Injury watch 2022/23

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 09 Dec 2022 12:02

windermereROYAL Tom Mac 50/50 Hutch not available- why i don`t now, assuming still injured, Sarr still not ready. Moore another 4 weeks, Dann should be get a run out with the U23s next week. Azeez should be involved. Lumley fit.
So much for the WC break to get everybody fit again


I think both TMac and Hutch are calf issues, which would go alongside what Ince was mentioning the other day. So that's 5 of our senior CB's potentially out of this game (4 minimum) after we've had a few weeks to get some players back up to speed.

Looks like the back 3 for Saturday will be Yiadom, Holmes and Mbengue with Hoilett and Rahman likely to be at wing back.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Hound » 09 Dec 2022 12:42

Poor stuff

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Snowflake Royal » 09 Dec 2022 15:11

Is anyone actually surprised though?

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Hound » 09 Dec 2022 15:31

I’d have been more surprised if it wasn’t the case

Amuses me just a little bit that Dann could be the first one back fit. Obvs that won’t last long either

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Zip » 09 Dec 2022 17:26

No I'm not surprised. Its utterly woeful that we still have a centre back crisis
Players have clearly been injured in training again. When will they ever learn?


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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Snowflake Royal » 09 Dec 2022 23:13

To be fair, Sarr is the only one you'd not automatically expect a set back and he was always not that close.

McIntyre is a perpetual injury worry. Dann is ancient and Moore has been collecting injury concerns like top trumps for about 4 years.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 11 Dec 2022 17:04

Holmes is obviously a pretty big loss but with Sarr, Hutchinson and TMac* coming back in, at least it seems like we've got some numbers there. Not holding my breath about keeping them all fit until the New Year though.

We can afford the odd knock when we have everybody fit, we just can't really afford 2/3 at a time.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by morganb » 14 Dec 2022 16:12

INCE PRESSER

- Sam Hutchinson won't be ready for Bham on Friday
- Tom Holmes also out for Friday (concussion)
- Ovie Ejaria has a knee injury, 2-3 weeks out
- Scott Dann MAY be involved on Friday having played an hour for the U21s on Monday
- McIntyre and Sarr fine for Birmingham

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 14 Dec 2022 17:08

So it looks like TMac and/or Sarr are coming back into the XI, with the other being on the bench alongside Dann potentially (assuming both don't start which they might do).

Hutch and Holmes have plenty of time for Swansea at home then along with Dann as well, so that looks more promising and then whoever picks up an injury during that time.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Royals and Racers » 14 Dec 2022 18:20

YorkshireRoyal99 So it looks like TMac and/or Sarr are coming back into the XI, with the other being on the bench alongside Dann potentially (assuming both don't start which they might do).

Hutch and Holmes have plenty of time for Swansea at home then along with Dann as well, so that looks more promising and then whoever picks up an injury during that time.

Can see both starting on Friday- TMac and Sarr.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Zip » 14 Dec 2022 21:04

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YorkshireRoyal99 So it looks like TMac and/or Sarr are coming back into the XI, with the other being on the bench alongside Dann potentially (assuming both don't start which they might do).

Hutch and Holmes have plenty of time for Swansea at home then along with Dann as well, so that looks more promising and then whoever picks up an injury during that time.

Can see both starting on Friday- TMac and Sarr.


I think TMac will be on the bench with Sarr, Mbengue and Yids as the back three.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Crowbar6753 » 14 Dec 2022 23:00

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YorkshireRoyal99 So it looks like TMac and/or Sarr are coming back into the XI, with the other being on the bench alongside Dann potentially (assuming both don't start which they might do).

Hutch and Holmes have plenty of time for Swansea at home then along with Dann as well, so that looks more promising and then whoever picks up an injury during that time.

Can see both starting on Friday- TMac and Sarr.


I think TMac will be on the bench with Sarr, Mbengue and Yids as the back three.


We could lose Sarr, Mbengue and McIntyre through injury and Ince would still persist on a back three of Fornah, Meite and Carroll lol!!!! I'm so over this back three lark... :cry: :cry:
None of our two up top pairings seem to work together and we have no attacking threat whatsoever...change to a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 please, please!!!!!


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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Zip » 14 Dec 2022 23:36

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Royals and Racers Can see both starting on Friday- TMac and Sarr.


I think TMac will be on the bench with Sarr, Mbengue and Yids as the back three.


We could lose Sarr, Mbengue and McIntyre through injury and Ince would still persist on a back three of Fornah, Meite and Carroll lol!!!! I'm so over this back three lark... :cry: :cry:
None of our two up top pairings seem to work together and we have no attacking threat whatsoever...change to a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 please, please!!!!!


Agreed but Ince sets us up not to lose so will persist with the formation.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 15 Dec 2022 08:40

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Royals and Racers Can see both starting on Friday- TMac and Sarr.


I think TMac will be on the bench with Sarr, Mbengue and Yids as the back three.


We could lose Sarr, Mbengue and McIntyre through injury and Ince would still persist on a back three of Fornah, Meite and Carroll lol!!!! I'm so over this back three lark... :cry: :cry:
None of our two up top pairings seem to work together and we have no attacking threat whatsoever...change to a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 please, please!!!!!


