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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by Sutekh » 23 Jan 2022 08:50

Delboy Yes a better performance, only one game in the next 3 weeks so should have a nearly full squad except Meite. But I have NO confidence in Pauno ability we have the worst defence in the division, need an experienced manager , but no confidence the Chinese will make a change . Sleepwalking to division 1 as it stands .


3 games in the next 3 weeks (but 1 game in next 2.5 weeks):

29th Jan v QPR
09th Feb v Bristol
12th Feb v Coventry

Peterborough have worst defence in the division as have shipped the same number of goals as Reading but from 2 fewer games.

Hoping the “management” keep with two up front and really hoping Carroll decides to rejoin for the season as that could really get the club over the line, particularly if Reading do persist with 2 strikers.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by leon » 23 Jan 2022 09:45

We lost. We conceded 4 at home. There is quite a bit of delusion going on here.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by blythspartan » 23 Jan 2022 10:07

We were certainly better than against Luton but we still shipped 4 goals. I thought Puscas looked like a different player and Rino was a machine. We are really struggling with our fitness levels, which worries me a lot.

We need a new manager/defensive coach who can organise the defence as we’re way to open. There seems to be a fair bit of optimism on here after just one improved performance and let’s face it the benchmark wasn’t too high.

I am not sure how many points we’ll need for survival but say at best we win 6 more games that’s only 40 points, along with a few more for draws. If we finish this season like we did last season when we arguably had a better squad we’ll be relegated. Also, now that Carroll looks to be off to Bournemouth we are really relying on Joao staying fit which is a big ask based on his current injury record.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by hughsies no.1 » 23 Jan 2022 10:53

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What the f*ck are you on about?


A committed player and last seasons Laurent would have made more of an effort to stop that shot, sliding in - but it’s almost like he baulked the challenge

https://twitter.com/skybetchamp/status/ ... 33668?s=21

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by South Coast Royal » 23 Jan 2022 10:58

leon We lost. We conceded 4 at home. There is quite a bit of delusion going on here.


Agreed.
Who are all these great players who are going to come back and make everything better?
Meite is likely out for the season; we have Ejaria returning one day and then........................................................?

We have full-backs who don't have much idea about defending but , in the case of Rahman he is excellent going forward and Yiadom who has great energy and determination but regrettably can't cross a ball.

So, after yesterday it is clear that we just have to score as many as we can and hope to outscore the opposition.

Great to see Joao back and see what a good all-round striker can do, especially holding up play and controlling the ball which sadly Puscas is dire at doing.

Can we afford to play 2 up front?
Yes, because we will probably score goals whereas with one up front we don't score enough and have still conceded many and lost!!
One up front is fine if midfielders bust a gut to get forward and defenders can defend-that doesn't happen with us as the lone striker is so often the alone striker with no support.

On Drinkwater, so slow for the first 70 minutes but when (amazingly) he was kept on he was our best player probably because the pace of the game had slowed so much.

Like others, I left the game disappointed but not angry.
BTW how refreshing an attacking side were Huddersfield who, unfortunately were worthy winners but could well have scored as many as Fulham.


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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by CountryRoyal » 23 Jan 2022 10:59

leon We lost. We conceded 4 at home. There is quite a bit of delusion going on here.


This.

I think it’s indicative of just how shit we’ve been recently, that people can come away from yesterday feeling positive. :lol:

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by Zip » 23 Jan 2022 11:01

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Royal Ginger Laurent clearly doesn’t want to be here anymore.


What the f*ck are you on about?


A committed player and last seasons Laurent would have made more of an effort to stop that shot, sliding in - but it’s almost like he baulked the challenge

https://twitter.com/skybetchamp/status/ ... 33668?s=21


Glad you posted that. Forget Laurent. That goal is all about Holmes. Totally beaten in the air and far too slow to recover and lost his man who then scores. Absolutely dreadful defending.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by Zip » 23 Jan 2022 11:03

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leon We lost. We conceded 4 at home. There is quite a bit of delusion going on here.


This.

I think it’s indicative of just how shit we’ve been recently, that people can come away from yesterday feeling positive. :lol:


Agreed but we have been so dire that just scoring a goal felt like such a relief yesterday. Our home record is a disgrace again.
Two huge concerns.

We cannot defend. Holmes and Southwood are both really struggling now.

Our fitness levels are appalling and not improving.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by Zip » 23 Jan 2022 11:08

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leon We lost. We conceded 4 at home. There is quite a bit of delusion going on here.


Agreed.
Who are all these great players who are going to come back and make everything better?
Meite is likely out for the season; we have Ejaria returning one day and then........................................................?

We have full-backs who don't have much idea about defending but , in the case of Rahman he is excellent going forward and Yiadom who has great energy and determination but regrettably can't cross a ball.

