Potential New Owners

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Re: Potential New Owners

by On Strings » 07 Jun 2023 09:09

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Oh, it's beneficial to have a chairman not fully committed then? :roll:


It's just template nonsense to appease fans being vocal on social media about the silence from the club post relegation.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by Anfield Royal » 07 Jun 2023 09:11

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On Strings James Earnshaw quoting our illustrious leader as being fully commited to RFC's rebuild... Wonderful.


Oh, it's beneficial to have a chairman not fully committed then? :roll:


It's just template nonsense to appease fans being vocal on social media about the silence from the club post relegation.


So committed that's he's open to selling lol. US and Middle Eastern interest in recent months.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by Stranded » 07 Jun 2023 09:51

And bingo.

Club say nothing, disgraceful.

Statement about commitment in the public domain - well it's just words isn't it.

Shows the continued pointlessness of statements.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by PATRIQT » 07 Jun 2023 10:33

Exactly. What we need from Dai is a face-to-face interview and finally hear from him why he bought the club, what his vision/ambitions are for us, and for us to get some sense of where are with that plan. Even the Chinese CEO is hardly present at the SCL/Bearwood.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by Orion1871 » 07 Jun 2023 11:46

Surely, the "statement" from the club was in the Bowen open letter after the points deduction? There isn't anything to cover that wasn't already said in the letter. He set out the vision of what they want to achieve in the future in the letter.

It's also pretty obvious by now that we are never going to hear from the owner directly outside of an obviously prepared statement if when we sack/hire a manager, or sign players. So there really isn't much point moaning about whether he talks or not.


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Re: Potential New Owners

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 07 Jun 2023 12:38

Yeah I don't see why it's a big deal that we don't hear directly from the owner. He employees people like Bowen to do the talking for him, he will set out the strategy to Bowen and co and then they will address the relevant information to those who need to know.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by TiagoIlori » 07 Jun 2023 12:52

Don’t care much about a statement, it’s alarming there’s nothing that a journalist can pass on though.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by Snowflake Royal » 07 Jun 2023 13:48

PATRIQT Exactly. What we need from Dai is a face-to-face interview and finally hear from him why he bought the club, what his vision/ambitions are for us, and for us to get some sense of where are with that plan. Even the Chinese CEO is hardly present at the SCL/Bearwood.

What we need from Dai is as little involvement as possible.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by On Strings » 07 Jun 2023 13:58

Snowflake Royal What we need from Dai is as little involvement as possible.


That's right, Ian. Dai still rely's a lot on Kia, so we're in safe hands...



Kia was at our last home game fwiw. Still involved in some capicity.


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Re: Potential New Owners

by Weymouth Royal » 07 Jun 2023 14:02

Whilst we 'hope' Bowen has big sway here now, he still doesn't. He wanted Ince gone in January and Dai said no. Dai does what he wants, and still listens to his mate Kia. I wouldn't be surprised if Bowen wants Wilder, Wilder wants to come as we've heard, but it's the dickhead owner and his best mate pushing back and throwing this appointment into jeopardy.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by Pepe the Horseman » 07 Jun 2023 14:36

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Snowflake Royal What we need from Dai is as little involvement as possible.


That's right, Ian. Dai still rely's a lot on Kia, so we're in safe hands...



Kia was at our last home game fwiw. Still involved in some capicity.

Would be great to get a statement from Kia around his continued support.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by Sutekh » 07 Jun 2023 14:51

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Snowflake Royal What we need from Dai is as little involvement as possible.


That's right, Ian. Dai still rely's a lot on Kia, so we're in safe hands...



Kia was at our last home game fwiw. Still involved in some capicity.

Would be great to get a statement from Kia around his continued support.


As he's a friend of Mr Dai, he's always going to "be involved".

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Re: Potential New Owners

by Snowflake Royal » 07 Jun 2023 17:15

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Snowflake Royal What we need from Dai is as little involvement as possible.


That's right, Ian. Dai still rely's a lot on Kia, so we're in safe hands...



Kia was at our last home game fwiw. Still involved in some capicity.

As little involvement as possible means less influence from Kia as its Dai's relationship with him and acting on his advice that's the problem with him.

Leave it all with Bowen, Carey and co.


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Re: Potential New Owners

by Lower West » 08 Jun 2023 00:13

YorkshireRoyal99 Yeah I don't see why it's a big deal that we don't hear directly from the owner. He employees people like Bowen to do the talking for him, he will set out the strategy to Bowen and co and then they will address the relevant information to those who need to know.


Because there's much going on which involves the owner. Question marks therefore exist as to how this will impact the club. Dai is a dodgy shady character once you dig around a little. People don't become (ex) billionaires in a one party communist state without either friends in high places and/or the use of undue influence. All the signs are that the management in the UK have minimal contact with the owner.

Time is drifting away. For a football club preparing for next season. Not a good omen. Ince was sacked 55 days ago. A clear sign now that there a bust up and not a planned exit. Dai's history suggests football clubs aren't his area of expertise when it comes to a cohesive strategy.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by Snowflake Royal » 08 Jun 2023 08:10

Of course it wasn’t a planned exit. Anyone could have told you that any time since the day Ince left.

Ince may have left 55 days ago, but we only knew what division we'd be in about 35 days ago, and the season ended a little less than that.

A month is not a long time to spend looking for a manager in the close season.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 08 Jun 2023 08:35

Exactly, it's not a huge deal that we have appointed someone in the close season, just because others have. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of waiting around and dragging our heels through the process, but it would have made so little difference if we appointed Wilder last Tuesday to what it would do today or tomorrow.

Football clubs might not be his area of expertise, but again this is why he employees people like Bowen who essentially come and run the football club whilst he provides the finance. A lot of football club owners do not know much about football, but can still have successful teams because it's the people on the football side who know what they are doing.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by Snowflake Royal » 08 Jun 2023 17:49

We do know Dai intervenes a lot though.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by Royal_jimmy » 08 Jun 2023 21:41

Yeah he's clearly a micro-manager. Stepped in to block the sales of Swift and Moore who we could have got £11m for the pair for instance.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 09 Jun 2023 08:35

Royal_jimmy Yeah he's clearly a micro-manager. Stepped in to block the sales of Swift and Moore who we could have got £11m for the pair for instance.


And in hindsight that would have been good. But at the time they were 2 of our best players and we were trying to get up as quickly as possible.

Obviously the responsibility falls on him for where we've ended up but if you were looking to gain promotion then you'd want to keep your better players.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by WestYorksRoyal » 09 Jun 2023 10:13

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Royal_jimmy Yeah he's clearly a micro-manager. Stepped in to block the sales of Swift and Moore who we could have got £11m for the pair for instance.


And in hindsight that would have been good. But at the time they were 2 of our best players and we were trying to get up as quickly as possible.

Obviously the responsibility falls on him for where we've ended up but if you were looking to gain promotion then you'd want to keep your better players.

What were the figures quoted for Swift? We'd have definitely gone down a year earlier without him, possibly still under an embargo. So keeping him was easily worth £5m - £10m for us, which is probably more than any fee on offer.

Granted the Moore decision was a disaster, and you're also forgetting Loader too.

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