Platini is turning into Blatter.

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Platini is turning into Blatter.

by Kitsondinho » 28 Oct 2013 13:49

Following the nonsense of Euro2020 being held in back gardens across the continent, dear Michel wants a 40 team World Cup now. Why not just put all 209 teams in a year long tournament across the globe......What an arse.

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by stealthpapes » 28 Oct 2013 13:52

I'm not sure that 2020 is a nonsense just yet. I think Soggy and I had similar opinions - its different, it might work, let's not jump on it just yet.


BUT

there are reasons why a 24 team Euros and a 40 team World Cup would be shite. There just aren't that many good teams to justify it.

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by TBM » 28 Oct 2013 15:12

stealthpapes I'm not sure that 2020 is a nonsense just yet. I think Soggy and I had similar opinions - its different, it might work, let's not jump on it just yet.


BUT

there are reasons why a 24 team Euros and a 40 team World Cup would be shite. There just aren't that many good teams to justify it.


40 team WC wouldn't be too bad - it only gives Europe 1 extra place and the others 2 more. With teams like Japan etc starting to become better at football while should they be limited to qualify?

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Re: Platini is turning into Blatter.

by Kitsondinho » 28 Oct 2013 15:33

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stealthpapes I'm not sure that 2020 is a nonsense just yet. I think Soggy and I had similar opinions - its different, it might work, let's not jump on it just yet.


BUT

there are reasons why a 24 team Euros and a 40 team World Cup would be shite. There just aren't that many good teams to justify it.


40 team WC wouldn't be too bad - it only gives Europe 1 extra place and the others 2 more. With teams like Japan etc starting to become better at football while should they be limited to qualify?

A 40 team WC would be shite. It would go on forever.....a bit like the Cricket World Cup now. I am all for making the number of teams that qualify from around the world fairer...even if that means Europe loses a few spots.....but 40 teams is just madness!

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Re: Platini is turning into Blatter.

by TBM » 28 Oct 2013 15:36

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stealthpapes I'm not sure that 2020 is a nonsense just yet. I think Soggy and I had similar opinions - its different, it might work, let's not jump on it just yet.


BUT

there are reasons why a 24 team Euros and a 40 team World Cup would be shite. There just aren't that many good teams to justify it.


40 team WC wouldn't be too bad - it only gives Europe 1 extra place and the others 2 more. With teams like Japan etc starting to become better at football while should they be limited to qualify?

A 40 team WC would be shite. It would go on forever.....a bit like the Cricket World Cup now. I am all for making the number of teams that qualify from around the world fairer...even if that means Europe loses a few spots.....but 40 teams is just madness!


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by soggy biscuit » 28 Oct 2013 15:39

stealthpapes I'm not sure that 2020 is a nonsense just yet. I think Soggy and I had similar opinions - its different, it might work, let's not jump on it just yet.


yep. irrespective of how they won it, I think Qatar WC could be pretty skillz.

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by Winchester Royal » 28 Oct 2013 15:41

Don't see the problem with a 40 team WC. It's all about the occasion at the event proper rather than the qualifiers.

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by Mr Angry » 28 Oct 2013 15:49

IMO, this is one of Platini's less stupid ideas.

40 teams would mean 8 groups of 5, with the top 2 qualifying for the last 16 as now; frankly, I don't have a problem with that because:
1. There are more countries now in the World,
2. The point of the World Cup is to keep the spreading football across the World and how better than "less traditional" nations appearing, and
3. it will mean that there is less chance of 2 teams playing out a dodgy 0-0 draw in the last game for both to qualify.....

The alternative (of keeping 32 teams in the Finals) is fewer European teams, and I'd wager that Platini will attempt to coerce the Home Country FA's into merging into a British FA if that happened!

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by From Despair To Where? » 28 Oct 2013 16:16

Mr Angry IMO, this is one of Platini's less stupid ideas.

40 teams would mean 8 groups of 5, with the top 2 qualifying for the last 16 as now; frankly, I don't have a problem with that because:
1. There are more countries now in the World,
2. The point of the World Cup is to keep the spreading football across the World and how better than "less traditional" nations appearing, and
3. it will mean that there is less chance of 2 teams playing out a dodgy 0-0 draw in the last game for both to qualify.....The alternative (of keeping 32 teams in the Finals) is fewer European teams, and I'd wager that Platini will attempt to coerce the Home Country FA's into merging into a British FA if that happened!



