The Non - League thread

[Tony Le Mesmer]

I think Bracknell is another example of the positive things that can happen to a club when money is invested in the right way.

Seems they are getting gates of around 250 every time I look, which in turn means they can pay the most wages in the division.

I have paid one visit there recently, and it does look as if they would have no chance of upping the ground grading at Larges Lane, should it ever be required. Simply not enough room.

[John Smith]

Are we all off to Maidenhead this weekend given that the Royals aren't playing till Monday night?

[Linden Jones]

I think Bracknell is another example of the positive things that can happen to a club when money is invested in the right way.

Seems they are getting gates of around 250 every time I look, which in turn means they can pay the most wages in the division.

I have paid one visit there recently, and it does look as if they would have no chance of upping the ground grading at Larges Lane, should it ever be required. Simply not enough room.

Long term Bracknell fan I know has mixed feelings about their increased spending over the last 18 months. Also says although they have great facilities off the pitch, capacity has been compromised. They need 3k for Southern Leagu above

[Royal Rother]

Sorry, the end (above) is a bit unclear - when will they need 3,000? And why?

[Four Of Clubs]

...rushed as always sorry! .... here's what's still on so far - plenty of frizzed pitches about this AM that may not thaw - keep an eye on those INSPECTIONS .....

Sat 9th December

INSP = Inspection

NAT
Aldershot Town v FC Halifax Town
Maidenhead United v Maidstone United
NATN
Brackley Town v Stockport County
NATS
Bath City v Bognor Regis Town
Braintree Town v Eastbourne Borough
Concord Rangers v Wealdstone
Gloucester City v Chelmsford City
Hampton & Richmond Borough v East Thurrock United
Havant & Waterlooville v Chippenham Town
Hungerford Town v Dartford - passed INSP
Poole Town v Weston-super-Mare
St Albans City v Oxford City
Welling United v Truro City
Whitehawk v Hemel Hempstead Town

ILP
Dorking Wanderers v Tooting & Mitcham United INSP
Staines Town v Billericay Town

SLP
Banbury United v Royston Town
Chesham United v St Ives Town
Farnborough v King's Lynn Town - boro lost 1-2 at Cherrywood to bottom club Gosport on Wed eve
Hereford v Basingstoke Town
Slough Town v Bishop's Stortford
SL1E
Arlesey Town v Egham Town
Ashford Town (Middx) v Beaconsfield Town
Aylesbury v AFC Rushden & Diamonds
Cambridge City v Uxbridge
Hartley Wintney v Moneyfields
Hayes & Yeading United v Chalfont St Peter
Marlow PP Aylesbury United
Thame United v Fleet Town
SL1W
Mangotsfield United v Didcot Town
North Leigh PP Yate Town
Taunton Town v Salisbury 4th visit 1st
Wimborne Town v Kidlington

CCLP
Balham Farnham Town INSP @ CWU
Banstead Athletic Hanworth Villa
Camberley Town Horley Town
Chertsey Town Walton & Hersham INSP
Godalming Town PP Spelthorne Sports
Guildford City Colliers Wood United
Knaphill AFC Hayes INSP
North Greenford United Bedfont Sports
Redhill Abbey Rangers
Sutton Common Rovers CB Hounslow United
Westfield Epsom & Ewell
CCL1
14:00 Farleigh Rovers Raynes Park Vale
14:00 Sheerwater Ash United
AC London Bedfont & Feltham
Bagshot Chessington & Hook United
Eversley & California Cobham
Kensington Borough Fleet Spurs
South Park Reserves PP Cove
CCLP Cup 13:30 Worcester Park FC Deportivo Galicia

HELLP
Ascot United v Fairford Town - ‘Yellamen’ will hope to find the unexpected spike in form that resulted in their big win last Sat
Brackley Town Saints v Wantage Town
Brimscombe & Thrupp v Binfield
Burnham v Tuffley Rovers
Highmoor Ibis v Highworth Town – bottom vs top - INSP
Longlevens v Bracknell Town
Royal Wootton Bassett Town v Woodley United
Windsor v Thatcham Town - interested to see if Windsor can recover from their mauling @ Larges earlier this week, in time to take on one of the other big-hitters in the top five – ‘Kingfishers’ were mightily impressive on Tuesday themselves, handing out a serious beating to rivals Flackwell on their own turf.
HELL1E
14:00 Chalfont Wasps v Virginia Water
14:00 Wokingham & Emmbrook v Thame Rangers
Bicester Town v Wallingford Town AFC
Henley Town v Penn & Tylers Green – Cancelled – Henley withdrawn from league record expunged
Holyport v Milton United
Sandhurst Town v Didcot Town Reserves
HELL1W
New College Swindon v Letcombe

WESSP
Bemerton Heath Harlequins v Andover Town
Brockenhurst v Alresford Town
Lymington Town v Petersfield Town
WESS1
Andover New Street PP Tadley Calleva
Hythe & Dibden v Alton
Totton & Eling v Whitchurch United

[double d]

...rushed as always sorry! .... here's what's still on so far - plenty of frizzed pitches about this AM that may not thaw - keep an eye on those INSPECTIONS .....

