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player ratings vs Pompey

by Chaney » 01 Jan 2008 18:53

USA-5 did ok, but awful fumble for 1st goal
Murty-4 clearly past his best and approaching veteran stage
Shorey-5 not given too much chance to get forward, badly outpaced for 2nd goal.
Inga-6 steady game, won some vital tackles
Sonko-1 useless just not good enough on current form,
Harper-7 covered alot of ground and tried hard.
Cisse-6 did ok, energetic performance
Hunt-6 tried to run at a strong Portsmouth defence with very little success
Doyle-6 tried hard but fluffed the best chance of the game.
Convey-5 very little chance to impress before being subbed
Kitson-7 again a good game, tried to hold up the play.

Subs.
Bikey-7 slow start but improved as the game went on.
Long-6 added pace to the attack, couple of half chances.

Coppell-5 needs to learn how to drop out of form players..AND STOP BEING SO FEKKING LOYAL TO PLAYERS THAT ARE CLEARLY NOT GOOD ENOUGH AT THIS LEVEL

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by Dirk Gently » 01 Jan 2008 18:54

Chaney Coppell-5 needs to learn how to drop out of form players..AND STOP BEING SO FEKKING LOYAL TO PLAYERS THAT ARE CLEARLY NOT GOOD ENOUGH AT THIS LEVEL


Also needs to makes substitutions earlier. Long should have been on up front about 20 minutes earlier.

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by Alan Partridge » 01 Jan 2008 18:58

Hahnemann 5 - 1 terrible mistake, after that he was fine.
Murty 3 - too slow, too old, not good enough anymore.
Shorey 3 - if he was ill he shouldn't have played. He is another one that can't defend and do the basics first. He's great going forward but he's a left back first for God's sake! Murdered for pace for the 2nd goal.
Sonko - not going to comment. :evil:
Ivar 6 - was ok.
Bikey 6 - looked equally iffy 1st half but was tremendous in the 2nd half.
Convey 4 - missed a great chance.
Hunt 6 - nothing really came off for him today but still our 3rd best player.
Harper 6 - typical Harper performance.
Cise 6- did ok in there. Nothing of note.
Doyle 4 - Missed Reading's best chance, another one that needs to be replaced in the team by Long for me.
Kitson 6 - Reading's best player again.

DLC 6
Long 6

Coppell 3 - Too loyal to too many players who aren't producing the goods at the moment. We let 6 goals in in the last game - unchanged. Terrible. Again frightened to give Long more than 7 mins despite him doing more than Doyle did in 83.
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by Turns8 » 01 Jan 2008 18:59

Dirk Gently
Chaney Coppell-5 needs to learn how to drop out of form players..AND STOP BEING SO FEKKING LOYAL TO PLAYERS THAT ARE CLEARLY NOT GOOD ENOUGH AT THIS LEVEL


Also needs to makes substitutions earlier. Long should have been on up front about 20 minutes earlier.


Why though? cos we were pretty strong in the 2nd half until they scored the 2nd goal...making subs would have disrupted the structure that Coppell obviously told them he wanted them to play at half-time...did you not see him on the touchline midway thru the 1st half trying to get instructions onto the pitch and at times you could see the frustration when players seemed unable to carry out a simple task...

People jump on Coppells back way too quickly...i can't think of a better manager to have who is currently available...the problem at the moment appears to be with the limited level of skill on the pitch...and before anyone says we need to spend at least £20m ffs, players have got to want to come and play for Reading it is not as simple as it is on a computer game :roll:

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by rg6royal » 01 Jan 2008 19:01

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Chaney Coppell-5 needs to learn how to drop out of form players..AND STOP BEING SO FEKKING LOYAL TO PLAYERS THAT ARE CLEARLY NOT GOOD ENOUGH AT THIS LEVEL


Also needs to makes substitutions earlier. Long should have been on up front about 20 minutes earlier.


Why though? cos we were pretty strong in the 2nd half until they scored the 2nd goal...making subs would have disrupted the structure that Coppell obviously told them he wanted them to play at half-time...did you not see him on the touchline midway thru the 1st half trying to get instructions onto the pitch and at times you could see the frustration when players seemed unable to carry out a simple task...

People jump on Coppells back way too quickly...i can't think of a better manager to have who is currently available...the problem at the moment appears to be with the limited level of skill on the pitch...and before anyone says we need to spend at least £20m ffs, players have got to want to come and play for Reading it is not as simple as it is on a computer game :roll:


Agreed

Bringing Shane Long on 8 minutes from the end isn't that good.....too late


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by Arch » 01 Jan 2008 19:04

Chaney USA-5 did ok, but awful fumble for 1st goal
Murty-4 clearly past his best and approaching veteran stage
Shorey-5 not given too much chance to get forward, badly outpaced for 2nd goal.
Inga-6 steady game, won some vital tackles
Sonko-1 useless just not good enough on current form,
Harper-7 covered alot of ground and tried hard.
Cisse-6 did ok, energetic performance
Hunt-6 tried to run at a strong Portsmouth defence with very little success
Doyle-6 tried hard but fluffed the best chance of the game.
Convey-5 very little chance to impress before being subbed
Kitson-7 again a good game, tried to hold up the play.