If there's groups of 5 then it means 1 team isn't playing in the final round. Surely that would give more scope for two other teams manufacturing a result to keep that team out.

I do agree with Point 2 though


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by Lacoste » 28 Oct 2013 17:14

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stealthpapes I'm not sure that 2020 is a nonsense just yet. I think Soggy and I had similar opinions - its different, it might work, let's not jump on it just yet.


BUT

there are reasons why a 24 team Euros and a 40 team World Cup would be shite. There just aren't that many good teams to justify it.


40 team WC wouldn't be too bad - it only gives Europe 1 extra place and the others 2 more. With teams like Japan etc starting to become better at football while should they be limited to qualify?



Because they were too shit to qualify?

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Re: Platini is turning into Blatter.

by stealthpapes » 28 Oct 2013 17:28

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stealthpapes I'm not sure that 2020 is a nonsense just yet. I think Soggy and I had similar opinions - its different, it might work, let's not jump on it just yet.


yep. irrespective of how they won it, I think Qatar WC could be pretty skillz.


2020 is the proposed multicity Euros, 2022 is Qatar.

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Re: Platini is turning into Blatter.

by TBM » 28 Oct 2013 17:32

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stealthpapes I'm not sure that 2020 is a nonsense just yet. I think Soggy and I had similar opinions - its different, it might work, let's not jump on it just yet.


BUT

there are reasons why a 24 team Euros and a 40 team World Cup would be shite. There just aren't that many good teams to justify it.


40 team WC wouldn't be too bad - it only gives Europe 1 extra place and the others 2 more. With teams like Japan etc starting to become better at football while should they be limited to qualify?



Because they were too shit to qualify?


Hardly, when there is only 1 spot - it means there could be 2 or 3 decent sides that miss out

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by Barry the bird boggler » 28 Oct 2013 17:34

40 teams in the WC finals won't make too much difference really, ok with that.

The Euros becoming an all over Europe thing seems a bit stupid though, isn't that what they used to do pre 1980 when no one really cared?


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by TBM » 28 Oct 2013 17:36

Barry the bird boggler The Euros becoming an all over Europe thing seems a bit stupid though, isn't that what they used to do pre 1980 when no one really cared?


It will lose its "excitement" - it will just be like another qualifier each game. There is something nice about a country putting on a good show for a month long tournament

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by stealthpapes » 28 Oct 2013 17:39

I am all for making the number of teams that qualify from around the world fairer...even if that means Europe loses a few spots.....


To make it more representative of the 'better' teams as recorded by FIFA rankings, then you'd have more European spots, not less.

If you wanted to remove European teams, you would not be making it fairer by any stretch of the imagination.

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Re: Platini is turning into Blatter.

by Wax Jacket » 28 Oct 2013 17:51

stealthpapes
I am all for making the number of teams that qualify from around the world fairer...even if that means Europe loses a few spots.....


To make it more representative of the 'better' teams as recorded by FIFA rankings, then you'd have more European spots, not less.

If you wanted to remove European teams, you would not be making it fairer by any stretch of the imagination.


...if you accept FIFA's rankings as proof of teams' quality of course

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Re: Platini is turning into Blatter.

by stealthpapes » 28 Oct 2013 17:53

I'm just assuming a level of self-consistency that is, yes (chuckles), a bit naive.

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Re: Platini is turning into Blatter.

by Wax Jacket » 28 Oct 2013 18:09

tbf it's also the easiest way of working out how you get round the 'who doesn't play on the last round of fixtures' question as it'd surely be the lowest-ranked team

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Re: Platini is turning into Blatter.

by Kitsondinho » 28 Oct 2013 19:16

Seems its just me then that thinks 40 teams in a World Cup is a stupid idea.

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Re: Platini is turning into Blatter.

by soggy biscuit » 29 Oct 2013 08:17

stealthpapes 2020 is the proposed multicity Euros, 2022 is Qatar.


sorry, had a 'mare, but i am with you, think the multi city attempt could work quite well.

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