Would you take Vydra permanently?

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Would you take Vydra permanently?

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Re: Would you take Vydra permanently?

by Sutekh » 01 Mar 2016 13:00

More importantly how do we adapt our new Piazon-John song for use next season.

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Re: Would you take Vydra permanently?

by Tony Le Mesmer » 01 Mar 2016 13:32

The owners aren't interested in spending big money on players like this. Why waste millions on a quality striker when you can spend it on a new ice rink and a convention centre?

We wont sign him. Just more short term signings to keep the playing side ticking over until profits elsewhere can be realised. You can pretend otherwise, but that's the sole reason for RFC's existence in 2016.

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Re: Would you take Vydra permanently?

by Ian Royal » 01 Mar 2016 13:47

Tony Le Mesmer The owners aren't interested in spending big money on players like this. Why waste millions on a quality striker when you can spend it on a new ice rink and a convention centre?

We wont sign him. Just more short term signings to keep the playing side ticking over until profits elsewhere can be realised. You can pretend otherwise, but that's the sole reason for RFC's existence in 2016.

You are aware they forked out £1m for Sa and over £2m to loan Vydra right? And in their first season they bankrolled a wage bill of over £30m in the Championship?

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Re: Would you take Vydra permanently?

by SCIAG » 01 Mar 2016 14:03

Depends on the fee, for me.

Maybe Hammond can convince them to put the £2.5m loan fee towards a £6m transfer and we get him for £3.5m. That would probably constitute good business.

For £10m? No way.

Think Kermogant will be on the way out next season and Deniss will mostly be on the wing, giving us a strike force off Vydra, Liburd, Samuel, and Kermogant with Rakels, Barrett and Novakovich as back up.

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Re: Would you take Vydra permanently?

by BR2 » 01 Mar 2016 14:04

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Tony Le Mesmer The owners aren't interested in spending big money on players like this. Why waste millions on a quality striker when you can spend it on a new ice rink and a convention centre?

We wont sign him. Just more short term signings to keep the playing side ticking over until profits elsewhere can be realised. You can pretend otherwise, but that's the sole reason for RFC's existence in 2016.

You are aware they forked out £1m for Sa and over £2m to loan Vydra right? And in their first season they bankrolled a wage bill of over £30m in the Championship?


They also sold Hector for £4 or £5 million.
As for Vydra-am not sure.
I liked the player when he was at Watford first time around but the fact that they were prepared to loan him out twice, that he did nothing at West Brom and for us has generally been a 6/10 player all mean IMHO he is not worth more than £2million let alone the £10 million that supposedly was his agreed fee if we took up the option to buy.

I think we have too many players that are o.k. in patches but you always feel could do more (I don't mean just running around for 90 minutes but contributing more regularly), e.g. Gunter, Obita, Kanu, McCleary, John, Vydra.


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Re: Would you take Vydra permanently?

by tidus_mi2 » 01 Mar 2016 14:07

I've voted no as I think he will be too expensive even though I'd love for us to keep him.

For less than £5m it's a big yes from me.

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Re: Would you take Vydra permanently?

by Snowball136 » 01 Mar 2016 14:09

His lack of League goals for RFC is a cunning plan
to reduce his asking price.

We get him for £47 and then he scores 47 goals next season (38 in the cups)

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Re: Would you take Vydra permanently?

by CountryRoyal » 01 Mar 2016 14:19

Yes 100%.

0% chance of it happening though.

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Re: Would you take Vydra permanently?

by Snowball136 » 01 Mar 2016 14:24

Snowball136 His lack of League goals for RFC is a cunning plan
to reduce his asking price.

We get him for £47 and then he scores 47 goals next season (38 in the cups)



Quoting myself

Joking apart, if managers look at his league-scoring record this season, how much would they be prepared to spend?

Had he got 20 goals for us we'd need ten million to compete, but TWO?

If he is sold in the summer, what's the best-guess price? I'll say 5-6 Million


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Re: Would you take Vydra permanently?

by Ian Royal » 01 Mar 2016 14:27

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Tony Le Mesmer The owners aren't interested in spending big money on players like this. Why waste millions on a quality striker when you can spend it on a new ice rink and a convention centre?

We wont sign him. Just more short term signings to keep the playing side ticking over until profits elsewhere can be realised. You can pretend otherwise, but that's the sole reason for RFC's existence in 2016.

You are aware they forked out £1m for Sa and over £2m to loan Vydra right? And in their first season they bankrolled a wage bill of over £30m in the Championship?


They also sold Hector for £4 or £5 million.
As for Vydra-am not sure.
I liked the player when he was at Watford first time around but the fact that they were prepared to loan him out twice, that he did nothing at West Brom and for us has generally been a 6/10 player all mean IMHO he is not worth more than £2million let alone the £10 million that supposedly was his agreed fee if we took up the option to buy.

I think we have too many players that are o.k. in patches but you always feel could do more (I don't mean just running around for 90 minutes but contributing more regularly), e.g. Gunter, Obita, Kanu, McCleary, John, Vydra.

Nothing prevents them for selling, say Williams, for £3m and spending big on a player. Or spending big on a player anyway (Sa was well before we sold Hector) and none of that addresses the wage bill.