So, after yesterday it is clear that we just have to score as many as we can and hope to outscore the opposition.

Great to see Joao back and see what a good all-round striker can do, especially holding up play and controlling the ball which sadly Puscas is dire at doing.

Can we afford to play 2 up front?
Yes, because we will probably score goals whereas with one up front we don't score enough and have still conceded many and lost!!
One up front is fine if midfielders bust a gut to get forward and defenders can defend-that doesn't happen with us as the lone striker is so often the alone striker with no support.

On Drinkwater, so slow for the first 70 minutes but when (amazingly) he was kept on he was our best player probably because the pace of the game had slowed so much.

Like others, I left the game disappointed but not angry.
BTW how refreshing an attacking side were Huddersfield who, unfortunately were worthy winners but could well have scored as many as Fulham.



Huddersfield were great for the first 25 minutes and looked like scoring every time but thereafter they created very little.

Yids is decent defensively but I’m glad you agree he cannot cross. I have been saying this for two years!
Rahman is very poor defensively. Too easily beaten on the outside but decent going forward.

Drinkwater was awful in the first half but much improved after the break. Very poor from Pauno to bring on Hoilett but not play him on the wing. We were crying out for him to play there.

Swift had two assists but his complete unwillingness to put in any tackles or close down was appalling.


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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by Vicky Pollard » 23 Jan 2022 11:29

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What the f*ck are you on about?


A committed player and last seasons Laurent would have made more of an effort to stop that shot, sliding in - but it’s almost like he baulked the challenge

https://twitter.com/skybetchamp/status/ ... 33668?s=21


Glad you posted that. Forget Laurent. That goal is all about Holmes. Totally beaten in the air and far too slow to recover and lost his man who then scores. Absolutely dreadful defending.


Interesting as I noticed Drinkwater's half arsed attempt to make a tackle in there. So that's at least 3 players with a pathetic effort to challenge the ball.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by Hound » 23 Jan 2022 11:29

Not sure Huddersfield were much cop tbh. Defensively rubbish first half (Morro ridiculously free for our third) and I can only remember them having one other chance bar the goals - 1 of which was a lucky deflection, one abysmal defending in our box, one an absolute howler from Southwood and the last was a nice strike, but again awful defending and it sat up just right for him

They were just another ok side to stroll up and take the 3 points with little fuss

Regarding crossing - wouldn’t say Yiadom ‘can’t cross’. He certainly isn’t great at it, but it seems he has been told to lay it back more than cross

The other issue, along with the rest of our style of play, rather than try to hit a nice quick cross on the run, we seem obsessed with playing fancy triangles on the wing waiting for a ‘perfect’ crossing opportunity. And waiting for the defence to totally reorganise - leaving the crosser needing to put in a Beckham-Esque cross to pick out a man

Much rather just hit something towards the penalty spot quickly - and surely Joao, Puscas and when we had Carroll, would have had far more success from it

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by Hound » 23 Jan 2022 11:32

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A committed player and last seasons Laurent would have made more of an effort to stop that shot, sliding in - but it’s almost like he baulked the challenge

https://twitter.com/skybetchamp/status/ ... 33668?s=21


Glad you posted that. Forget Laurent. That goal is all about Holmes. Totally beaten in the air and far too slow to recover and lost his man who then scores. Absolutely dreadful defending.


Interesting as I noticed Drinkwater's half arsed attempt to make a tackle in there. So that's at least 3 players with a pathetic effort to challenge the ball.


That goal is absolutely shameful. 2 attackers, 6 defenders, a long ball from a free kick way back in their own half, and not one of our guys anywhere near it. Awful awful awful stuff.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by South Coast Royal » 23 Jan 2022 11:40

Hound Not sure Huddersfield were much cop tbh. Defensively rubbish first half (Morro ridiculously free for our third) and I can only remember them having one other chance bar the goals - 1 of which was a lucky deflection, one abysmal defending in our box, one an absolute howler from Southwood and the last was a nice strike, but again awful defending and it sat up just right for him

They were just another ok side to stroll up and take the 3 points with little fuss

Regarding crossing - wouldn’t say Yiadom ‘can’t cross’. He certainly isn’t great at it, but it seems he has been told to lay it back more than cross

The other issue, along with the rest of our style of play, rather than try to hit a nice quick cross on the run, we seem obsessed with playing fancy triangles on the wing waiting for a ‘perfect’ crossing opportunity. And waiting for the defence to totally reorganise - leaving the crosser needing to put in a Beckham-Esque cross to pick out a man

Much rather just hit something towards the penalty spot quickly - and surely Joao, Puscas and when we had Carroll, would have had far more success from it


Disagree on Huddersfield being not much cop.
Apart from scoring 4 away from home we made at least 3 last ditch blocks in that crazy first half that could have led to goals and they really should have got a 5th when breaking clear in the second half.

