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Re: Champions League/Europa League 2019/20

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Re: Champions League/Europa League 2019/20

by Simmops » 16 Dec 2019 13:17

Tough tie for City. Does Pep leave if they don't win the CL?

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Re: Champions League/Europa League 2019/20

by Simmops » 16 Dec 2019 13:18

genome I thought Haaland played for RB Leipzig, turns out no, that's RB Salzburg. Does anyone else mix those two clubs up?


Yes.

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Re: Champions League/Europa League 2019/20

by Simmops » 16 Dec 2019 13:19

Werner the Burner is a great striker. Really underperformed at the 2018 WC though.

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Re: Champions League/Europa League 2019/20

by Stranded » 17 Dec 2019 11:00

See the latest plans for to revamp the CL in 2024/25 is:

Make the group stage one 32 team league.

Each side plays 10 games - against 10 teams - would imagine teams in Pot 1 (seeding will still exist) will get an easier schedule.

After 10 games, the top 8 clubs progress to the last 16.

Those finishing 9th to 24th will have a 2 legged play-off to qualify for the last 16.

Then usual knock out.

Means that finalists will play 17 games minimum, possibly 19.

Knock on in England will see all FA cup replays scrapped and the League Cup dropping the 2nd leg in the semis - could even see CL teams pulling out altogether - also some talk of dropping the PL down to 18 sides to free up fixture space.


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Re: Champions League/Europa League 2019/20

by Sutekh » 17 Dec 2019 11:23

Stranded See the latest plans for to revamp the CL in 2024/25 is:

Make the group stage one 32 team league.

Each side plays 10 games - against 10 teams - would imagine teams in Pot 1 (seeding will still exist) will get an easier schedule.

After 10 games, the top 8 clubs progress to the last 16.

Those finishing 9th to 24th will have a 2 legged play-off to qualify for the last 16.

Then usual knock out.

Means that finalists will play 17 games minimum, possibly 19.

Knock on in England will see all FA cup replays scrapped and the League Cup dropping the 2nd leg in the semis - could even see CL teams pulling out altogether - also some talk of dropping the PL down to 18 sides to free up fixture space.


Sure I’ve seen somewhere that the PL are actually set against this as are one or two other leagues. No doubt if it means yet more money though there’ll be a change of heart....

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Re: Champions League/Europa League 2019/20

by stealthpapes » 17 Dec 2019 11:24

Surely splitting into divisions would make more sense.

CONCACAF had something like this for the Gold Cup

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%8 ... ons_League

34 teams,
play 4 others
shambles.

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Re: Champions League/Europa League 2019/20

by Sanguine » 18 Dec 2019 10:14

Stranded See the latest plans for to revamp the CL in 2024/25 is:

Make the group stage one 32 team league.

Each side plays 10 games - against 10 teams - would imagine teams in Pot 1 (seeding will still exist) will get an easier schedule.

After 10 games, the top 8 clubs progress to the last 16.

Those finishing 9th to 24th will have a 2 legged play-off to qualify for the last 16.

Then usual knock out.

Means that finalists will play 17 games minimum, possibly 19.

Knock on in England will see all FA cup replays scrapped and the League Cup dropping the 2nd leg in the semis - could even see CL teams pulling out altogether - also some talk of dropping the PL down to 18 sides to free up fixture space.


Proposals unanimously rejected by European FA's.

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Re: Champions League/Europa League 2019/20

by Stranded » 18 Dec 2019 13:16

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Stranded See the latest plans for to revamp the CL in 2024/25 is:

Make the group stage one 32 team league.

Each side plays 10 games - against 10 teams - would imagine teams in Pot 1 (seeding will still exist) will get an easier schedule.

After 10 games, the top 8 clubs progress to the last 16.

Those finishing 9th to 24th will have a 2 legged play-off to qualify for the last 16.

Then usual knock out.

Means that finalists will play 17 games minimum, possibly 19.

Knock on in England will see all FA cup replays scrapped and the League Cup dropping the 2nd leg in the semis - could even see CL teams pulling out altogether - also some talk of dropping the PL down to 18 sides to free up fixture space.


Proposals unanimously rejected by European FA's.


Good good.


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Re: Champions League/Europa League 2019/20

by Stranded » 16 Jan 2020 10:23

Another report on potential changes to the Champions League from 2024.

