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Re: VAR

by John Madejski's Wallet » 09 Dec 2019 11:30

Yeah no VAR cock-ups this weekend.

Interesting to see the red card overturned. Though it isn't going to be long before on-field yellow cards are also overturned. And quite rightly if the FA are already saying they are happy to correct the decisions of the refs, why are yellow cards exempt? A defender on a yellow card against a quick striker has to play very differently, and sometimes managers make subs on the back of yellows, so it has a big impact.

Now we're acknowledging linos are redundant, we may as well jump fully into this and look at every single important ref decision. Its not fair otherwise.

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by Franchise FC » 09 Dec 2019 11:36

John Madejski's Wallet Yeah no VAR cock-ups this weekend.

Interesting to see the red card overturned. Though it isn't going to be long before on-field yellow cards are also overturned. And quite rightly if the FA are already saying they are happy to correct the decisions of the refs, why are yellow cards exempt? A defender on a yellow card against a quick striker has to play very differently, and sometimes managers make subs on the back of yellows, so it has a big impact.

Now we're acknowledging linos are redundant, we may as well jump fully into this and look at every single important ref decision. Its not fair otherwise.


My pet hate is the handball situation.

Defender has the ball hit hand - can clear it, no action
Attacker has ball merely touch a part of arm or hand, even without changing the direction or speed of the ball and it's 'Nope, that's not allowed'.
I'm all for consistency and this isn't.

Also, the fact that we're celebrating the first 'no VAR cock-ups' weekend in DECEMBER is nothing short of a disgrace.

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Re: VAR

by URZZZZ » 15 Dec 2019 10:17

If VAR is going to continue, one way they can improve it is getting rid of the ridiculous handball rule, whoever thought that would be a good idea!

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by Franchise FC » 15 Dec 2019 10:55

URZZZZ If VAR is going to continue, one way they can improve it is getting rid of the ridiculous handball rule, whoever thought that would be a good idea!

Which one of yesterday’s decisions has riled you ?
Presumably the Villa one

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Re: VAR

by URZZZZ » 15 Dec 2019 11:30

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URZZZZ If VAR is going to continue, one way they can improve it is getting rid of the ridiculous handball rule, whoever thought that would be a good idea!

Which one of yesterday’s decisions has riled you ?
Presumably the Villa one


West Ham one

Haven’t seen the Villa one yet


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by John Madejski's Wallet » 15 Dec 2019 14:50

Interesting VAR didn't overrule the Everton goal. Had the ref actually seen it, that would normally have been disallowed. The commentators all seemed surprised it stood, I guess De Gea just didn't protest at the time and make the VAR check specific

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Re: VAR

by Sutekh » 15 Dec 2019 15:56

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URZZZZ If VAR is going to continue, one way they can improve it is getting rid of the ridiculous handball rule, whoever thought that would be a good idea!

Which one of yesterday’s decisions has riled you ?
Presumably the Villa one


West Ham one

Haven’t seen the Villa one yet


Didn’t think much of the decision to overrule Mane’s goal either.

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Re: VAR

by Franchise FC » 15 Dec 2019 19:14

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URZZZZ If VAR is going to continue, one way they can improve it is getting rid of the ridiculous handball rule, whoever thought that would be a good idea!

Which one of yesterday’s decisions has riled you ?
Presumably the Villa one


West Ham one

Haven’t seen the Villa one yet

That’s not a good example of the ridiculous handball rule as Antonio moved his hand to the ball :|

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Re: VAR

by Franchise FC » 15 Dec 2019 19:15

John Madejski's Wallet Interesting VAR didn't overrule the Everton goal. Had the ref actually seen it, that would normally have been disallowed. The commentators all seemed surprised it stood, I guess De Gea just didn't protest at the time and make the VAR check specific

Aren’t all goals checked ?


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Re: VAR

by Sanguine » 16 Dec 2019 09:47

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Presumably the Villa one


West Ham one

Haven’t seen the Villa one yet


Didn’t think much of the decision to overrule Mane’s goal either.


Well he was offside.

I did enjoy VAR showing later in the game that Salah was onside for his second goal because a Watford defender was sticking his arse out.