I thought they were refreshing to watch with their speedy approach play in the first half and playing at that pace were bound to tire.

Will watch their results now with a bit more interest .


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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by Snowflake Royal » 23 Jan 2022 11:41

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What the f*ck are you on about?


A committed player and last seasons Laurent would have made more of an effort to stop that shot, sliding in - but it’s almost like he baulked the challenge

https://twitter.com/skybetchamp/status/ ... 33668?s=21

That's nonsense.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by South Coast Royal » 23 Jan 2022 11:44

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Hound Not sure Huddersfield were much cop tbh. Defensively rubbish first half (Morro ridiculously free for our third) and I can only remember them having one other chance bar the goals - 1 of which was a lucky deflection, one abysmal defending in our box, one an absolute howler from Southwood and the last was a nice strike, but again awful defending and it sat up just right for him

They were just another ok side to stroll up and take the 3 points with little fuss

Regarding crossing - wouldn’t say Yiadom ‘can’t cross’. He certainly isn’t great at it, but it seems he has been told to lay it back more than cross

The other issue, along with the rest of our style of play, rather than try to hit a nice quick cross on the run, we seem obsessed with playing fancy triangles on the wing waiting for a ‘perfect’ crossing opportunity. And waiting for the defence to totally reorganise - leaving the crosser needing to put in a Beckham-Esque cross to pick out a man

Much rather just hit something towards the penalty spot quickly - and surely Joao, Puscas and when we had Carroll, would have had far more success from it


Disagree on Huddersfield being not much cop.
Apart from scoring 4 away from home we made at least 3 last ditch blocks in that crazy first half that could have led to goals and they really should have got a 5th when breaking clear in the second half.

I thought they were refreshing to watch with their speedy approach play in the first half and playing at that pace were bound to tire.

Will watch their results now with a bit more interest .


BTW 7 of their 37 league goals this season have been scored against one team. :cry: :cry:

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by Hound » 23 Jan 2022 11:45

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Hound Not sure Huddersfield were much cop tbh. Defensively rubbish first half (Morro ridiculously free for our third) and I can only remember them having one other chance bar the goals - 1 of which was a lucky deflection, one abysmal defending in our box, one an absolute howler from Southwood and the last was a nice strike, but again awful defending and it sat up just right for him

They were just another ok side to stroll up and take the 3 points with little fuss

Regarding crossing - wouldn’t say Yiadom ‘can’t cross’. He certainly isn’t great at it, but it seems he has been told to lay it back more than cross

The other issue, along with the rest of our style of play, rather than try to hit a nice quick cross on the run, we seem obsessed with playing fancy triangles on the wing waiting for a ‘perfect’ crossing opportunity. And waiting for the defence to totally reorganise - leaving the crosser needing to put in a Beckham-Esque cross to pick out a man

Much rather just hit something towards the penalty spot quickly - and surely Joao, Puscas and when we had Carroll, would have had far more success from it


Disagree on Huddersfield being not much cop.
Apart from scoring 4 away from home we made at least 3 last ditch blocks in that crazy first half that could have led to goals and they really should have got a 5th when breaking clear in the second half.

I thought they were refreshing to watch with their speedy approach play in the first half and playing at that pace were bound to tire.

Will watch their results now with a bit more interest .


Interesting. Didn’t think too much to them at all. The managed the game well but we showed so little urgency anyway

Weren’t a patch on Say Blackpool who pinged the ball around excellently. Surprised they aren’t higher actually.

I think most of those crazy last ditch blocks were either on their second goal or because we’d just given the ball to them outside our box. Genuinely don’t remember them ‘creating’ anything other than that 1 on 1 in the second half.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by Snowflake Royal » 23 Jan 2022 11:48

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leon We lost. We conceded 4 at home. There is quite a bit of delusion going on here.


This.

I think it’s indicative of just how shit we’ve been recently, that people can come away from yesterday feeling positive. :lol:

It's not about the result or even performance so much.

It's that against Luton, we didn't even really try. But against Udders, you could see the energy and desire, if not the application.

Joao showed real quality and finished. Puscas played so much better with a partner and finished well. Rinomhota continued to be non-stop. Morrison wasn't really at fault and gives us a decent experienced defender.

There are still gaping huge problems, but there were signs recovery is possible.

We aren't going to concede 4 every game, and we can now have some hope of scoring a few goals. And most importantly of trying.

Pauno actually changed things. He's still dire. But there are clear signs that whilst we're halfway through digging our grave, we can still climb out, we don't just have to lie down and die in it. Someone new, with fresh ideas, could get us performing.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by Snowflake Royal » 23 Jan 2022 11:50

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leon We lost. We conceded 4 at home. There is quite a bit of delusion going on here.