Sat 9th December

INSP = Inspection

NAT
Aldershot Town v FC Halifax Town
Maidenhead United v Maidstone United
NATN
Brackley Town v Stockport County
NATS
Bath City v Bognor Regis Town
Braintree Town v Eastbourne Borough
Concord Rangers v Wealdstone
Gloucester City v Chelmsford City
Hampton & Richmond Borough v East Thurrock United
Havant & Waterlooville v Chippenham Town
Hungerford Town v Dartford - passed INSP
Poole Town v Weston-super-Mare
St Albans City v Oxford City
Welling United v Truro City
Whitehawk v Hemel Hempstead Town

ILP
Dorking Wanderers v Tooting & Mitcham United INSP
Staines Town v Billericay Town

SLP
Banbury United v Royston Town
Chesham United v St Ives Town
Farnborough v King's Lynn Town - boro lost 1-2 at Cherrywood to bottom club Gosport on Wed eve
Hereford v Basingstoke Town
Slough Town v Bishop's Stortford
SL1E
Arlesey Town v Egham Town
Ashford Town (Middx) v Beaconsfield Town
Aylesbury v AFC Rushden & Diamonds
Cambridge City v Uxbridge
Hartley Wintney v Moneyfields
Hayes & Yeading United v Chalfont St Peter
Marlow PP Aylesbury United
Thame United v Fleet Town
SL1W
Mangotsfield United v Didcot Town
North Leigh PP Yate Town
Taunton Town v Salisbury 4th visit 1st
Wimborne Town v Kidlington

CCLP
Balham Farnham Town INSP @ CWU
Banstead Athletic Hanworth Villa
Camberley Town Horley Town
Chertsey Town Walton & Hersham INSP
Godalming Town PP Spelthorne Sports
Guildford City Colliers Wood United
Knaphill AFC Hayes INSP
North Greenford United Bedfont Sports
Redhill Abbey Rangers
Sutton Common Rovers CB Hounslow United
Westfield Epsom & Ewell
CCL1
14:00 Farleigh Rovers Raynes Park Vale
14:00 Sheerwater Ash United
AC London Bedfont & Feltham
Bagshot Chessington & Hook United
Eversley & California Cobham
Kensington Borough Fleet Spurs
South Park Reserves PP Cove
CCLP Cup 13:30 Worcester Park FC Deportivo Galicia

HELLP
Ascot United v Fairford Town - ‘Yellamen’ will hope to find the unexpected spike in form that resulted in their big win last Sat
Brackley Town Saints v Wantage Town
Brimscombe & Thrupp v Binfield
Burnham v Tuffley Rovers
Highmoor Ibis v Highworth Town – bottom vs top - INSP
Longlevens v Bracknell Town
Royal Wootton Bassett Town v Woodley United
Windsor v Thatcham Town - interested to see if Windsor can recover from their mauling @ Larges earlier this week, in time to take on one of the other big-hitters in the top five – ‘Kingfishers’ were mightily impressive on Tuesday themselves, handing out a serious beating to rivals Flackwell on their own turf.
HELL1E
14:00 Chalfont Wasps v Virginia Water
14:00 Wokingham & Emmbrook v Thame Rangers
Bicester Town v Wallingford Town AFC
Henley Town v Penn & Tylers Green – Cancelled – Henley withdrawn from league record expunged
Holyport v Milton United
Sandhurst Town v Didcot Town Reserves
HELL1W
New College Swindon v Letcombe

WESSP
Bemerton Heath Harlequins v Andover Town
Brockenhurst v Alresford Town
Lymington Town v Petersfield Town
WESS1
Andover New Street PP Tadley Calleva
Hythe & Dibden v Alton
Totton & Eling v Whitchurch United

Wasnt there a controversial thing that happened a few years ago where a team got expunged at the end of the season, which made one team who beat them twice lose 6 points and drop from 2nd to 4th to lose out on automatic promotion? Iirc there were loads of appeals so nobody knew who went up ages after the season ended

[peterroyal76]

Burnham 0 Tuffley 2.

Close game settled by a first half o.g and a second half pen. A bit debatable apparently but I couldn’t see from where I was stood. Burnham reduced to 10 men for a silly challenge bringing a 2nd booking, there was no contact but if there was it would have been a straight red.

Chris Abbott and Jock from the now defunct Henley are helping out around the club and are actively involved in bringing in new players for the rest of the season.

[Linden Jones]

Sorry, the end (above) is a bit unclear - when will they need 3,000? And why?

Sorry my post seems to have got chopped. Ground grading for Southern League One need potential to increase capacity to 2k, then 3k for Southern League Premier

http://www.thefa.com/get-involved/player/clubs-leagues/ground-grading

[Bonzodog]

Often interesting to find out what non league players are paid and how much it varies. In National South a player from Chippenham Dave Pratt is due to move to Wealdstone with a weekly wage north of £800 per week.

