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Re: Potential New Owners

by SouthDownsRoyal » 09 Jun 2023 10:20

Weymouth Royal Whilst we 'hope' Bowen has big sway here now, he still doesn't. He wanted Ince gone in January and Dai said no. Dai does what he wants, and still listens to his mate Kia. I wouldn't be surprised if Bowen wants Wilder, Wilder wants to come as we've heard, but it's the dickhead owner and his best mate pushing back and throwing this appointment into jeopardy.


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Re: Potential New Owners

by Hendo » 09 Jun 2023 10:22

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Royal_jimmy Yeah he's clearly a micro-manager. Stepped in to block the sales of Swift and Moore who we could have got £11m for the pair for instance.


And in hindsight that would have been good. But at the time they were 2 of our best players and we were trying to get up as quickly as possible.

Obviously the responsibility falls on him for where we've ended up but if you were looking to gain promotion then you'd want to keep your better players.

What were the figures quoted for Swift? We'd have definitely gone down a year earlier without him, possibly still under an embargo. So keeping him was easily worth £5m - £10m for us, which is probably more than any fee on offer.

Granted the Moore decision was a disaster, and you're also forgetting Loader too.


Yeah, agree with this. Keeping hold of Swift was probably the correct choice, the Moore and Loader ones, a little less so.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 09 Jun 2023 12:25

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Royal_jimmy Yeah he's clearly a micro-manager. Stepped in to block the sales of Swift and Moore who we could have got £11m for the pair for instance.


And in hindsight that would have been good. But at the time they were 2 of our best players and we were trying to get up as quickly as possible.

Obviously the responsibility falls on him for where we've ended up but if you were looking to gain promotion then you'd want to keep your better players.

What were the figures quoted for Swift? We'd have definitely gone down a year earlier without him, possibly still under an embargo. So keeping him was easily worth £5m - £10m for us, which is probably more than any fee on offer.

Granted the Moore decision was a disaster, and you're also forgetting Loader too.


Not 100% sure on Swift although I think there was a rumour than Sheff United "bid" £3.5m for him, so yes definitely worth keeping hold of him for that.

Loader went on a free didn't he? The only thing we lost out with Loader was potentially a decent transfer fee if he had a longer contract, but he wasn't that impressive whilst he was with us anyway.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by Hound » 09 Jun 2023 12:56

There was rumours of a 7m for Swift but yeah I think it sounds like there was an actual offer of about 3.5 for him. Prob wasn’t worth selling for that at the time

Moore was the real killer - partly because of not just the cash transfer fee but the resulting new contract which cost us an absolute fortune

That non sale and contract alone was prob the difference between failing FFP or not. Though Dai would have no doubts blown some cash on someone else useless instead

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Re: Potential New Owners

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 09 Jun 2023 17:08

Hound There was rumours of a 7m for Swift but yeah I think it sounds like there was an actual offer of about 3.5 for him. Prob wasn’t worth selling for that at the time

Moore was the real killer - partly because of not just the cash transfer fee but the resulting new contract which cost us an absolute fortune

That non sale and contract alone was prob the difference between failing FFP or not. Though Dai would have no doubts blown some cash on someone else useless instead


Yeah that's my thoughts on Moore, the £10m (or whatever the rumoured fee was) alongside the £1.5m saved every year on his wages may have been the difference.


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Re: Potential New Owners

by blythspartan » 09 Jun 2023 18:24

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Hound There was rumours of a 7m for Swift but yeah I think it sounds like there was an actual offer of about 3.5 for him. Prob wasn’t worth selling for that at the time

Moore was the real killer - partly because of not just the cash transfer fee but the resulting new contract which cost us an absolute fortune

That non sale and contract alone was prob the difference between failing FFP or not. Though Dai would have no doubts blown some cash on someone else useless instead


Yeah that's my thoughts on Moore, the £10m (or whatever the rumoured fee was) alongside the £1.5m saved every year on his wages may have been the difference.


Tbh it’s a bit pointless pondering about what’s happened in the past a bit like life really. Dai has made some terrible decisions but has hopefully now learned from his mistakes.

All I want is a good manager appointed before the preseason friendlies start and for the club to make some astute signings.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by Clyde1998 » 09 Jun 2023 18:50

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Hound There was rumours of a 7m for Swift but yeah I think it sounds like there was an actual offer of about 3.5 for him. Prob wasn’t worth selling for that at the time

Moore was the real killer - partly because of not just the cash transfer fee but the resulting new contract which cost us an absolute fortune

That non sale and contract alone was prob the difference between failing FFP or not. Though Dai would have no doubts blown some cash on someone else useless instead


Yeah that's my thoughts on Moore, the £10m (or whatever the rumoured fee was) alongside the £1.5m saved every year on his wages may have been the difference.

