Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Hendo » 15 Aug 2019 16:45

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Sanguine Lolz, so was I.

Thankfully though you and I are normal people, and not unpleasant like SP.


I did think they were L1 as I remember seeing 2 teams on -points, but just went with WB post :lol:


strong lesson for you there, never listen to the internet's Winston Biscuit


It is certainly a mistake I won't be making a second time!!

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Sutekh » 15 Aug 2019 17:23

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Winston Biscuit how would their expulsion effect relegation? Do they finish bottom and are one of 2 teams to go down as usual? are they booted out and they run a 23 team league for a season with 2 still going down then 3 coming up?


I guess it would be the former? Not too sure though.


Would it just mean relegation though? Presumably they could be thrown out of the league altogether meaning a 23 team division 3 (L1) with three relegated while
Division 4 (L2) would just have the one relegation place.

Meanwhile Bury would have to seek election to another league.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Hendo » 15 Aug 2019 17:26

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Winston Biscuit how would their expulsion effect relegation? Do they finish bottom and are one of 2 teams to go down as usual? are they booted out and they run a 23 team league for a season with 2 still going down then 3 coming up?


I guess it would be the former? Not too sure though.


Would it just mean relegation though? Presumably they could be thrown out of the league altogether meaning a 23 team division 3 (L1) with three relegated while
Division 4 (L2) would just have the one relegation place.

Meanwhile Bury would have to seek election to another league.


You'd have thought they would try and start again as a Phoenix club like AFC Wimbledon.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Winston Biscuit » 15 Aug 2019 17:38

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Winston Biscuit how would their expulsion effect relegation? Do they finish bottom and are one of 2 teams to go down as usual? are they booted out and they run a 23 team league for a season with 2 still going down then 3 coming up?


I guess it would be the former? Not too sure though.


Would it just mean relegation though?


Oh it would absolutely mean booting out the league. I am just talking more about what happens to their place in the league. Not allowing them to have played a game leaves the FA's options quite open

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by The Enfield Royal71 » 15 Aug 2019 17:47

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The former - you'd just have one team relegated this season rather than two.

As an aside and not 'financial crisis', Man City's paltry £315k fine for tapping up academy players is laughable.


4 go down from that league. I genuinely thought anyone that knows even the smallest thing about football would know that.


Two teams go down from League Two.


:lol:

Touch of the Syria in Africa you got there.


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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Sanguine » 16 Aug 2019 09:30

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4 go down from that league. I genuinely thought anyone that knows even the smallest thing about football would know that.


Two teams go down from League Two.


:lol:

Touch of the Syria in Africa you got there.


Catch up pal, we did that already.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by The Enfield Royal71 » 16 Aug 2019 10:03

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Two teams go down from League Two.


:lol:

Touch of the Syria in Africa you got there.


Catch up pal, we did that already.


:lol:

Do you know how many teams get promoted from League 2?

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Winston Biscuit » 16 Aug 2019 10:36

I can't help but feel partially responsible for this

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Stranded » 16 Aug 2019 10:58

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I guess it would be the former? Not too sure though.


Would it just mean relegation though?


Oh it would absolutely mean booting out the league. I am just talking more about what happens to their place in the league. Not allowing them to have played a game leaves the FA's options quite open


Going on what has happened in the past - Bury wll simply never have existed as far as the 2019/20, so each team will play 44 games. It will likely through up an anomoly at the end of the season in that Bury's last 2 games are Pompey and Fleetwood - both fancied to be around the play-offs this year (or auto) - could see Fleetwood play their final league game on 25th April and potentially have a 10 day gap to the play-off semi finals. Would that be a blessing or a curse?

As for other matters, would expect 3 to go down from L1 and usual promotion from L2 - open question would be if the decide to remove a relegation spot from L2 or decide to award a 3rd spot from the National League. Would probably prefer the latter as better to reward a good side than protect a poor one.


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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Sanguine » 16 Aug 2019 11:00

On that point around the final fixtures, I wonder if the league would reschedule to ensure all teams played on the last day?

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Stranded » 16 Aug 2019 12:58

Sanguine On that point around the final fixtures, I wonder if the league would reschedule to ensure all teams played on the last day?


Not sure how you can ensure 23 teams all play at the same time?

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Sanguine » 16 Aug 2019 13:23

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Sanguine On that point around the final fixtures, I wonder if the league would reschedule to ensure all teams played on the last day?


Not sure how you can ensure 23 teams all play at the same time?


There was that experiment once with a triangle shaped pitch and three goals.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Old Man Andrews » 16 Aug 2019 13:58

TalkSport managed to get the Bury chairman and a player on the air this morning to have a row. The Chairman comes over like an unsympathetic moron.


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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by The Enfield Royal71 » 16 Aug 2019 14:12

Winston Biscuit I can't help but feel partially responsible for this


No you aren't responsible for Sanguine being an utter bumbling idiot :lol:

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by The Enfield Royal71 » 16 Aug 2019 14:12

Old Man Andrews TalkSport managed to get the Bury chairman and a player on the air this morning to have a row. The Chairman comes over like an unsympathetic moron.


Isn't he the guy who says efl have an agenda on them? Or not?

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by The Enfield Royal71 » 16 Aug 2019 14:13

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Sanguine On that point around the final fixtures, I wonder if the league would reschedule to ensure all teams played on the last day?


Not sure how you can ensure 23 teams all play at the same time?


There was that experiment once with a triangle shaped pitch and three goals.


:lol:

You are on a roll of mistakes today!
Give up Sanguine. This never happened

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by tmesis » 16 Aug 2019 20:51

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As for other matters, would expect 3 to go down from L1 and usual promotion from L2 - open question would be if the decide to remove a relegation spot from L2 or decide to award a 3rd spot from the National League. Would probably prefer the latter as better to reward a good side than protect a poor one.

Other than maybe at feeder league level, when leagues will accept clubs to make up the numbers, I think vacant spots are always filled by reprieving clubs from relegation, not promoting extra ones.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by genome » 16 Aug 2019 21:34

Anyone else see the Talksport interview with Jim White, Martin Keown, Bury's owner and one of their players?

It's absolutely superb radio

https://twitter.com/talkSPORT/status/11 ... 8604237824

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Deadlock » 16 Aug 2019 22:42

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Sanguine On that point around the final fixtures, I wonder if the league would reschedule to ensure all teams played on the last day?


Not sure how you can ensure 23 teams all play at the same time?

You could always hope Bolton fold as well.

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