Injury watch 2022/23

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by SCIAG » 04 Aug 2022 13:48

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SCIAG On one hand, yes, at first glance this looks awful and I’m not in a position to say why it is happening. Some of it is probably down to the players having fragile bodies but without inside knowledge it’s very hard to say.

Does seem strange that the club is being implicitly criticised for things like Abbey being knocked out in an U23 game. That’s not something any medical team can control.

Who is implicitly criticising for that?

There's 8 other injuries to focus on and you bring up the one clear bad luck example.

Moore is a clear example of bad luck given he was injured playing for another club.

Four of the players have long injury records dating back to before we signed them - Joao, Dann, Hutchinson and Long. At least two of those players weren’t fit when we signed them and Long hasn’t been match fit at any point.

That leaves… Azeez and Tetek? Plus the mystery injuries?

When you group them all together as “eight injuries” it sounds awful, but when that includes an academy player who was knocked out, a player who was injured playing for another club, and three or four players who we signed knowing full well they’d often be injured, it paints a slightly different picture.

As for other clubs - Liverpool have eight players out injured, Leicester have seven, Leeds and Everton both have six (discounting suspensions and u23s). Every list I could find for the Championship only had us on two injuries, Joao and Dann, so I don’t trust them to be accurate about other clubs. That said, according to local news Sheffield United seem to be without Oli McBurnie, Chris Basham, Tommy Doyle, Jack Robinson, Adam Davies, Jack O’Connell, Enda Stevens, and Jayden Bogle. So at least two other clubs have eight senior players injured.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Zip » 04 Aug 2022 14:01

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SCIAG On one hand, yes, at first glance this looks awful and I’m not in a position to say why it is happening. Some of it is probably down to the players having fragile bodies but without inside knowledge it’s very hard to say.

Does seem strange that the club is being implicitly criticised for things like Abbey being knocked out in an U23 game. That’s not something any medical team can control.

Who is implicitly criticising for that?

There's 8 other injuries to focus on and you bring up the one clear bad luck example.

Moore is a clear example of bad luck given he was injured playing for another club.

Four of the players have long injury records dating back to before we signed them - Joao, Dann, Hutchinson and Long. At least two of those players weren’t fit when we signed them and Long hasn’t been match fit at any point.

That leaves… Azeez and Tetek? Plus the mystery injuries?

When you group them all together as “eight injuries” it sounds awful, but when that includes an academy player who was knocked out, a player who was injured playing for another club, and three or four players who we signed knowing full well they’d often be injured, it paints a slightly different picture.

As for other clubs - Liverpool have eight players out injured, Leicester have seven, Leeds and Everton both have six (discounting suspensions and u23s). Every list I could find for the Championship only had us on two injuries, Joao and Dann, so I don’t trust them to be accurate about other clubs. That said, according to local news Sheffield United seem to be without Oli McBurnie, Chris Basham, Tommy Doyle, Jack Robinson, Adam Davies, Jack O’Connell, Enda Stevens, and Jayden Bogle. So at least two other clubs have eight senior players injured.


So in other words our injuries are right up with the very worst. Again. I cannot think of another club of the 91 others with an injury record as bad as ours from the start of last season up until now.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Hound » 04 Aug 2022 14:27

Stranded Ince stating again that he feels we still don't do enough stretching and implying that some of the players are perhaps only paying it lip service rather than doing it properly, which is pretty major indictment of their professionalism if so.

He has now introduced yoga sessions twice a week as a way to improve this.


Sounds a good idea. At least something practical

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Sutekh » 04 Aug 2022 14:58

There are now 9 injuries in the squad.

Nelson Abbey - believed to be concussion, probably out of games for the next week or so
Femi Azeez - hamstring issue. 8 weeks to go.
Scott Dann - calf injury, been out for about 4 weeks so far, at least another 2 or 3 weeks to go from what I can make out
Sam Hutchinson - same as Lucas Joao (below) but unsure as to what his injury is
Lucas Joao - knee problem, at least another 2/3 weeks. So September probably before he can start a game.
Liam Moore - out essentially until the new year
Dejan Tetek - unknown what his injury is but it was reported to be a small number of weeks out rather than months

Paul Ince has apparently also advised that another 2 players have also picked up knocks (hoping 1 of them is actually Nelson Abbey so there will only be 8 injured overall) but it is currently unknown how serious the injuries are.

