by Vision » 10 Jul 2008 13:20
Royalee It's funny how people often blame Madejski for lack of signings, but we seemed to be in the market for players all the time when Pardew was here. Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking for him to come back, but it certainly isn't as hard to attract players as Coppell makes out.
by 1871royals » 10 Jul 2008 13:21
by Alan Partridge » 10 Jul 2008 13:24
by Bill Oddie's Beard » 10 Jul 2008 13:31
Alan Partridge Tactically Coppell is better than Pardew, I can never forget Curo wide right at Cambridge, replaced by Rougier and then subbed off after 10 mins. Or Rougier at right back v Barnet, also John Mackie as a defensive midfielder against Forest, subbed and Watson ran the show there are many more. Also what I've always felt with Pardew's teams when the finish line is in sight, they haven't got the mentality to see the job through.
Coppell's transfer record was excellent until we got to the Premiership it really has been dire since. I'd say they are similar although i would definitely agree PArdew is far more pro active. He was always on the hunt for new players always trying things to improve us, and would definitely sign more 'wow' players. Never expected to get Curo in Div 2, Butler was a big signing, Chadwick on loan at the time, he wanted Di Canio, Upson. He definitely seemed to have the knack of either selling the club or getting people to beleive in him and the club.
Very different managers, both been very good for rFC and it's development, I'd favour Coppell over Pardew just. But he really needs to do something this month, we can't go into the new season with so little change. I don't think keeping the same squad even with the likes of Shorey, Hunt etc would be a good thing. Coppell has already stated that 'a few players have come up to me and said they want to play in the Prem' i.e. 'I want to leave'. I doubt that's Harper, he's just not the sort of character to say that. I can imagine Kitson, Shorey and Hunt saying it and if those are the 3 who have said it then they should go, if we can get decent offers. Just can't have players that don't want to be here even if it slightly weakens you.
I'm annoyed at the quote earlier, as already stated it's what we've heard on repeat for the last 3 years, he's got July and August to do something otherwise he is treading very thin ice, especially if we get off to a poor start because his supporters will dwindel rapidly.
Alan Partridge Tactically Coppell is better than Pardew, I can never forget Curo wide right at Cambridge, replaced by Rougier and then subbed off after 10 mins. Or Rougier at right back v Barnet, also John Mackie as a defensive midfielder against Forest, subbed and Watson ran the show there are many more. Also what I've always felt with Pardew's teams when the finish line is in sight, they haven't got the mentality to see the job through.
Coppell's transfer record was excellent until we got to the Premiership it really has been dire since. I'd say they are similar although i would definitely agree PArdew is far more pro active. He was always on the hunt for new players always trying things to improve us, and would definitely sign more 'wow' players. Never expected to get Curo in Div 2, Butler was a big signing, Chadwick on loan at the time, he wanted Di Canio, Upson. He definitely seemed to have the knack of either selling the club or getting people to beleive in him and the club.
Very different managers, both been very good for rFC and it's development, I'd favour Coppell over Pardew just. But he really needs to do something this month, we can't go into the new season with so little change. I don't think keeping the same squad even with the likes of Shorey, Hunt etc would be a good thing. Coppell has already stated that 'a few players have come up to me and said they want to play in the Prem' i.e. 'I want to leave'. I doubt that's Harper, he's just not the sort of character to say that. I can imagine Kitson, Shorey and Hunt saying it and if those are the 3 who have said it then they should go, if we can get decent offers. Just can't have players that don't want to be here even if it slightly weakens you.
I'm annoyed at the quote earlier, as already stated it's what we've heard on repeat for the last 3 years, he's got July and August to do something otherwise he is treading very thin ice, especially if we get off to a poor start because his supporters will dwindel rapidly.
by Wycombe Royal » 10 Jul 2008 13:36
BBTSAAlan Partridge Tactically Coppell is better than Pardew, I can never forget Curo wide right at Cambridge, replaced by Rougier and then subbed off after 10 mins. Or Rougier at right back v Barnet, also John Mackie as a defensive midfielder against Forest, subbed and Watson ran the show there are many more. Also what I've always felt with Pardew's teams when the finish line is in sight, they haven't got the mentality to see the job through.
Coppell's transfer record was excellent until we got to the Premiership it really has been dire since. I'd say they are similar although i would definitely agree PArdew is far more pro active. He was always on the hunt for new players always trying things to improve us, and would definitely sign more 'wow' players. Never expected to get Curo in Div 2, Butler was a big signing, Chadwick on loan at the time, he wanted Di Canio, Upson. He definitely seemed to have the knack of either selling the club or getting people to beleive in him and the club.
Very different managers, both been very good for rFC and it's development, I'd favour Coppell over Pardew just. But he really needs to do something this month, we can't go into the new season with so little change. I don't think keeping the same squad even with the likes of Shorey, Hunt etc would be a good thing. Coppell has already stated that 'a few players have come up to me and said they want to play in the Prem' i.e. 'I want to leave'. I doubt that's Harper, he's just not the sort of character to say that. I can imagine Kitson, Shorey and Hunt saying it and if those are the 3 who have said it then they should go, if we can get decent offers. Just can't have players that don't want to be here even if it slightly weakens you.
I'm annoyed at the quote earlier, as already stated it's what we've heard on repeat for the last 3 years, he's got July and August to do something otherwise he is treading very thin ice, especially if we get off to a poor start because his supporters will dwindel rapidly.
Im being serious when I say I would probably swap today.
