New manager rumours and speculation

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by elrey » 28 May 2023 05:51

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yeah the unknown Scottish League, European Cup Winners cup, Supercup winner and Scottish PFA player of the year .

Who was recommended to the chairman by his ex boss the unknown Alex Ferguson.


He had NO MANAGERIAL EXPERIENCE.... sigh. He was an UNKNOWN ENTITY as a MANAGER.


So a very well known and decorated Scottish footballer who came with a recommendation from possibly the greatest British manager ever but he had no previous management experience.

Got it.


Frank Lampard, Steven Gerrard, Wayne Rooney, some of the best players of their generation, not very good managers.

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by elrey » 28 May 2023 06:02

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yeah the unknown Scottish League, European Cup Winners cup, Supercup winner and Scottish PFA player of the year .

Who was recommended to the chairman by his ex boss the unknown Alex Ferguson.


He had NO MANAGERIAL EXPERIENCE.... sigh. He was an UNKNOWN ENTITY as a MANAGER.


This is it, if you have someone like a Ferguson or Klopp or Guardiola recommending an unknown then you take notice. When it's johnny agent then you should take it with a pinch of salt.


How highly regarded was Paul Clement?

search.php?keywords=clement+highly+regarded&fid%5B0%5D=1

"but the 45-year-old is still said to be highly regarded in the coaching game"

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=139676&hilit=paul+clement&start=460

"I’d love Clement."

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by South Coast Royal » 28 May 2023 10:54

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He had NO MANAGERIAL EXPERIENCE.... sigh. He was an UNKNOWN ENTITY as a MANAGER.


So a very well known and decorated Scottish footballer who came with a recommendation from possibly the greatest British manager ever but he had no previous management experience.

Got it.


Frank Lampard, Steven Gerrard, Wayne Rooney, some of the best players of their generation, not very good managers.


Ditto:-

Bobby Moore, Bobby Charlton, Nobby Stiles ,Gary Neville etc., etc.
There is no set blue print for the ideal manager.

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by AthleticoSpizz » 28 May 2023 19:45

Steve Coppell, Charlie Hurley, being obvious exceptions to that rule…obvs?

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by leon » 28 May 2023 22:14

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So a very well known and decorated Scottish footballer who came with a recommendation from possibly the greatest British manager ever but he had no previous management experience.

Got it.


Frank Lampard, Steven Gerrard, Wayne Rooney, some of the best players of their generation, not very good managers.


Ditto:-

Bobby Moore, Bobby Charlton, Nobby Stiles ,Gary Neville etc., etc.
There is no set blue print for the ideal manager.


Yes agreed wholeheartedly but they weren’t unknown.


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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by leon » 28 May 2023 22:16

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He had NO MANAGERIAL EXPERIENCE.... sigh. He was an UNKNOWN ENTITY as a MANAGER.


This is it, if you have someone like a Ferguson or Klopp or Guardiola recommending an unknown then you take notice. When it's johnny agent then you should take it with a pinch of salt.


How highly regarded was Paul Clement?

https://hobnob.royals.org/forum/search. ... d%5B0%5D=1

"but the 45-year-old is still said to be highly regarded in the coaching game"

https://hobnob.royals.org/forum/viewtop ... &start=460

"I’d love Clement."


I thought he was a terrible choice. And when he first did an interview I was convinced. He was a shit thick as pig shit.

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by AthleticoSpizz » 28 May 2023 23:15

‘Perfect” for us at that time

The whole club was pig-shit-thick

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by elrey » 29 May 2023 04:18

AthleticoSpizz Steve Coppell, Charlie Hurley, being obvious exceptions to that rule…obvs?


There are those who make it, how many of the current crop of Champions League winners won the Champions League as players?

Guardiola, Anchelloti

https://www.sportingnews.com/in/soccer/ ... rcelona%20

Here are 7 that have done it, that's the last manager to win, the 2020 final winning manager lost the final as a player, 2016-2018 was Zidane, Luis Enrique the year before that hasn't won it as a player but was a top player... so...

The point is there's no clear obvious thing that decides whether a player will become a top manager or not, it can happen, most of the time it fails.

Sometimes it's about take a pun on someone because you interview them and they come across as being the sort of person you'd want as manager.

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by elrey » 29 May 2023 04:19

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This is it, if you have someone like a Ferguson or Klopp or Guardiola recommending an unknown then you take notice. When it's johnny agent then you should take it with a pinch of salt.


How highly regarded was Paul Clement?

search.php?keywords=clement+highly+regarded&fid%5B0%5D=1

"but the 45-year-old is still said to be highly regarded in the coaching game"

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=139676&hilit=paul+clement&start=460

"I’d love Clement."


