Injury watch 2021/22

[YorkshireRoyal99]

I would say this summer is the last chance for Moore to make a decent move i.e. to a decent Championship side, so he may well be inclined to make it happen.

If he stays and essentially sits out a year then the options for a then 30 yo CB with known injury issues will be limited even as a free transfer.

Question remains if we could afford to not select him next year if we are unable to move him on. Having 35k pw (or whatever it actually is) not playing is wasting a massive chunk of our available budget.

If we can't move him on, we may as well use him. For all of his criticisms, he obviously isn't a bad player when he plays well, or even when he's just average, he's still a good player at this level.

We have to move him on simply because of what he costs. If his wages were a third-ish of what he is earning, I'd be wanting to keep hold of him for sure. It's just unfortunate for him our situation is such where we can't really afford to keep him on.

[Snowflake Royal]

I would say this summer is the last chance for Moore to make a decent move i.e. to a decent Championship side, so he may well be inclined to make it happen.

If he stays and essentially sits out a year then the options for a then 30 yo CB with known injury issues will be limited even as a free transfer.

Question remains if we could afford to not select him next year if we are unable to move him on. Having 35k pw (or whatever it actually is) not playing is wasting a massive chunk of our available budget.

He's toxic to us, we're most certainly toxic to him and I think we have better CB options available. You'd pick the team on merit and he doesn’t get in it even with our defensive frailties imo.

The only thing he has going is that he's our quickest CB, Thomas aside, but he's not quick. And he's not a good marker.

[Sutekh]

The only thing he has going is that he's our quickest CB, Thomas aside, but he's not quick. And he's not a good marker.

Perhaps this should be the back 4 tonight then

[Hound]

I would say this summer is the last chance for Moore to make a decent move i.e. to a decent Championship side, so he may well be inclined to make it happen.

If he stays and essentially sits out a year then the options for a then 30 yo CB with known injury issues will be limited even as a free transfer.

Question remains if we could afford to not select him next year if we are unable to move him on. Having 35k pw (or whatever it actually is) not playing is wasting a massive chunk of our available budget.

If we can't move him on, we may as well use him. For all of his criticisms, he obviously isn't a bad player when he plays well, or even when he's just average, he's still a good player at this level.

We have to move him on simply because of what he costs. If his wages were a third-ish of what he is earning, I'd be wanting to keep hold of him for sure. It's just unfortunate for him our situation is such where we can't really afford to keep him on.

Don’t think he is anymore than barely adequate at this level now tbh

Even if we have to pay off 80% of his contract we should do. It does nobody any good him still being here

[YorkshireRoyal99]

I would say this summer is the last chance for Moore to make a decent move i.e. to a decent Championship side, so he may well be inclined to make it happen.

If he stays and essentially sits out a year then the options for a then 30 yo CB with known injury issues will be limited even as a free transfer.

Question remains if we could afford to not select him next year if we are unable to move him on. Having 35k pw (or whatever it actually is) not playing is wasting a massive chunk of our available budget.

If we can't move him on, we may as well use him. For all of his criticisms, he obviously isn't a bad player when he plays well, or even when he's just average, he's still a good player at this level.

We have to move him on simply because of what he costs. If his wages were a third-ish of what he is earning, I'd be wanting to keep hold of him for sure. It's just unfortunate for him our situation is such where we can't really afford to keep him on.

Don’t think he is anymore than barely adequate at this level now tbh

Even if we have to pay off 80% of his contract we should do. It does nobody any good him still being here

Not sure I completely agree personally in terms of his ability, I'd still say he's a good Championship-level defender.

[Hound]

18 months ago I’d agree

I thought he looked really poor this season tbh. Admittedly certain things didn’t help him

[Mid Sussex Royal]

Midfield looks light now with Rino out, Swift 2-3 weeks and TDB having a scan this week.

And where was Dann yesterday?

[Pepe the Horseman]

Scott Dann out for the season. Incredible that whoever's making the decisions thought he was worth a new contract.

[NathStPaul]

Scott Dann out for the season. Incredible that whoever's making the decisions thought he was worth a new contract.

Yep, waste of time and money. Would much rather have brought in a young CB this summer who had been released from a Premier League academy.

[hughsies no.1]

Halilovic not available again (despite coming out a few weeks back saying he is ready) - reading between the lines, must have some sort of clause in his deal where if he plays a certain number of games it will trigger another year deal, also wouldn't be surprised if that is what happened with Dann. My best guess is we will not see him again this season playing,

[Zip]

Halilovic not available again (despite coming out a few weeks back saying he is ready) - reading between the lines, must have some sort of clause in his deal where if he plays a certain number of games it will trigger another year deal, also wouldn't be surprised if that is what happened with Dann. My best guess is we will not see him again this season playing,

Halilovic was injured again after saying he ready to play. You couldn’t make it up.

So updated injury list

Dann
Araruna
Tetek
Halilovic
Rinomhota
Swift
TDB?


Meite sounds like he may be on the bench for Friday which is some much needed good news. I am assuming TMac is ok.