Subs.
Bikey-7 slow start but improved as the game went on.
Long-6 added pace to the attack, couple of half chances.

Coppell-5 needs to learn how to drop out of form players..AND STOP BEING SO FEKKING LOYAL TO PLAYERS THAT ARE CLEARLY NOT GOOD ENOUGH AT THIS LEVEL
Basically agree with all these except no 7's. 6 for Harper, Kitson and Bikey. I'm a bit inclined to go 5 on Hunt too. Nothing happened for him today, and if Doyle gets negative points for missing his chance, what about Hunty?!

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by Dirk Gently » 01 Jan 2008 19:06

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Chaney Coppell-5 needs to learn how to drop out of form players..AND STOP BEING SO FEKKING LOYAL TO PLAYERS THAT ARE CLEARLY NOT GOOD ENOUGH AT THIS LEVEL


Also needs to makes substitutions earlier. Long should have been on up front about 20 minutes earlier.


Why though? cos we were pretty strong in the 2nd half until they scored the 2nd goal...making subs would have disrupted the structure that Coppell obviously told them he wanted them to play at half-time...did you not see him on the touchline midway thru the 1st half trying to get instructions onto the pitch and at times you could see the frustration when players seemed unable to carry out a simple task...

People jump on Coppells back way too quickly...i can't think of a better manager to have who is currently available...the problem at the moment appears to be with the limited level of skill on the pitch...and before anyone says we need to spend at least £20m ffs, players have got to want to come and play for Reading it is not as simple as it is on a computer game :roll:


Because Kitson and Doyle were clearly absolutely knackered and causing few problems to a Pompey defence which outnumbered them. Our best chance of getting anything today was to attack with pace, and Long (or Lita!) would have been a much better bet to provide this pace.

When he came on he did cause them some propblem, but he was only given 7 minutes at the end, which is pretty pointless in my opinion. Why not give him a decent chance to make an impact, in place of one of the clearly-knackered front players?
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by Armadillo Roadkill » 01 Jan 2008 19:13

Hahnemann 5 - One mistake is not enough to call it a bad performance, and apart from that he was really solid. Bad mistake, though.
Murty 4 - Off the pace. Reaching end of shelf life?
Shorey 3 - Cleary shouldn't have played. He's not noted for his pace, but he almost went backwards for their second goal.
Sonko - Likewise. Better say nothing.
Ivar 6 - Committed, solid, showed leadership.
Bikey 7 - He did great. A good run of a few matches to really integrate and I think he would nail a first team place. But he's off ot the ANC, so that's possibly the effective end of his Reading career.
Convey 4 - Bless him. He was like a kid in the park who has been looking forward to playing football with this mates, then his Mum calls him in for his tea after five minutes.
Hunt 6 - Looked a bit worn out, really. Gave it all he's got, which is all you can ask on the day.
Harper 6 - Overall I think he was good. Can't work out why, though. I know he did loads, but I can't remember any of it.
Cise 7- Impressive. A few games to develop, and again, he could establish himself. And no ANC.
Doyle 4 - Thought he worked hard, put himself about, but just lacks a flash of inspiration from somewhere. The sort of spark shown by....Lita?
Kitson 8 - Excellent all round. Different class.

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Re: player ratings vs Pompey

by RoyalBlue » 01 Jan 2008 19:18

Dirk Gently
Chaney Coppell-5 needs to learn how to drop out of form players..AND STOP BEING SO FEKKING LOYAL TO PLAYERS THAT ARE CLEARLY NOT GOOD ENOUGH AT THIS LEVEL


Also needs to makes substitutions earlier. Long should have been on up front about 20 minutes earlier.


Also to blame for second goal. He knew Shorey was suffering (we are led to believe DLC was on the bench because of his ability to cover left back) and the fitness coach had already had a discussion with Shorey on the sideline during a break in play. Had DLC been brought on, he wouldn't have been left for dead (proved soon after he came on) the way that a clearly less than fit Shorey was.

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Chaney Coppell-5 needs to learn how to drop out of form players..AND STOP BEING SO FEKKING LOYAL TO PLAYERS THAT ARE CLEARLY NOT GOOD ENOUGH AT THIS LEVEL


Also needs to makes substitutions earlier. Long should have been on up front about 20 minutes earlier.


Why though? cos we were pretty strong in the 2nd half until they scored the 2nd goal...making subs would have disrupted the structure that Coppell obviously told them he wanted them to play at half-time...did you not see him on the touchline midway thru the 1st half trying to get instructions onto the pitch and at times you could see the frustration when players seemed unable to carry out a simple task...

People jump on Coppells back way too quickly...i can't think of a better manager to have who is currently available...the problem at the moment appears to be with the limited level of skill on the pitch...and before anyone says we need to spend at least £20m ffs, players have got to want to come and play for Reading it is not as simple as it is on a computer game :roll:


And how many players aren't influenced by the lure of plenty of money?

Splash the cash and the mercenaries will come (and most professional footballers are mercenaries).