I thought he was a terrible choice. And when he first did an interview I was convinced. He was a shit thick as pig shit.


Same with quite a few managers who managed to get a reputation but nobody knows how.


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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by elrey » 29 May 2023 04:22

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Frank Lampard, Steven Gerrard, Wayne Rooney, some of the best players of their generation, not very good managers.


Ditto:-

Bobby Moore, Bobby Charlton, Nobby Stiles ,Gary Neville etc., etc.
There is no set blue print for the ideal manager.


Yes agreed wholeheartedly but they weren’t unknown.


But were as managers. When Neville went to Valencia, who knew what they'd get?

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by Sutekh » 29 May 2023 06:57

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Ditto:-

Bobby Moore, Bobby Charlton, Nobby Stiles ,Gary Neville etc., etc.
There is no set blue print for the ideal manager.


Yes agreed wholeheartedly but they weren’t unknown.


But were as managers. When Neville went to Valencia, who knew what they'd get?


Oh, I think we knew what they'd get.

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by Royal_jimmy » 29 May 2023 07:26

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Ditto:-

Bobby Moore, Bobby Charlton, Nobby Stiles ,Gary Neville etc., etc.
There is no set blue print for the ideal manager.


Yes agreed wholeheartedly but they weren’t unknown.


But were as managers. When Neville went to Valencia, who knew what they'd get?


Rooney, Lampard and Gerrard have had some success just not pulled up trees overly either.

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by elrey » 30 May 2023 01:30

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Yes agreed wholeheartedly but they weren’t unknown.


But were as managers. When Neville went to Valencia, who knew what they'd get?


Oh, I think we knew what they'd get.


But you don't. With hindsight it's easy, but at the time, who knew if he'd become the next best thing or not.

Zidane... who'd think he'd win the Champions League three times in a row, I still can't believe it, I'm still waiting for him to go to another club and absolutely mess it up.


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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by elrey » 30 May 2023 01:39

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Yes agreed wholeheartedly but they weren’t unknown.


But were as managers. When Neville went to Valencia, who knew what they'd get?


Rooney, Lampard and Gerrard have had some success just not pulled up trees overly either.


"some success" being, none really.

Gerrard was at Rangers and did okay, finishing 2nd two seasons in a row, then winning the league one season before jumping ship. Van Bronckhorst then took Rangers to the final of the Europa League (and finished 2nd) Villa... well... Villa are much better off without him.

Lampard.... is now considered a joke of a manager.

Rooney doing average with Derby, WIth DC he's 8th in the eastern league and 12th overall. Finished 28th overall last season, 14th in the eastern league from a team that finished 16th overall and 8th in their league.

So, he made them worse, and now has them where they were two years ago.

Could have been worse. Could be Lampard... but...

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by Royal Monkey » 30 May 2023 05:45

On the 1871 podcast that went out last night they started by saying they believe Chris Wilder will be our new manager and it will be announced this week, maybe even today ??
Hope their right will be a great appointment!

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by Sutekh » 30 May 2023 07:35

Royal Monkey On the 1871 podcast that went out last night they started by saying they believe Chris Wilder will be our new manager and it will be announced this week, maybe even today ??
Hope their right will be a great appointment!


Absolutely, but they're probably just looking at the betting and twitter frenzy, sadly I don't think they're any more ITK than anyone on this board.

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by Royal Monkey » 30 May 2023 07:49

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Royal Monkey On the 1871 podcast that went out last night they started by saying they believe Chris Wilder will be our new manager and it will be announced this week, maybe even today ??
Hope their right will be a great appointment!


Absolutely, but they're probably just looking at the betting and twitter frenzy, sadly I don't think they're any more ITK than anyone on this board.


Really cos he said it like he absolutely knew it was happening!

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by Sutekh » 30 May 2023 08:42

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Royal Monkey On the 1871 podcast that went out last night they started by saying they believe Chris Wilder will be our new manager and it will be announced this week, maybe even today ??
Hope their right will be a great appointment!


Absolutely, but they're probably just looking at the betting and twitter frenzy, sadly I don't think they're any more ITK than anyone on this board.


Really cos he said it like he absolutely knew it was happening!


Well let's all hope so.... #prayforchris

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by Winston Biscuit » 30 May 2023 10:35

already printed up some Going Wild t-shirts where I I have switched out Chris Packham's head with Wilders and some 'Born To Be Wild(er)' T-Shirts where Wilder Is on an Easy Rider style motorbike.

hope I have not wasted my money

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Re: New manager rumours and speculation

by Pepe the Horseman » 30 May 2023 13:23

Do y'all remember when Big Mike convinced everyone Gyfli was re-signing...

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