England - the future....

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Re: England - the future....

by bcubed » 10 Nov 2022 14:31

bcubed I don’t really follow Premier League much these days but is there no one better than Dier?!


Somebody help me out
Who were the alternatives?

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Re: England - the future....

by Hendo » 10 Nov 2022 14:32

bcubed
bcubed I don’t really follow Premier League much these days but is there no one better than Dier?!


Somebody help me out
Who were the alternatives?


I don't watch too much Premier League either, but by all accounts Dier has improved under Conte and looked decent.

Also, his inclusion gives cover across a few different positions - there will always be room for a utility man.

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Re: England - the future....

by Hendo » 10 Nov 2022 14:37

With the talk of England squads, this is amazing :lol: :lol:

https://twitter.com/bryansgunn/status/1590693604577902592

38 years ago today England manager Bobby Robson couldn’t find Clive Allen

Clive, if you’re watching give Bob Wilson a call. You’re in the England squad

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Re: England - the future....

by Sutekh » 10 Nov 2022 14:41

Hendo With the talk of England squads, this is amazing :lol: :lol:

https://twitter.com/bryansgunn/status/1590693604577902592

38 years ago today England manager Bobby Robson couldn’t find Clive Allen

Clive, if you’re watching give Bob Wilson a call. You’re in the England squad


Brilliant, just a much better world then!

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Re: England - the future....

by bcubed » 10 Nov 2022 14:42

Hendo
bcubed
bcubed I don’t really follow Premier League much these days but is there no one better than Dier?!


Somebody help me out
Who were the alternatives?


I don't watch too much Premier League either, but by all accounts Dier has improved under Conte and looked decent.

Also, his inclusion gives cover across a few different positions - there will always be room for a utility man.

Hmm
I remain to be convinced but thanks


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Re: England - the future....

by Sutekh » 10 Nov 2022 14:47

For those that want to know, the squad is:

Goalkeepers: Pickford (Everton), Pope (Newcastle), Ramsdale (Arsenal)

Defenders: Maguire, Shaw (both Man Utd), Dier (Tottenham), Stones, Walker (both Man City), Trippier (Newcastle), Coady (Everton), White (Arsenal), Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool)

Midfielders: Bellingham (Borussia Dortmund), Mount, Gallagher (both Chelsea), Rice (West Ham), Henderson (Liverpool), Phillips (Man City)

Forwards: Maddison (Leicester), Foden, Grealish (both Man City), Kane (Tottenham), Saka (Arsenal), Sterling (Chelsea), Wilson (Newcastle), Rashford (Man Utd)

Don’t get Coady and Dier being in there and would have thought Abraham is worth a shout esp. when Sterling hardly scores these days.

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Re: England - the future....

by Winston Biscuit » 10 Nov 2022 14:51

Coady over Tomori is laughable :lol:

realy pleased for Maddison though, should have played far more times for England

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Re: England - the future....

by Loafer » 10 Nov 2022 15:05

gallgher over ward prowse is oxf*rd ridiculous

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Re: England - the future....

by Winston Biscuit » 10 Nov 2022 15:09

Pickford

Trippier
Stones
Maguire
Shaw

Bellingham
Maddison
Rice

Foden
Kane
Saka


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Re: England - the future....

by Sutekh » 10 Nov 2022 15:09

So if England win their group they should be able to make the QFs to play one of Denmark or France or Poland or even Argentina - but if they screw up at all and finish as runners up chances are they’ll be done by the Netherlands in the round of 16.

They really should win their group though. Think I’ll go for 3 very dull 1-0 wins and everyone saying how unconvincing they look.

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Re: England - the future....

by South Coast Royal » 10 Nov 2022 15:12

bcubed
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bcubed
Somebody help me out
Who were the alternatives?


I don't watch too much Premier League either, but by all accounts Dier has improved under Conte and looked decent.

Also, his inclusion gives cover across a few different positions - there will always be room for a utility man.

Hmm
I remain to be convinced but thanks


Isn't Ben White that utility player?

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Re: England - the future....

by Winston Biscuit » 10 Nov 2022 15:12

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Re: England - the future....

by South Coast Royal » 10 Nov 2022 15:15

Hendo
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A lot of iffy selections of injured or injury prone players and whatever back 3 or 4 is chosen it will be weak but, apart from Guehi and Tomori there aren't too many options open than those selected.

Media pressure and injuries have made Southgate pick Maddison and TAA, neither of whom I expect to play much.
No back-up target man striker such as Toney or Abraham so let's hope that Kane stays fit.

A squad where the better players are forward looking players so we can only hope that the plan is to go on the offensive more than we sometimes do.


I think Maddison has more than earned his right to play considering his contributions to Leicester seeing as he has 6 goals and 4 assists in 12 games this season, rather than any media pressure, but I would tend to agree that he might struggle to get into the XI.

Would imagine the XI to start v Iran would be:

Pickford

Trippier
Stones
Maguire
Shaw

Bellingham
Mount
Rice

Sterling
Kane
Saka


The media pressure that I spoke about arose because of those excellent performances.
I would play him but I suspect that Southgate won't.

That is probably the starting back 4 but what a poor line of defence that is for so many reasons.


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Re: England - the future....

by South Coast Royal » 10 Nov 2022 15:33

At world cups countries often take one or two younger players for the experience and IIRC we once took Walcott.

With the massive number of 26 it would be easy to do that and maybe Gallagher falls into that category.
I would like to have seen Eze or Harvey Elliot go as they may well have a future at England level.

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Re: England - the future....

by Loafer » 10 Nov 2022 15:47

Winston Biscuit Pickford

Trippier
Stones
Maguire
Shaw

Bellingham
Maddison
Rice

Foden
Kane
Saka



pope
white coady trippier
foden bellingham rice maddison
saka wilson kane

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Re: England - the future....

by Loafer » 10 Nov 2022 15:48

Winston Biscuit ICH

Disagree

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Re: England - the future....

by Winston Biscuit » 10 Nov 2022 16:08

South Coast Royal At world cups countries often take one or two younger players for the experience


Original/fat/R9 Ronaldo was at World Cup 94 as a 17 year old unused sub.

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Re: England - the future....

by 6ft Kerplunk » 10 Nov 2022 17:10

Winston Biscuit
South Coast Royal At world cups countries often take one or two younger players for the experience


Original/fat/R9 Ronaldo was at World Cup 94 as a 17 year old unused sub.

Did Walcott the power of good too, any time now he's going to burst through on the international scene.

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Re: England - the future....

by Royal Rother » 10 Nov 2022 17:13

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A squad where the better players are forward looking players so we can only hope that the plan is to go on the offensive more than we sometimes do.


You know that Gareth Southgate is still our manager, right?

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Re: England - the future....

by Royal Rother » 10 Nov 2022 17:21

Loafer gallgher over ward prowse is oxf*rd ridiculous


Maguire and Coady over Smalling is worse.

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