In addition the triallist Brandon Ormonde-Ottewill is injured but whether the club will sign him when he is fit is unknown. As he’s not signed up Reading haven’t quite reached double figures as yet.

Finally the players below are also currently unavailable for administrative reasons:

Mamadou Loum N'Diaye - waiting for international clearance, hoped will play some part v Stevenage on Tuesday
Naby Sarr - still waiting for FL approval after 2 weeks. Will need to be brought up to fitness as well so we’re probably looking at late August before getting a game (presuming the FL say yes to the deal).

As per above, Paul Ince has revealed he’s added yoga exercises into the fitness regimes for the squad in an effort to try and improve things amongst the players (hope that they are conducted under a qualified instructor).
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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Snowflake Royal » 04 Aug 2022 14:59

Stranded Ince stating again that he feels we still don't do enough stretching and implying that some of the players are perhaps only paying it lip service rather than doing it properly, which is pretty major indictment of their professionalism if so.

He has now introduced yoga sessions twice a week as a way to improve this.

Backs up my view of their prematch warm up.

Hendrick being one who noticeably wasn't stretching his quad properly at all.


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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Only one Trevor Morley » 04 Aug 2022 15:49

Can Puscas play on Saturday? I know he was playing catch up.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by SWLR » 04 Aug 2022 16:29

Only one Trevor Morley Can Puscas play on Saturday? I know he was playing catch up.

Puscas start of season at home to Cardiff... those were the days.. actually the one and only day he excelled!

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Zip » 04 Aug 2022 16:40

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Only one Trevor Morley Can Puscas play on Saturday? I know he was playing catch up.

Puscas start of season at home to Cardiff... those were the days.. actually the one and only day he excelled!


He did get a hat trick in another game

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by RG30 » 04 Aug 2022 17:00

Wigan (A) having come on as a 2nd half sub


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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by windermereROYAL » 04 Aug 2022 20:10

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Stranded Ince stating again that he feels we still don't do enough stretching and implying that some of the players are perhaps only paying it lip service rather than doing it properly, which is pretty major indictment of their professionalism if so.

He has now introduced yoga sessions twice a week as a way to improve this.

Backs up my view of their prematch warm up.

Hendrick being one who noticeably wasn't stretching his quad properly at all.


So that will be all the over 30s out injured or not match fit? :D

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Stranded » 04 Aug 2022 21:52

Slight positive in thst Hutchinson and Dann are back in training.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Zip » 04 Aug 2022 21:55

Stranded Slight positive in thst Hutchinson and Dann are back in training.



Is this a good thing?

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Stranded » 04 Aug 2022 22:03

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Stranded Slight positive in thst Hutchinson and Dann are back in training.



Is this a good thing?


Why wouldn't it be? They aren't ready for selection but if they aren't training they never will be.


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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Zip » 04 Aug 2022 22:25

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Stranded Slight positive in thst Hutchinson and Dann are back in training.



Is this a good thing?


Why wouldn't it be? They aren't ready for selection but if they aren't training they never will be.

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Its Reading FC training though so guaranteed further injuries

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Royals and Racers » 05 Aug 2022 09:31

Sutekh There are now 9 injuries in the squad.

Nelson Abbey - believed to be concussion, probably out of games for the next week or so
Femi Azeez - hamstring issue. 8 weeks to go.
Scott Dann - calf injury, been out for about 4 weeks so far, at least another 2 or 3 weeks to go from what I can make out
Sam Hutchinson - same as Lucas Joao (below) but unsure as to what his injury is
Lucas Joao - knee problem, at least another 2/3 weeks. So September probably before he can start a game.
Liam Moore - out essentially until the new year
Dejan Tetek - unknown what his injury is but it was reported to be a small number of weeks out rather than months

Paul Ince has apparently also advised that another 2 players have also picked up knocks (hoping 1 of them is actually Nelson Abbey so there will only be 8 injured overall) but it is currently unknown how serious the injuries are.