And we could've got a centre-back of a similar ability (or would improve to a similar ability within a season) for a fraction of that - especially as we signed him for £1.5m.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by Snowflake Royal » 10 Jun 2023 09:57

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Royal_jimmy Yeah he's clearly a micro-manager. Stepped in to block the sales of Swift and Moore who we could have got £11m for the pair for instance.


And in hindsight that would have been good. But at the time they were 2 of our best players and we were trying to get up as quickly as possible.

Obviously the responsibility falls on him for where we've ended up but if you were looking to gain promotion then you'd want to keep your better players.

Yeah, what oxf*rd idiots McDermott, Hammond and Madejski were selling Long and Sigurdsson and preventing us going up so we could be vaguely sustainable.

If only we'd refused to sell and put them on 10 year contracts for a billion a week.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by Royal_jimmy » 10 Jun 2023 20:49

Brentford did the same things and went up regardless


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Re: Potential New Owners

by Snowflake Royal » 11 Jun 2023 12:03

Championship clubs who don't regularly sell their best players are doing football wrong.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by Royal_jimmy » 12 Jun 2023 07:36

Snowflake Royal Championship clubs who don't regularly sell their best players are doing football wrong.


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Re: Potential New Owners

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 12 Jun 2023 18:55

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Royal_jimmy Yeah he's clearly a micro-manager. Stepped in to block the sales of Swift and Moore who we could have got £11m for the pair for instance.


And in hindsight that would have been good. But at the time they were 2 of our best players and we were trying to get up as quickly as possible.

Obviously the responsibility falls on him for where we've ended up but if you were looking to gain promotion then you'd want to keep your better players.

Yeah, what oxf*rd idiots McDermott, Hammond and Madejski were selling Long and Sigurdsson and preventing us going up so we could be vaguely sustainable.

If only we'd refused to sell and put them on 10 year contracts for a billion a week.


On the flip side of it though, teams who regularly sell their best players don't always succeed either, plenty of examples in the top 2 divisions of this being the case as well.

Agree with the point though, I do think you need to move a player on for a sizeable fee every season or two to be sustainable and hopefully improve. But a lot of teams in most divisions have their window of opportunity and if you keep consistently selling, you will eventually get caught out.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by morganb » 13 Jun 2023 23:22

https://twitter.com/Smudgersport/status ... EDIPw&s=19

I've heard from several sources now that the #readingfc hierarchy has disappeared without trace and Dai Yongge is looking to sell... which is holding up Wilder's appointment and may even scupper it. Hoping there's a grand masterplan behind it all, but I doubt it.


Also in comments

American buyer interested but owners haven’t even responded to the proposal. Wilder has asked for more money but again no response from owners!


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Re: Potential New Owners

by WestYorksRoyal » 13 Jun 2023 23:40

Just rumours but sadly very believable.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by tidus_mi2 » 14 Jun 2023 00:03

Some guy says something on twitter and everyone believes it.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by Linden Jones' Tash » 14 Jun 2023 06:42

Of all the noise on Twitter, this guy used to be a long time local journalist so he may have the sources he claims.

Interesting times ahead.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by WestYorksRoyal » 14 Jun 2023 07:55

Can SJM afford a rescue job? The SCL guys? Maybe go round with a collection bucket for a fan led takeover?

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Re: Potential New Owners

by Stranded » 14 Jun 2023 08:10

tidus_mi2 Some guy says something on twitter and everyone believes it.


He is a little bit more than a random tweeter, so whilst a rumour, it is one that should be treated with some respect. Doesn't mean it's true of course but it fits the current situation.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by Sutekh » 14 Jun 2023 08:19

WestYorksRoyal Can SJM afford a rescue job? The SCL guys? Maybe go round with a collection bucket for a fan led takeover?


In for Ian at the head of a fan led take over

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Re: Potential New Owners

by blythspartan » 14 Jun 2023 08:28

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tidus_mi2 Some guy says something on twitter and everyone believes it.


He is a little bit more than a random tweeter, so whilst a rumour, it is one that should be treated with some respect. Doesn't mean it's true of course but it fits the current situation.


Sadly, this is very believable. I can see another 12 points deduction incoming. I think we have much more pain ahead tbh.

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