England - the future....

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Re: England - the future....

by Donny Ironside » 15 Nov 2021 22:36

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NathStPaul As expected this game is bordering on the farcical. Would like us to get double figures.


All the last two games have done are take away a weekend of actual football from us.

International breaks are shit.


Got league 1, league 2 and non league still? Its good going to watch a local non league team play

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Re: England - the future....

by Sutekh » 16 Nov 2021 08:25

Was it only 10 in the end though?:



Whatever it was it’s all so utterly pointless, calling for ages for these qualification groups to go through some form of pre-qualification in an effort to reduce the ridiculous number of international fixtures and cut down on the need for these stupid breaks. Might actually have games worth watching then rather than one side in each of most groups just going through the motions.

But no, as with pretty much everything else that’s wrong in the world it’s all about the money.

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Re: England - the future....

by Hendo » 16 Nov 2021 08:47

Sutekh Was it only 10 in the end though?:



Whatever it was it’s all so utterly pointless, calling for ages for these qualification groups to go through some form of pre-qualification in an effort to reduce the ridiculous number of international fixtures and cut down on the need for these stupid breaks. Might actually have games worth watching then rather than one side in each of most groups just going through the motions.

But no, as with pretty much everything else that’s wrong in the world it’s all about the money.


If San Marino end up getting a bundle of money each time they play the big boys in qualifying, I think I’m ok with that. It’s the only way they are going to improve by putting money back into the system. Look at LUX, they were the laughing stock once and now they finished 4th in their group level on points with ROI. IMO, that is only possible by reinvesting money from the qualifiers.

I do see the argument of pre-qualifiers though as that would give them more competitive games but the money would be so much lower.

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Re: England - the future....

by NathStPaul » 16 Nov 2021 09:03

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Sutekh Was it only 10 in the end though?:



Whatever it was it’s all so utterly pointless, calling for ages for these qualification groups to go through some form of pre-qualification in an effort to reduce the ridiculous number of international fixtures and cut down on the need for these stupid breaks. Might actually have games worth watching then rather than one side in each of most groups just going through the motions.

But no, as with pretty much everything else that’s wrong in the world it’s all about the money.


If San Marino end up getting a bundle of money each time they play the big boys in qualifying, I think I’m ok with that. It’s the only way they are going to improve by putting money back into the system. Look at LUX, they were the laughing stock once and now they finished 4th in their group level on points with ROI. IMO, that is only possible by reinvesting money from the qualifiers.

I do see the argument of pre-qualifiers though as that would give them more competitive games but the money would be so much lower.

I agree with this. The only way you can improve is by playing the better teams and getting the income from playing big games. I think UEFA and FIFA should do a lot more to help actually, provide facilities grants etc.

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Re: England - the future....

by Millsy » 16 Nov 2021 09:36

Only 10 against 10 men? Southgate's time is up.


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Re: England - the future....

by Sanguine » 16 Nov 2021 10:19

One of the best things about double figure scores is that it fcuks up scoreboard formatting. See also ITV's graphics last night.

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Re: England - the future....

by URZZZZ » 16 Nov 2021 12:04

Sanguine I'd like to start seeing an indication of forward planning to next year. Is there a scenario where Jude Bellingham isn't a starter in Qatar? Surely not. Would be good if he starts vs. San Marino.

I'd like Southgate to make a decision on the system too. We switched to three at the back for Albania, which for one suits the attacking qualities of James and TAA. So if that's what we're doing, let's stick with it, whoever the opponent.


Really like Saka as a LB/LWB

Obviously only San Marino but he looks to have a go at his fullback. Shaw did well in the Euros but think we look more dynamic with Saka there

Haven’t always been a fan of wingback formations but with Trent and Saka there, it’s more appealing and with the likes of Rice and Bellingham in midfield, we could be on the cusp of an exciting side again

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Re: England - the future....

by 6ft Kerplunk » 16 Nov 2021 15:56

At least Saka stayed wide most the time. Alexander Arnold seemed to be closer to the centre spot than touchline for most of the match, must have been the tactic they were trying but Southgate's still not using him as effectively as Liverpool do.

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Re: England - the future....

by Sanguine » 03 Dec 2021 17:01

This is interesting. Wolves defender Max Kilman is being spoken off as a future England player, and is apparently on Gareth Southgate's radar. If he isn't picked for England, Kilman would normally have a second choice, as both of his parents were born in the Ukraine. However, Kilman has played competitive internationals for England at futsal (smaller ball, normally played indoors on a hard court), and FIFA, who also govern the global game of futsal, have confirmed that that makes Kilman ineligible to represent Ukraine at football. Which seems a bit mean.


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Re: England - the future....

by Franchise FC » 04 Dec 2021 11:21

Sanguine This is interesting. Wolves defender Max Kilman is being spoken off as a future England player, and is apparently on Gareth Southgate's radar. If he isn't picked for England, Kilman would normally have a second choice, as both of his parents were born in the Ukraine. However, Kilman has played competitive internationals for England at futsal (smaller ball, normally played indoors on a hard court), and FIFA, who also govern the global game of futsal, have confirmed that that makes Kilman ineligible to represent Ukraine at football. Which seems a bit mean.

Is there anyone decent that’s represented England at Subbuteo that we can commandeer ?

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