Agreed.
Who are all these great players who are going to come back and make everything better?
Meite is likely out for the season; we have Ejaria returning one day and then........................................................?

We have full-backs who don't have much idea about defending but , in the case of Rahman he is excellent going forward and Yiadom who has great energy and determination but regrettably can't cross a ball.

So, after yesterday it is clear that we just have to score as many as we can and hope to outscore the opposition.

Great to see Joao back and see what a good all-round striker can do, especially holding up play and controlling the ball which sadly Puscas is dire at doing.

Can we afford to play 2 up front?
Yes, because we will probably score goals whereas with one up front we don't score enough and have still conceded many and lost!!
One up front is fine if midfielders bust a gut to get forward and defenders can defend-that doesn't happen with us as the lone striker is so often the alone striker with no support.

On Drinkwater, so slow for the first 70 minutes but when (amazingly) he was kept on he was our best player probably because the pace of the game had slowed so much.

Like others, I left the game disappointed but not angry.
BTW how refreshing an attacking side were Huddersfield who, unfortunately were worthy winners but could well have scored as many as Fulham.



Huddersfield were great for the first 25 minutes and looked like scoring every time but thereafter they created very little.

Yids is decent defensively but I’m glad you agree he cannot cross. I have been saying this for two years!
Rahman is very poor defensively. Too easily beaten on the outside but decent going forward.

Drinkwater was awful in the first half but much improved after the break. Very poor from Pauno to bring on Hoilett but not play him on the wing. We were crying out for him to play there.

Swift had two assists but his complete unwillingness to put in any tackles or close down was appalling.

Can you get an assist for an OG, no way that was Morro's goal.

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by Zip » 23 Jan 2022 11:55

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Agreed.
Who are all these great players who are going to come back and make everything better?
Meite is likely out for the season; we have Ejaria returning one day and then........................................................?

We have full-backs who don't have much idea about defending but , in the case of Rahman he is excellent going forward and Yiadom who has great energy and determination but regrettably can't cross a ball.

So, after yesterday it is clear that we just have to score as many as we can and hope to outscore the opposition.

Great to see Joao back and see what a good all-round striker can do, especially holding up play and controlling the ball which sadly Puscas is dire at doing.

Can we afford to play 2 up front?
Yes, because we will probably score goals whereas with one up front we don't score enough and have still conceded many and lost!!
One up front is fine if midfielders bust a gut to get forward and defenders can defend-that doesn't happen with us as the lone striker is so often the alone striker with no support.

On Drinkwater, so slow for the first 70 minutes but when (amazingly) he was kept on he was our best player probably because the pace of the game had slowed so much.

Like others, I left the game disappointed but not angry.
BTW how refreshing an attacking side were Huddersfield who, unfortunately were worthy winners but could well have scored as many as Fulham.



Huddersfield were great for the first 25 minutes and looked like scoring every time but thereafter they created very little.

Yids is decent defensively but I’m glad you agree he cannot cross. I have been saying this for two years!
Rahman is very poor defensively. Too easily beaten on the outside but decent going forward.

Drinkwater was awful in the first half but much improved after the break. Very poor from Pauno to bring on Hoilett but not play him on the wing. We were crying out for him to play there.

Swift had two assists but his complete unwillingness to put in any tackles or close down was appalling.

Can you get an assist for an OG, no way that was Morro's goal.



Morrison assist then?

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Re: BFTG - Huddersfield

by windermereROYAL » 23 Jan 2022 11:55

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Hound Not sure Huddersfield were much cop tbh. Defensively rubbish first half (Morro ridiculously free for our third) and I can only remember them having one other chance bar the goals - 1 of which was a lucky deflection, one abysmal defending in our box, one an absolute howler from Southwood and the last was a nice strike, but again awful defending and it sat up just right for him

They were just another ok side to stroll up and take the 3 points with little fuss

Regarding crossing - wouldn’t say Yiadom ‘can’t cross’. He certainly isn’t great at it, but it seems he has been told to lay it back more than cross

The other issue, along with the rest of our style of play, rather than try to hit a nice quick cross on the run, we seem obsessed with playing fancy triangles on the wing waiting for a ‘perfect’ crossing opportunity. And waiting for the defence to totally reorganise - leaving the crosser needing to put in a Beckham-Esque cross to pick out a man

Much rather just hit something towards the penalty spot quickly - and surely Joao, Puscas and when we had Carroll, would have had far more success from it


Disagree on Huddersfield being not much cop.
Apart from scoring 4 away from home we made at least 3 last ditch blocks in that crazy first half that could have led to goals and they really should have got a 5th when breaking clear in the second half.

I thought they were refreshing to watch with their speedy approach play in the first half and playing at that pace were bound to tire.

Will watch their results now with a bit more interest .




BTW 7 of their 37 league goals this season have been scored against one team. :cry: :cry:


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