In short, 4 more games to be added - either by making all groups 6 teams - so each side playing 10 groups games before the knock out stages or another group stage at the QF round.

If this happens, likely CL qualified teams would have to drop out of the League Cup or be allowed to enter their u23 side as CL and League Cup games would have to be played at the same time.

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Re: Champions League/Europa League 2019/20

by Winston Biscuit » 16 Jan 2020 13:53

UEFA pushing us further towards a 'European super league'

saying that, I have said many time that I am bang up for a complete change to the League Cup. Make it a British cup, make the early rounds regional, the FA can cover some/all of teh costs of travel if over a certain mileage for lower league clubs.

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Re: Champions League/Europa League 2019/20

by Stranded » 16 Jan 2020 14:21

Winston Biscuit UEFA pushing us further towards a 'European super league'

saying that, I have said many time that I am bang up for a complete change to the League Cup. Make it a British cup, make the early rounds regional, the FA can cover some/all of teh costs of travel if over a certain mileage for lower league clubs.


Not sure where the interest would be in a British Cup to be honest. Would you be that interested if we get to the first "national" round and get drawn at home to Inverness, Linfield or Barry Town?

Only interesting tie would be home or away (pref away) to either of Celtic or Rangers - and possibly a trip to Edinburgh, more for the city than the football.

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Re: Champions League/Europa League 2019/20

by Winston Biscuit » 16 Jan 2020 14:24

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Winston Biscuit UEFA pushing us further towards a 'European super league'

saying that, I have said many time that I am bang up for a complete change to the League Cup. Make it a British cup, make the early rounds regional, the FA can cover some/all of teh costs of travel if over a certain mileage for lower league clubs.


Not sure where the interest would be in a British Cup to be honest. Would you be that interested if we get to the first "national" round and get drawn at home to Inverness, Linfield or Barry Town?

Only interesting tie would be home or away (pref away) to either of Celtic or Rangers - and possibly a trip to Edinburgh, more for the city than the football.


each tie to be played at the home of the lower division side and you have your interest


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Re: Champions League/Europa League 2019/20

by Stranded » 16 Jan 2020 14:31

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Winston Biscuit UEFA pushing us further towards a 'European super league'

saying that, I have said many time that I am bang up for a complete change to the League Cup. Make it a British cup, make the early rounds regional, the FA can cover some/all of teh costs of travel if over a certain mileage for lower league clubs.


Not sure where the interest would be in a British Cup to be honest. Would you be that interested if we get to the first "national" round and get drawn at home to Inverness, Linfield or Barry Town?

Only interesting tie would be home or away (pref away) to either of Celtic or Rangers - and possibly a trip to Edinburgh, more for the city than the football.


each tie to be played at the home of the lower division side and you have your interest


Really?

Define the lower division side - Welsh Premier V League 2 who is lower? League 2 of the higher UEFA Coefficient league or the Welsh top flight?

Scottish Prem v Championship - who is Lower? Championship is probably the stronger division but Scots Prem is again the top flight. Where is in the interest in Blackburn getting a home tie against Kilmarnock? or vice versa

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Re: Champions League/Europa League 2019/20

by Hendo » 16 Jan 2020 14:31

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Winston Biscuit UEFA pushing us further towards a 'European super league'

saying that, I have said many time that I am bang up for a complete change to the League Cup. Make it a British cup, make the early rounds regional, the FA can cover some/all of teh costs of travel if over a certain mileage for lower league clubs.


Not sure where the interest would be in a British Cup to be honest. Would you be that interested if we get to the first "national" round and get drawn at home to Inverness, Linfield or Barry Town?

Only interesting tie would be home or away (pref away) to either of Celtic or Rangers - and possibly a trip to Edinburgh, more for the city than the football.


each tie to be played at the home of the lower division side and you have your interest


Its how the Copa Del Rey works, isn't it?

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Re: Champions League/Europa League 2019/20

by Winston Biscuit » 16 Jan 2020 14:39

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Not sure where the interest would be in a British Cup to be honest. Would you be that interested if we get to the first "national" round and get drawn at home to Inverness, Linfield or Barry Town?

Only interesting tie would be home or away (pref away) to either of Celtic or Rangers - and possibly a trip to Edinburgh, more for the city than the football.


each tie to be played at the home of the lower division side and you have your interest


Really?