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Re: VAR

by Jack Celliers » 22 Dec 2019 18:34

VAR making the kind of mistake that VAR was brought into eliminate. Poor Son. Poor Anthony Taylor.

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by Simmops » 22 Dec 2019 18:35

Jack Celliers VAR making the kind of mistake that VAR was brought into eliminate. Poor Son. Poor Anthony Taylor.


It was a red

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by Franchise FC » 22 Dec 2019 18:48

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Jack Celliers VAR making the kind of mistake that VAR was brought into eliminate. Poor Son. Poor Anthony Taylor.


It was a red

Absolutely violent conduct


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by Victor Meldrew » 22 Dec 2019 19:19

Jack Celliers VAR making the kind of mistake that VAR was brought into eliminate. Poor Son. Poor Anthony Taylor.


Two major errors by Taylor correctly changed.
Son has previous don't forget.

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by Simmops » 22 Dec 2019 19:34

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Jack Celliers VAR making the kind of mistake that VAR was brought into eliminate. Poor Son. Poor Anthony Taylor.


Two major errors by Taylor correctly changed.
Son has previous don't forget.


He has previous?

No he does not.

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by Victor Meldrew » 22 Dec 2019 19:35

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Jack Celliers VAR making the kind of mistake that VAR was brought into eliminate. Poor Son. Poor Anthony Taylor.


Two major errors by Taylor correctly changed.
Son has previous don't forget.


He has previous?

No he does not.


Er... Everton away?

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Re: VAR

by URZZZZ » 22 Dec 2019 19:49

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Two major errors by Taylor correctly changed.
Son has previous don't forget.


He has previous?

No he does not.


Er... Everton away?


You can’t compare the two

On the one today, was probably a red card but I wouldn’t have given it just because of how Rudiger reacted. It’s just quite sad and pathetic how footballers act these days, they spend more time on the floor than anything else. Just ruining a good game

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Re: VAR

by Simmops » 22 Dec 2019 19:51

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Two major errors by Taylor correctly changed.
Son has previous don't forget.


He has previous?

No he does not.


Er... Everton away?


That was not on purpose.

Roy Keane has "previous "

Son does not.

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Re: VAR

by Victor Meldrew » 22 Dec 2019 20:00

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He has previous?

No he does not.


Er... Everton away?


You can’t compare the two

On the one today, was probably a red card but I wouldn’t have given it just because of how Rudiger reacted. It’s just quite sad and pathetic how footballers act these days, they spend more time on the floor than anything else. Just ruining a good game


Those are 2 different points.
I don't disagree that the way players act is spoiling the game-they argue (rightly or wrongly) that they need to exaggerate an incident to make sure that the ref sees a foul.
When players stay on their feet they often don't get a free kick when they have been the victim of a foul.

What Son did was petulant, in the way that the idiot Beckham did the same and arguably cost us any chance of success back whenever it was.
The petulance and intent were well worth a red card.
Rudiger then doubly suffered, firstly from whatever (minor?) pain there was and secondly because he was then apparently racially abused.

Not a great afternoon all round on a day when Chelsea's football was to be admired but the level of performance will now get lost.

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Re: VAR

by Simmops » 22 Dec 2019 20:15

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Er... Everton away?


You can’t compare the two

On the one today, was probably a red card but I wouldn’t have given it just because of how Rudiger reacted. It’s just quite sad and pathetic how footballers act these days, they spend more time on the floor than anything else. Just ruining a good game


Those are 2 different points.
I don't disagree that the way players act is spoiling the game-they argue (rightly or wrongly) that they need to exaggerate an incident to make sure that the ref sees a foul.
When players stay on their feet they often don't get a free kick when they have been the victim of a foul.

What Son did was petulant, in the way that the idiot Beckham did the same and arguably cost us any chance of success back whenever it was.
The petulance and intent were well worth a red card.
Rudiger then doubly suffered, firstly from whatever (minor?) pain there was and secondly because he was then apparently racially abused.

Not a great afternoon all round on a day when Chelsea's football was to be admired but the level of performance will now get lost.

.but you said he has previous when he doesn't. Because against Everton he did not mean it.

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