While we continue to try to buck the trend by paying peanuts in the PL we can look forward to yet more stories about how it's difficult to attract good players to the club and/or the influx of a few more monkeys!
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by Arch » 01 Jan 2008 19:19

Armadillo Roadkill Cise 7- Impressive. A few games to develop, and again, he could establish himself. And no ANC.
I liked how he was always a handy body in defence when we were under pressure, and I liked how he was one of our biggest attacking threats in the second half, but in the middle of the park he really lacks drive. He could learn a thing or two from Bikey picking it up and really ramming it down their throats. Also a bit stand-offish - like Harper, more of a shepherd than a tackler.

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by Readingfanman » 01 Jan 2008 19:23

USA-4
Murty-4
Shorey-3
Inga-4
Sonko-2
Harper-5
Cisse-5
Hunt-5
Doyle-5
Convey-4
Kitson-7

Subs.
Bikey-7
Long- 5

Coppell - 4

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by Gunny Fishcake » 01 Jan 2008 19:26

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Coco the clown 2
Murty 2
Shorey-3
Inga-6
Sonko minus 1
Harper 6
Cisse-5
Hunt-5
Doyle-5
Convey-2
Kitson-7

Subs.
Bikey-7
Long- 5

Coppell - 4

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by Chaney » 01 Jan 2008 19:26

Readingfanman USA-4
Murty-4
Shorey-3
Inga-4
Sonko-2
Harper-5
Cisse-5
Hunt-5
Doyle-5
Convey-4
Kitson-7

Subs.
Bikey-7
Long- 5

Coppell - 4


very harsh, we were playing with a man short against a team with the best away record in the division


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by Readingfanman » 01 Jan 2008 19:30

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Murty-4
Shorey-3
Inga-4
Sonko-2
Harper-5
Cisse-5
Hunt-5
Doyle-5
Convey-4
Kitson-7

Subs.
Bikey-7
Long- 5

Coppell - 4


very harsh, we were playing with a man short against a team with the best away record in the division


TBF , we have one of the best home records. It might be slightly harsh , but too many mistakes. We would have got a point today I think if it hadn't been for the first goal.

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by rfcjoe » 01 Jan 2008 19:39

usa - 4
murty-5
bikey-7
ingi-6
shorey-5
hunt-7
harper-6
cisse-6/7
doyle-6
kitson7/8

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by andrew1957 » 01 Jan 2008 19:39

USA 5 - did ok apart from the awful error
Murty - 6 - I thought he did ok
Shorey - 5 - clearly not well
Sonko - 0 - awful - Championship standard (and I have been thinking this for some time)
Ingi - 7 - steady as ever
Hunt - 5 - looked a bit tired to me
Convey - not on long enough to rate - tough on him
Harper - 6 - ran and ran
Cisse - 6 - I thought he did ok and some hobnobbers being a bit harsh
Kitson - 7 - looks skillful but no service
Doyle - 6 - also looked a bit tired to me

Bikey - 7 - did really well in difficult circumstances
DLC - 6 - did ok
Long 5 - not on long enough to make a difference

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by chilipepper91 » 01 Jan 2008 19:45

Hahnemann: 5 - OK apart from THAT blunder. No kicks straight out of play...
Murty: 5 - lucky not to be sent off for foul on Distin.
Sonko: 1 - one contribution, one game lost.
Ingimarsson - 5: solid, but too slow.
Shorey: 5 - outpaced for goal, a bit anonymous otherwise.
Convey: 5 - one chance, just wide. Unlucky, I'd have left it for a bit to see how it went.
Harper: 5 - anonymous. Where is our midfield?
Cisse: 6 - a few good touches, showed promise.
Hunt: 6 - our most lively player.
Doyle: 5 - recently, he's looked more and more off the pace. Not much to do.
Kitson: 7 - a class apart from the rest of our players IMO.

Bikey: 7 - good performance, made good runs and good passes.
Long: 6 - did more in 10 minutes than Doyle did all game.
De la Cruz: 5: looked solid enough. One good cross.

Coppell: 5 - why won't he make substitutions?!

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by Royal Rother » 01 Jan 2008 19:47

Apart from Bikey (in the 2nd half) I though Doyle was our best player. Tireless running resulted in some of the best opportunities we had.

He didn't "fluff his chance" as has been suggested, it was an excellent save by James.

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by winchester_royal » 01 Jan 2008 20:57

USA-4 awful spill for the 1st goal, should have done more to stop utaka
Murts-5 Good going forward, but defensively insecure
Sonko-1 Idiot, an accident waiting to happen since he came back
Ingi-5 decent enough game
Shorey-5 Average
Hunt-5 Hunt of old, all running and no quality
Cisse-7 Showed alot of promise, good passing and strong in the tackle
Harps-5 Anomynous
Convey-5 Unlucky
Kits-7 Usual quality self
Doyle-6 did OK

Bikey-7 Deserves a go after ANC
DLC-6 Added pace to defence
Long-6 Shpuld have been brought on earlier

Coppell-4 Needs to learn to drop players and make subs

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