Ince saying Swift might make the bench for Friday which would be very good news.
With Yaks back we wouldn’t be too badly off.

[Sutekh]

Halilovic not available again (despite coming out a few weeks back saying he is ready) - reading between the lines, must have some sort of clause in his deal where if he plays a certain number of games it will trigger another year deal, also wouldn't be surprised if that is what happened with Dann. My best guess is we will not see him again this season playing,

Halilovic was injured again after saying he ready to play. You couldn’t make it up.

So updated injury list

Dann
Araruna
Tetek
Halilovic
Rinomhota
Swift
TDB?


Meite sounds like he may be on the bench for Friday which is some much needed good news. I am assuming TMac is ok.

So will Dann be “Paul Ince injured” (told out for season, but actually back after a week) or “Veljko Paunovic injured” (told out for season but actually not back until 2023).

Think I prefer Paul Ince’s interpretation myself.

[Snowflake Royal]

Scott Dann out for the season. Incredible that whoever's making the decisions thought he was worth a new contract.

Yep, waste of time and money. Would much rather have brought in a young CB this summer who had been released from a Premier League academy.

He wasn't even getting on the pitch when he was fit.

Another one in the 'we've learnt oxf*rd all' column.

[Zip]

Scott Dann out for the season. Incredible that whoever's making the decisions thought he was worth a new contract.

Yep, waste of time and money. Would much rather have brought in a young CB this summer who had been released from a Premier League academy.

He wasn't even getting on the pitch when he was fit.

Another one in the 'we've learnt oxf*rd all' column.

Would have been better off giving Dorsett a new deal.

[Snowflake Royal]

Yep, waste of time and money. Would much rather have brought in a young CB this summer who had been released from a Premier League academy.

He wasn't even getting on the pitch when he was fit.

Another one in the 'we've learnt oxf*rd all' column.

Would have been better off giving Dorsett a new deal.

It's bonkers. He's 35 now ffs. At least we didn’t give him a 5 year deal on big wages.

[Hendo]

He wasn't even getting on the pitch when he was fit.

Another one in the 'we've learnt oxf*rd all' column.

Would have been better off giving Dorsett a new deal.

It's bonkers. He's 35 now ffs. At least we didn’t give him a 5 year deal on big wages.

No more bonkers than signing John O'Shea. Would argue that Dann is probably better than JO'S was when he played for us, certainly no worse.

He might be here to work on his badges as well, like JO'S, and if it is low wages then I really don't see it being a huge issue.

[Snowflake Royal]

Would have been better off giving Dorsett a new deal.

It's bonkers. He's 35 now ffs. At least we didn’t give him a 5 year deal on big wages.

No more bonkers than signing John O'Shea. Would argue that Dann is probably better than JO'S was when he played for us, certainly no worse.

He might be here to work on his badges as well, like JO'S, and if it is low wages then I really don't see it being a huge issue.

John O'Shea was a shit playing signing too.

But at least we didn’t give him another year when he wasn't playing and missed a large part of the season. And we weren't as restricted on the squad.

[Zip]

Would have been better off giving Dorsett a new deal.

It's bonkers. He's 35 now ffs. At least we didn’t give him a 5 year deal on big wages.

No more bonkers than signing John O'Shea. Would argue that Dann is probably better than JO'S was when he played for us, certainly no worse.

He might be here to work on his badges as well, like JO'S, and if it is low wages then I really don't see it being a huge issue.

Dorsett is the future and out of contract. Rochdale fans think he is destined for much bigger things. He should be a priority over Dann otherwise we will lose him the summer.
We desperately need more pace at centre back.

[NathStPaul]

Would have been better off giving Dorsett a new deal.

It's bonkers. He's 35 now ffs. At least we didn’t give him a 5 year deal on big wages.

No more bonkers than signing John O'Shea. Would argue that Dann is probably better than JO'S was when he played for us, certainly no worse.

He might be here to work on his badges as well, like JO'S, and if it is low wages then I really don't see it being a huge issue.

We don't really need coaches imo. We need young, fit and healthy players who are ready to play. Dann absolutely should have gone, even if he's only on a few grand a week. That's a few grand that could be spent on a released player from a Premier League clubs academy. That's the sort of players we should be looking at imo.

[Hendo]

It's bonkers. He's 35 now ffs. At least we didn’t give him a 5 year deal on big wages.

No more bonkers than signing John O'Shea. Would argue that Dann is probably better than JO'S was when he played for us, certainly no worse.

He might be here to work on his badges as well, like JO'S, and if it is low wages then I really don't see it being a huge issue.

Dorsett is the future and out of contract. Rochdale fans think he is destined for much bigger things. He should be a priority over Dann otherwise we will lose him the summer.
We desperately need more pace at centre back.

What if they're still trying to work out a contract for him? Just because nothing has been announced, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

What if he actually isn't very good?

I've not seen him play so can't really comment, but I think in a season where we're likely to struggle I'd want as many players I knew I could rely upon, especially in defence, than just throwing the kids in. Dann will be a good head in the dressing room as well. If they give Dorsett a new contract with the view of starting next season and he's gash people will start to jump on him and the club, very quickly.