Define the lower division side - Welsh Premier V League 2 who is lower? League 2 of the higher UEFA Coefficient league or the Welsh top flight?

Scottish Prem v Championship - who is Lower? Championship is probably the stronger division but Scots Prem is again the top flight. Where is in the interest in Blackburn getting a home tie against Kilmarnock? or vice versa


Premier League
SPL
Championship
Scottish Championship
League 1
League 2
Scottish League 1
Scottish League 2
Welsh Premier League

Where is in the interest in Blackburn getting a home tie against Kilmarnock?


same place the interest comes from when it's Blackburn getting a home time against, say, Exeter

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Re: Champions League/Europa League 2019/20

by Stranded » 16 Jan 2020 14:46

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each tie to be played at the home of the lower division side and you have your interest


Really?

Define the lower division side - Welsh Premier V League 2 who is lower? League 2 of the higher UEFA Coefficient league or the Welsh top flight?

Scottish Prem v Championship - who is Lower? Championship is probably the stronger division but Scots Prem is again the top flight. Where is in the interest in Blackburn getting a home tie against Kilmarnock? or vice versa


Premier League
SPL
Championship
Scottish Championship
League 1
League 2
Scottish League 1
Scottish League 2
Welsh Premier League

Where is in the interest in Blackburn getting a home tie against Kilmarnock?


same place the interest comes from when it's Blackburn getting a home time against, say, Exeter


The N.Ireland Premier League will be chuffed. Fair listing but would have the WPL ahead of the Scottish lower divisions.

British Cup is one of those things that in theory sounds great but realistically will be absolute bobbins - there will be no interest in fixtures not involving the big 6 in England and the 2 Old Firm clubs. Lower league clubs often struggle to sell tickets to cup games v PL sides as people expect the kids. Add in to the mix that the bigger clubs in England may not even enter and its dead before it even begins IMO.

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Where is in the interest in Blackburn getting a home tie against Kilmarnock?


same place the interest comes from when it's Blackburn getting a home time against, say, Exeter


So cheap tickets and vast empty stands then? Take our game in the week, attendance at Blackpool was about half their normal attendance. Not sure you'd see much more if you replaced Reading with St.Mirren.
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Re: Champions League/Europa League 2019/20

by Winston Biscuit » 16 Jan 2020 14:49

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Really?

Define the lower division side - Welsh Premier V League 2 who is lower? League 2 of the higher UEFA Coefficient league or the Welsh top flight?

Scottish Prem v Championship - who is Lower? Championship is probably the stronger division but Scots Prem is again the top flight. Where is in the interest in Blackburn getting a home tie against Kilmarnock? or vice versa


Premier League
SPL
Championship
Scottish Championship
League 1
League 2
Scottish League 1
Scottish League 2
Welsh Premier League

Where is in the interest in Blackburn getting a home tie against Kilmarnock?


same place the interest comes from when it's Blackburn getting a home time against, say, Exeter


The N.Ireland Premier League will be chuffed. Fair listing but would have the WPL ahead of the Scottish lower divisions.

British Cup is one of those things that in theory sounds great but realistically will be absolute bobbins - there will be no interest in fixtures not involving the big 6 in England and the 2 Old Firm clubs. Lower league clubs often struggle to sell tickets to cup games v PL sides as people expect the kids. Add in to the mix that the bigger clubs in England may not even enter and its dead before it even begins IMO.

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Where is in the interest in Blackburn getting a home tie against Kilmarnock?


same place the interest comes from when it's Blackburn getting a home time against, say, Exeter


So cheap tickets and vast empty stands then?


you stay at home and be a misery guts, I am already logging on trying to buy tickets for our midweek away trip to Stenhousemuir !

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Re: Champions League/Europa League 2019/20

by From Despair To Where? » 16 Jan 2020 20:22

There used to be an Anglo Scottish Cup in the 70's and 80's. Nottingham Forest actually won it the year before they won the league. It was played in the summer so imagine most clubs treated it as a pre season friendly tournament..

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Re: Champions League/Europa League 2019/20

by sheshnu » 16 Jan 2020 20:48

There were a couple of (English) National League sides, along with some Irish lads, in the Scottish Wafer Biscuit Cup this year. I don't know how long that's been going on.

Possibly some Welsh sides in there too. As far as I can tell, it was mildly diverting for those involved.

Anyway, time to scrap the League Cup probably.

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