2? Or even ready??

[Snowflake Royal]

Howe wanted out though right? Can we stop pretending he would have been fine as number 2? Or even ready??

Where you getting that from?

He looked fine in his appearances. Why wouldn't he be ok for No 2? Who do we have that's better currently?

A converted academy CB who is ooc or a Brazilian, apparently defensive midfielder, that's had less than a game at RB for us?

[morganb]

Is anyone else struggling with the point of Araruna btw?

Defensive midfielder who can play RB. Signed when we released one of our young back up RBs.

Has had very few minutes, split between RB and CM. Looked lost in midfield to me and handy at RB. We're now apparently converting a young CB to RB.

It doesn't exactly speak to a clear planned transfer and squad strategy.

Hopefully we'll see some more of him before season end and he won't just prove to be another Gravenberch, pointlessly bloating the squad.

Wasn't Araruna identified by Alexandre Mattos, the South American Director of Football who never actually joined Reading. Rumour had it he was asked to identify players in South America who had a European passport and were nearing the end of their contract.

[Nameless]

Howe wanted out though right? Can we stop pretending he would have been fine as number 2? Or even ready??

I certainly heard that there was a bit more to the move than we just decided he wasn’t good enough. My source isn’t good enough to say more, and there was nothing untoward involved.

[Nameless]

AGree with Snowflake that if you play youngsters you have to do it sensibly. It’s not fair on them to put a team out that is disjointed, not played together much or has players out of position.
Playing Osho and McIntyre together in the centre just makes no sense. There is nothing to learn.
Stuff has to be done for a reason, not just to say ‘we gave x a chance’.

I don’t see why playing Osho and McIntyre together at this stage of the season is such a problem. They may be two of our four centre backs next season. It would take an injury and suspension of other centre backs for them to be alongside each other. Bowen can use these next five games to experiment. Perhaps put two experienced full backs alongside them to give them support.

Because as I hear it Osho is out contract and there was not a contract on the table for him as a centre back. That may have changed but playing him there would be like experimenting with McCleary at rightback.
Much more relevant to play McIntyre and Morrison who may well be our regular pairing than play two players highly 7nlikely to play together.

[SCIAG]

Is anyone else struggling with the point of Araruna btw?

Defensive midfielder who can play RB. Signed when we released one of our young back up RBs.

Has had very few minutes, split between RB and CM. Looked lost in midfield to me and handy at RB. We're now apparently converting a young CB to RB.

It doesn't exactly speak to a clear planned transfer and squad strategy.

Hopefully we'll see some more of him before season end and he won't just prove to be another Gravenberch, pointlessly bloating the squad.

Absolutely. Been a weird one from the start, looked very good in one half at right back but obviously hasn’t convinced Bowen.

Boye is another one who just doesn’t make sense. Had quite a few of those lately.

[SCIAG]

Howe wanted out though right? Can we stop pretending he would have been fine as number 2? Or even ready??

I certainly heard that there was a bit more to the move than we just decided he wasn’t good enough. My source isn’t good enough to say more, and there was nothing untoward involved.

The impression I got was that Teddy wanted more game time and Nigel found it awkward. Middlesbrough fans must be glad Steve Gibson didn’t have any similar trouble with Ben.