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Re: Would you take Vydra permanently?

by CountryRoyal » 01 Mar 2016 14:34

Snowball136
Snowball136 His lack of League goals for RFC is a cunning plan
to reduce his asking price.

We get him for £47 and then he scores 47 goals next season (38 in the cups)



Quoting myself

Joking apart, if managers look at his league-scoring record this season, how much would they be prepared to spend?

Had he got 20 goals for us we'd need ten million to compete, but TWO?

If he is sold in the summer, what's the best-guess price? I'll say 5-6 Million


No way, 3-4.

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Re: Would you take Vydra permanently?

by Woodcote Royal » 01 Mar 2016 14:54

paultheroyal
Woodcote Royal Was a decent but expensive punt at the start of the season but, very sadly, his lack of goals is one of the major seasons we will not be in a position to take up our option to buy.

Frankly, even though a class act will probably emerge from this grossly under performing player, he's not worth a million in his current form and even that would be too bigger risk for us as we enter our last season of parachute payments.

I'd much prefer a punt on Adam Le Fondre, currently out on loan at Wolves and collecting splinters on their bench.

Alfie will still remember where the goal is when he's 50 :|


Le Fondre who appears to continually fail to hold down a first team place in any club he has been at in the championship.

Vydra - yes please. Class act.


This would be "Class act" Vydra with how many goals to justify starting in this season's Championship?

On this basis, every striker on our books must be a "Class act" :|

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Re: Would you take Vydra permanently?

by CountryRoyal » 01 Mar 2016 14:59

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Woodcote Royal Was a decent but expensive punt at the start of the season but, very sadly, his lack of goals is one of the major seasons we will not be in a position to take up our option to buy.

Frankly, even though a class act will probably emerge from this grossly under performing player, he's not worth a million in his current form and even that would be too bigger risk for us as we enter our last season of parachute payments.

I'd much prefer a punt on Adam Le Fondre, currently out on loan at Wolves and collecting splinters on their bench.

Alfie will still remember where the goal is when he's 50 :|


Le Fondre who appears to continually fail to hold down a first team place in any club he has been at in the championship.

Vydra - yes please. Class act.


This would be "Class act" Vydra with how many goals to justify starting in this season's Championship?

On this basis, every striker on our books must be a "Class act" :|


What's the expression, form is temporary class is permanent?

He's proven in the past he's the real deal at this level, and his all round play for us has been good, unfortunately it's just the bit which counts where it hasn't worked out for him and us this season.


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Re: Would you take Vydra permanently?

by SCIAG » 01 Mar 2016 15:00

Woodcote Royal This would be "Class act" Vydra with how many goals to justify starting in this season's Championship?

About 46. 38 for Watford, 8 for us.

A striker who scored 16 goals last season, 22 a few years before, and already has 8 this season is a justified starter.

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Re: Would you take Vydra permanently?

by genome » 01 Mar 2016 15:10

I'm not sure you can use the phrase "already this season" in March

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Re: Would you take Vydra permanently?

by Woodcote Royal » 01 Mar 2016 15:56

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Woodcote Royal This would be "Class act" Vydra with how many goals to justify starting in this season's Championship?

About 46. 38 for Watford, 8 for us.

A striker who scored 16 goals last season, 22 a few years before, and already has 8 this season is a justified starter.


So, 2 goals in this season's Championship makes him a justified starter :lol:

And how many Premiership goals did Le Fondre score in our relegation season?

Just how "permanent" can class be in a 23 year old player?

I like the guy and I'm sure he will come good at some stage but spending millions on him when what this talented squad so desperately needs is someone who can convert their undoubted creativity into goals would, frankly, be madness.

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Re: Would you take Vydra permanently?

by Top Flight » 01 Mar 2016 16:27

I would love Vydra to stay but Watford will have to get real on his valuation.

With all the new TV money that Watford will be receiving next season they won't be under any financial pressure to sell him so may hold out for a valuation that no one will be willing to meet.

I hope we can persuade Ola John to stay with us next season. He will surely be a first team regular next season. The only thing in his way is his own fitness.

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Re: Would you take Vydra permanently?

by genome » 01 Mar 2016 16:32

He needs to work on his first touch too. Otherwise, I'm with you. An in-form John / McCleary on the wings would be a formidable asset.

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Re: Would you take Vydra permanently?

by paultheroyal » 01 Mar 2016 16:55

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Woodcote Royal Was a decent but expensive punt at the start of the season but, very sadly, his lack of goals is one of the major seasons we will not be in a position to take up our option to buy.

Frankly, even though a class act will probably emerge from this grossly under performing player, he's not worth a million in his current form and even that would be too bigger risk for us as we enter our last season of parachute payments.

I'd much prefer a punt on Adam Le Fondre, currently out on loan at Wolves and collecting splinters on their bench.

Alfie will still remember where the goal is when he's 50 :|


Le Fondre who appears to continually fail to hold down a first team place in any club he has been at in the championship.

Vydra - yes please. Class act.


This would be "Class act" Vydra with how many goals to justify starting in this season's Championship?

On this basis, every striker on our books must be a "Class act" :|


Hazard has scored how many goals this season for Chelsea? Class act?

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Re: Would you take Vydra permanently?

by Forbury Lion » 01 Mar 2016 17:06

Sutekh More importantly how do we adapt our new Piazon-John song for use next season.

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