Selection will always been done based off reasons we don't know. I'm sure Sarr will start for his aerial ability, but wouldn't be massively surprised because he's played what, 2 games and about 20 minutes in 6 months? Not including friendlies (however many he played in) and any U21 games he's featured in. He didn't get a pre-season with us and was injured almost immediately as well, so he probably does need to get up to speed.

It will be Yiadom - Mbengue - Sarr I think, think TMac might drop to the bench for this one.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Crowbar6753 » 15 Dec 2022 15:38

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I think TMac will be on the bench with Sarr, Mbengue and Yids as the back three.


We could lose Sarr, Mbengue and McIntyre through injury and Ince would still persist on a back three of Fornah, Meite and Carroll lol!!!! I'm so over this back three lark... :cry: :cry:
None of our two up top pairings seem to work together and we have no attacking threat whatsoever...change to a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 please, please!!!!!


Agreed but Ince sets us up not to lose so will persist with the formation.


Ince hinted today that he may revert back to a favored 4-3-3 formation as soon as his big hitters in defense are back and fit, thus making us a bit more creative!! Music to my ears this :D :D

Maybe something like this:

Lumley

Yids Holmes Sarr Babba

Fornah Hutchinson Hendrick

Meite Carroll Ince

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by URZZZZ » 15 Dec 2022 15:52

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We could lose Sarr, Mbengue and McIntyre through injury and Ince would still persist on a back three of Fornah, Meite and Carroll lol!!!! I'm so over this back three lark... :cry: :cry:
None of our two up top pairings seem to work together and we have no attacking threat whatsoever...change to a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 please, please!!!!!


Agreed but Ince sets us up not to lose so will persist with the formation.


Ince hinted today that he may revert back to a favored 4-3-3 formation as soon as his big hitters in defense are back and fit, thus making us a bit more creative!! Music to my ears this :D :D

Maybe something like this:

Lumley

Yids Holmes Sarr Babba

Fornah Hutchinson Hendrick

Meite Carroll Ince


You are aware that we are 8th? It can’t be that bad a formation. There was a period where it looked a little stale but it’s done us good on the whole. That team looks remarkably similar to the last few seasons’ failures of being too narrow (Ince and Meite would spent a fair portion of the game tucked in)

Also, you’re aware that team is virtually the exact same as what we’ve been doing, with the exception of Hutch pushing up. I’d question how that makes us more creative. Infact losing Hoilett would probably reduce how much we create

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Zip » 15 Dec 2022 15:52

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We could lose Sarr, Mbengue and McIntyre through injury and Ince would still persist on a back three of Fornah, Meite and Carroll lol!!!! I'm so over this back three lark... :cry: :cry:
None of our two up top pairings seem to work together and we have no attacking threat whatsoever...change to a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 please, please!!!!!


Agreed but Ince sets us up not to lose so will persist with the formation.


Ince hinted today that he may revert back to a favored 4-3-3 formation as soon as his big hitters in defense are back and fit, thus making us a bit more creative!! Music to my ears this :D :D

Maybe something like this:

Lumley

Yids Holmes Sarr Babba

Fornah Hutchinson Hendrick

Meite Carroll Ince


I don't think that will be far away from the starting line up when Hutchinson is back but I do like Mbengue and would like to see him involved.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 15 Dec 2022 16:13

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We could lose Sarr, Mbengue and McIntyre through injury and Ince would still persist on a back three of Fornah, Meite and Carroll lol!!!! I'm so over this back three lark... :cry: :cry:
None of our two up top pairings seem to work together and we have no attacking threat whatsoever...change to a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 please, please!!!!!


Agreed but Ince sets us up not to lose so will persist with the formation.


Ince hinted today that he may revert back to a favored 4-3-3 formation as soon as his big hitters in defense are back and fit, thus making us a bit more creative!! Music to my ears this :D :D

Maybe something like this:

Lumley

Yids Holmes Sarr Babba

Fornah Hutchinson Hendrick

Meite Carroll Ince


I'd be a bit reluctant to change what has been a successful system and formation for us all season. I think we have the personnel available to play the way we do and, whilst I don't think it should be our long-term way of playing, in the current climate let's stick with what works and continue to build some consistency rather than start chopping and changing. We can experiment if/when we get safe.

That's the only issue I've ever got with having options, a good scenario to have selection headaches and changing how we can play, but if we start chopping and changing because something doesn't quite work one game, we will end up with confusing messages being addressed to the players and a lack of consistency. For our faults this season, we cannot complain about a lack of consistency with how we play.

I think the most important factor for me is finding that balance between consistency and changing it and understanding when to do so.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Sutekh » 15 Dec 2022 16:33

Current revision:

Name - Injury - Current expected return

  1. DANN, Scott - Calf - Birmingham (a)
  2. EJARIA, Ovie - Knee - Watford (h)
  3. HOLMES, Tom - Concussion - Swansea (h)
  4. HUTCHINSON, Sam - Calf - Swansea (h)
  5. MOORE, Liam - Knees - Stoke (a)
  6. TETEK, Dejan - Hamstring - Swansea (h)

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