World Cup Betting Thread

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Re: World Cup Betting Thread

by Ouroboros » 26 Jun 2014 23:05

Nope.

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Nearly, though. That counts for something, right?

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Re: World Cup Betting Thread

by The Prisoner » 27 Jun 2014 00:03

Doing a £10 to a grand challenge if anyone fancies it. Got most of the way there on first effort til Ivory Coast - Greece screwed it up

http://www.redtipster.co.uk/world-cup-10toagrand/

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Re: World Cup Betting Thread

by LWJ » 27 Jun 2014 11:59

LWJ Fixtures 26/6
£10 Portugal @ 2.12 W
£10 Draw @ 3.3 (USA v Germany) L
£10 Draw @ 3.8 (Algeria v Russia) W
£10 Belgium @ 1.83 W
Return: £37.50
Total: -£36.80


Whatevs Portugal v Ghana - Ghana @3.05 L
USA v Germany - Germany @ 1.75 W
Algeria v Russia - Russia @2.16 L
South Korea v Belgium - South Korea @ 5.3 L
Return: -£22.50
Total: -£131.40

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Re: World Cup Betting Thread

by Ouroboros » 27 Jun 2014 12:04

I'm not really sure what you two are supposed to be proving anymore. It's a race to the bottom.

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Re: World Cup Betting Thread

by BR2 » 27 Jun 2014 12:20

Had a good bet on the bookings last night.
My assumption was that these are crucial games so the risk of getting a booking is outweighed by the importance of a team qualifying.
Not big prices but 4 doubles and a treble where for 3 of the games the quote was for more than 2.5 cards and 3.5 in the other so when the ref did his 3rd booking in the Russia game it clinched the bet.
Bookings have been at a very low level in this tournament so far with nobody (?) being booked for simulation but as the importance grows I would expect more but that will probably be reflected in the bookies' prices.

It might also be worth looking at the corners market (betting under) as games become more and more cagey with greater midfield possession as often happens in the later stages of the European Champs League.


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Re: World Cup Betting Thread

by LWJ » 27 Jun 2014 12:54

Ouroboros I'm not really sure what you two are supposed to be proving anymore. It's a race to the bottom.

C_U1/Whatevs has for months suggested that random betting is more profitable than using any knowledge you may have. Regardless if I'm down or not, if he is more down it shows his view on betting is wrong

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Re: World Cup Betting Thread

by Ouroboros » 27 Jun 2014 13:05

I'm pretty sure his response will be that, on average, random betting with return your stake minus the bookmakers' cut. As you seem to be losing more than that, I don't think you've proved him wrong about anything.

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Re: World Cup Betting Thread

by Whatevs » 27 Jun 2014 13:41

Ouroboros I'm pretty sure his response will be that, on average, random betting with return your stake minus the bookmakers' cut. As you seem to be losing more than that, I don't think you've proved him wrong about anything.


Along those lines but with obvious random variations you may get un/lucky and win/lose would expect it to follow some kind of normal distribution. If it was aggregated across everybody over time then yep exactly what you're saying

Random betting may have given winning bets such as Costa Rica v everyone else in the group or Spain, Italy, England being eliminated at the group stages etc. Knowledge would have made this a very unlikely choice (apart from EngLOLand).

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Re: World Cup Betting Thread

by double d » 27 Jun 2014 14:02

I have always believed in random betting in football mixed with knowledge, but pure knowledge in horses. I bet on scandanavian football mostly, very knowledgeable about that. Plus Dutch football (over 2.5 goals basically every game)


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Re: World Cup Betting Thread

by LWJ » 27 Jun 2014 14:10

Ouroboros I'm pretty sure his response will be that, on average, random betting with return your stake minus the bookmakers' cut. As you seem to be losing more than that, I don't think you've proved him wrong about anything.

I might just be having a slow day but I don't understand the first part. I am down £30 in total. He is down £130 surely that is showing random betting isn't winning?

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Re: World Cup Betting Thread

by Ouroboros » 27 Jun 2014 14:21

As he says, over enough time it's almost a given that random betting will lose you only the bookies' overround. How could it not?

He may be on a poor run at the moment but that doesn't change the above fact.

I might be wrong but it appears that you are currently losing more than the bookies' overround, which would suggest that you are doing worse than would be expected on average through random picking.

You and me both, of course.

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Re: World Cup Betting Thread

by LWJ » 28 Jun 2014 20:13

LWJ Fixtures 26/6
£10 Portugal @ 2.12
£10 Draw @ 3.3 (USA v Germany)
£10 Draw @ 3.8 (Algeria v Russia)
£10 Belgium @ 1.83

Fixtures 28/6
£10 Draw @ 1.63
£10 Uruguay @ 4

Just saying I got the wrong price for the draw.. It was 4.6 pre kick off

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Re: World Cup Betting Thread

by double d » 29 Jun 2014 19:23

Got on Holland to win 2-1 at 18/1 in play :) I was chain smoking outside the pub and my heart was beating so hard at the end of that game


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Re: World Cup Betting Thread

by Pepe the Horseman » 29 Jun 2014 21:13

Just put £20 on Costa Rica at 9/5, even though I'm convinced it'll be a draw.

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Re: World Cup Betting Thread

by Pepe the Horseman » 29 Jun 2014 22:18

Probs should've gone with the draw...

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Re: World Cup Betting Thread

by Ouroboros » 29 Jun 2014 22:28

Get in 8)

Backed Colombia, Holland and Costa Rica.

Unfortunately for £5 singles only :|

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Re: World Cup Betting Thread

by Pepe the Horseman » 29 Jun 2014 22:31

Yay!

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Re: World Cup Betting Thread

by Pepe the Horseman » 29 Jun 2014 23:08

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Re: World Cup Betting Thread

by paultheroyal » 29 Jun 2014 23:24

Pepe the Horseman Just put £20 on Costa Rica at 9/5, even though I'm convinced it'll be a draw.


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Re: World Cup Betting Thread

by Pepe the Horseman » 30 Jun 2014 11:51

Germany/France double at evens is surely easy money. Right guys??!!

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