Pards would freshen this squad up straight away in my opinion
Wycombe RoyalBBTSAAlan Partridge Tactically Coppell is better than Pardew, I can never forget Curo wide right at Cambridge, replaced by Rougier and then subbed off after 10 mins. Or Rougier at right back v Barnet, also John Mackie as a defensive midfielder against Forest, subbed and Watson ran the show there are many more. Also what I've always felt with Pardew's teams when the finish line is in sight, they haven't got the mentality to see the job through.
Coppell's transfer record was excellent until we got to the Premiership it really has been dire since. I'd say they are similar although i would definitely agree PArdew is far more pro active. He was always on the hunt for new players always trying things to improve us, and would definitely sign more 'wow' players. Never expected to get Curo in Div 2, Butler was a big signing, Chadwick on loan at the time, he wanted Di Canio, Upson. He definitely seemed to have the knack of either selling the club or getting people to beleive in him and the club.
Very different managers, both been very good for rFC and it's development, I'd favour Coppell over Pardew just. But he really needs to do something this month, we can't go into the new season with so little change. I don't think keeping the same squad even with the likes of Shorey, Hunt etc would be a good thing. Coppell has already stated that 'a few players have come up to me and said they want to play in the Prem' i.e. 'I want to leave'. I doubt that's Harper, he's just not the sort of character to say that. I can imagine Kitson, Shorey and Hunt saying it and if those are the 3 who have said it then they should go, if we can get decent offers. Just can't have players that don't want to be here even if it slightly weakens you.
I'm annoyed at the quote earlier, as already stated it's what we've heard on repeat for the last 3 years, he's got July and August to do something otherwise he is treading very thin ice, especially if we get off to a poor start because his supporters will dwindel rapidly.
Im being serious when I say I would probably swap today.
Pards would freshen this squad up straight away in my opinion
Yes he would, but not much thought would go into it.
by Wycombe Royal » 10 Jul 2008 13:38
BBTSAWycombe RoyalBBTSA Im being serious when I say I would probably swap today.
Pards would freshen this squad up straight away in my opinion
Yes he would, but not much thought would go into it.
Such a thing as too much thought.
by Roger the Rabbit » 10 Jul 2008 13:44
Wycombe RoyalBBTSAWycombe Royal Yes he would, but not much thought would go into it.
Such a thing as too much thought.
Indeed. A happy medium would be nice.
by Bill Oddie's Beard » 10 Jul 2008 13:54
Roger the Rabbit Presumably a hppy medium woul dbe able to tell us if we are going to get promoted this season as well...
by Southbank Old Boy » 10 Jul 2008 14:09
by BR2 » 10 Jul 2008 14:11
by Archie's penalty » 10 Jul 2008 14:17
BR2 It shows how desperate we all feel by the tetchy postings in response to the latest interview with our leader.
As I see it the good news is that he still sees the need for a right-winger which implies that he thinks Kebe and Henry aren't up to it.
The bad news is that he said the same on a number of occasions last season and we ended up with Kebe.
Hammond and Mc Dermott have presented names to Steve and he has rejected all of them.
What does that say about our scouting network?
Coppell says that we have 7 or 8 centre-halves as if they have arrived by magic-Steve,you signed them.
What strikes me as odd is that we are scouring the lower leagues for these young and hungry lads-how come we are scouring now when there is no opportunity to see them play?
Surely scouts were at work watching games throughout last season including Premiership Reserves games and have submitted dossiers on hundreds of players in English football?
One further point is that we don't tend to bring in players and let them play straight away so when players like Harper and Shorey move on how many games will we play before those newcomers are ready?
Other than the few who think that the likes of Cisse,Bryn,Ivar and so on (young and hungry?)will see us make a serious attempt at promotion most of us have this down feeling at the moment and I,like them,am just keeping my fingers crossed that a number of players are ready to come in and they need to turn out better than the Harpers,Shoreys and so on (and not just as good as) if we are to have a genuine chance of a return to the big league.
by Southbank Old Boy » 10 Jul 2008 14:30
Archie's penalty Good post. I do think however that Harper would do a good job for us in the championship. I think that Shorey should go though. It would be a shame if we missed out on signings due to dilly-dallying. I would prefer to see the players go sooner rather than later so
we can get the right players in for next year. BUT they have to offer the cash and from what I've heard they don't seem to have been
doing that. I say the next decent offer we get for Shorey, Hunt (and possibly) Kitson we let them go. I'd be prepared to accept 2.5 million for Shorey, 3 for Hunt and 4 for Kitson.
Btw does anyone know if there have been any bids for Shorey?
by Vision » 10 Jul 2008 14:45
Southbank Old Boy
Just how I feel. As I said, I don't want us to let players go for a pittence, but at the same time, there is no point keeping players for the sake of 500k or whatever IF we think they're not going to be buying 100% into our future.
We'd be much better off clearing the decks and getting on with the rebuilding even if it means we get a few mil' less into the coffers.
Our future is going to be dictated by how well we rebuild the squad right now, not by the amount we receive in transfer fee's for players who think they're better than the championship.
by Coppell's Right Footed 11 » 10 Jul 2008 14:49
by Uke » 10 Jul 2008 14:53
BR2 What strikes me as odd is that we are scouring the lower leagues for these young and hungry lads-how come we are scouring now when there is no opportunity to see them play?
Surely scouts were at work watching games throughout last season including Premiership Reserves games and have submitted dossiers on hundreds of players in English football?
by Archie's penalty » 10 Jul 2008 14:54
Coppell's Right Footed 11 Brian Howard next monday after Harper has left for Bolton
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