In addition the triallist Brandon Ormonde-Ottewill is injured but whether the club will sign him when he is fit is unknown. As he’s not signed up Reading haven’t quite reached double figures as yet.

Finally the players below are also currently unavailable for administrative reasons:

Mamadou Loum N'Diaye - waiting for international clearance, hoped will play some part v Stevenage on Tuesday
Naby Sarr - still waiting for FL approval after 2 weeks. Will need to be brought up to fitness as well so we’re probably looking at late August before getting a game (presuming the FL say yes to the deal).

As per above, Paul Ince has revealed he’s added yoga exercises into the fitness regimes for the squad in an effort to try and improve things amongst the players (hope that they are conducted under a qualified instructor).

Meite and Yiadom apparently.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Stranded » 05 Aug 2022 10:14

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Sutekh There are now 9 injuries in the squad.

Nelson Abbey - believed to be concussion, probably out of games for the next week or so
Femi Azeez - hamstring issue. 8 weeks to go.
Scott Dann - calf injury, been out for about 4 weeks so far, at least another 2 or 3 weeks to go from what I can make out
Sam Hutchinson - same as Lucas Joao (below) but unsure as to what his injury is
Lucas Joao - knee problem, at least another 2/3 weeks. So September probably before he can start a game.
Liam Moore - out essentially until the new year
Dejan Tetek - unknown what his injury is but it was reported to be a small number of weeks out rather than months

Paul Ince has apparently also advised that another 2 players have also picked up knocks (hoping 1 of them is actually Nelson Abbey so there will only be 8 injured overall) but it is currently unknown how serious the injuries are.

In addition the triallist Brandon Ormonde-Ottewill is injured but whether the club will sign him when he is fit is unknown. As he’s not signed up Reading haven’t quite reached double figures as yet.

Finally the players below are also currently unavailable for administrative reasons:

Mamadou Loum N'Diaye - waiting for international clearance, hoped will play some part v Stevenage on Tuesday
Naby Sarr - still waiting for FL approval after 2 weeks. Will need to be brought up to fitness as well so we’re probably looking at late August before getting a game (presuming the FL say yes to the deal).

As per above, Paul Ince has revealed he’s added yoga exercises into the fitness regimes for the squad in an effort to try and improve things amongst the players (hope that they are conducted under a qualified instructor).

Meite and Yiadom apparently.


That has come from one Twitter account claiming to be ITK.

Have we explored the possibility that no-one is injured and this is a form of mind games? i.e. we'll likely start with the same XI,as we have no other option, and this is the only way we can put Cardiff off the scent a little.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Hound » 05 Aug 2022 10:40

It’s possible of course. Also possible Joao or Hutch could be back in. Though guessing not

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by Coppells Lost Coat » 05 Aug 2022 11:07

Did Ince even say what was the player status on the additional 2 ? Starter / squad / bench warmer / academy?
And didn't he say potentially 1 or 2 - so equally could mean potentially we have no new injuries. Mind games could be at play. However I wouldn't be surprised the 1 or 2 turns in to a definite 4 come saturday morning.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by windermereROYAL » 07 Aug 2022 09:15

Yak out for the rest of the month, Ovie hammy issue

Longy took a few heavy blows and was limping when he went off.

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Re: Injury watch 2022/23

by WestYorksRoyal » 07 Aug 2022 10:54

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Stranded Ince stating again that he feels we still don't do enough stretching and implying that some of the players are perhaps only paying it lip service rather than doing it properly, which is pretty major indictment of their professionalism if so.

He has now introduced yoga sessions twice a week as a way to improve this.


Sounds a good idea. At least something practical

Pauno would just always bemoan his bad luck. Good to at least have a manager who acknowledges it may reflect upon things we can do better as a club. Of course the best solution would be to bring in an expert to monitor how we work and provide solutions, or hire a new sports scientist who can provide fresh ideas. I know funds are tight, but do non-playing staff add that my to the budget?

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