[Yellowcoat]

Often interesting to find out what non league players are paid and how much it varies. In National South a player from Chippenham Dave Pratt is due to move to Wealdstone with a weekly wage north of £800 per week.

All rumour so far. Wealdstone have not yet confirmed despite what Chippenham & their fans have said.

[Four Of Clubs]

...soz 'loyal readers' - poxy ACER laptop has frazzled itself - b@$tard thing won't boot - was getting on a bit - much like it's owner .....

- so will be bit of a delay on the ol' NL review front - will try and get it done as early in the week as poss. but the missus tends to try and grab this one for her spider solitaire sessions ....

[Bonzodog]

Often interesting to find out what non league players are paid and how much it varies. In National South a player from Chippenham Dave Pratt is due to move to Wealdstone with a weekly wage north of £800 per week.

All rumour so far. Wealdstone have not yet confirmed despite what Chippenham & their fans have said.

Would put it stronger than a rumour as Chippenham have confirmed he's left. The issue is the money being paid for a part time player.

[Sutekh]

Often interesting to find out what non league players are paid and how much it varies. In National South a player from Chippenham Dave Pratt is due to move to Wealdstone with a weekly wage north of £800 per week.

That's about £40k p.a.

For an NLS player?

Are Wealdstone full time then?

[Yellowcoat]

The Chippenham chairman is now saying that the social media money speculation rumours have no foundation.

[Bonzodog]

There is little doubt that the other players at Chippenham know what he is on and what Wealdstone have offered him. Wealdstone players will also know what he's been offered. There are very few secrets in the dressing rooms re players wages.

[Linden Jones]

Often interesting to find out what non league players are paid and how much it varies. In National South a player from Chippenham Dave Pratt is due to move to Wealdstone with a weekly wage north of £800 per week.

That's about £40k p.a.

For an NLS player?

Are Wealdstone full time then?

One the one hand semi pro contracts at that level tend to only be for 38 weeks (i.e. no money in close season). On the other players only tend to talk in net figures.

[Four Of Clubs]

Results from games that beat the freeze last w/e - sorry it's late will try and organise myself better for next round of matches:

NAT
Aldershot Town 0-1 FC Halifax Town
Maidenhead United 0-0 Maidstone United
NATN
FCUM 1-1 Brackley Town
NATS
Bath City 0-0 Bognor Regis Town
Braintree Town 3-2 Eastbourne Borough
Concord Rangers 3-1 Wealdstone
Gloucester City 0-2 Chelmsford City
Hampton & Richmond Borough 5-1 East Thurrock United
Havant & Waterlooville 4-0 Chippenham Town
Hungerford Town 1-0 Dartford – Crusaders shock leaders with a 1st half goal from Louis Soares
Poole Town 3-1 Weston-super-Mare
St Albans City 1-1 Oxford City
Welling United 2-2 Truro City
Whitehawk 0-5 Hemel Hempstead Town

ILP
Staines Town 0-2 Billericay Town

SLP
Banbury United 3-0 Royston Town
Farnborough 5-2 King's Lynn Town – 4 from Ciardini; one from Cureton
Hereford 4-1 Basingstoke Town – brace from Mills
Slough Town 2-4 Bishop's Stortford
SL1E
Arlesey Town 2-3 Egham Town
Ashford Town (Middx) 0-2 Beaconsfield Town
Cambridge City 5-1 Uxbridge
Hartley Wintney 5-1 Moneyfields
Hayes & Yeading United 1-2 Chalfont St Peter
Thame United 4-0 Fleet Town
SL1W
Mangotsfield United 2-0 Didcot Town
Taunton Town 4-1 Salisbury
Wimborne Town 1-0 Kidlington

CCLP
Banstead Athletic 1-3 Hanworth Villa
Camberley Town 1-1 Horley Town
Chertsey Town 1-2 Walton & Hersham
Guildford City 3-3 Colliers Wood United
Knaphill AFC 0-2 Hayes
North Greenford United 2-3 Bedfont Sports
Redhill 1-3 Abbey Rangers
Sutton Common Rovers 2-1 CB Hounslow United
Westfield 5-0 Epsom & Ewell
CCL1
AC London 3-1 Bedfont & Feltham
Bagshot 4-2 Chessington & Hook United
Eversley & California 1-3 Cobham
Kensington Borough 4-2 Fleet Spurs
Sheerwater 1-0 Ash United
CCLP Cup
Worcester Park 6-1 FC Deportivo Galicia

HELLP
Ascot United 4-2 Fairford Town
Brackley Town Saints 1-3 Wantage Town
Brimscombe & Thrupp 1-2 Binfield
Burnham 0-2 Tuffley Rovers
Highmoor Ibis 1-3 Highworth Town
Longlevens 0-3 Bracknell Town
Royal Wootton Bassett Town 2-1 Woodley United
Windsor 1-3 Thatcham Town – goals: 1 for Cooper-Clark , Hayles levelled then 2 for Ferdinand: Red Card for hosts Ashley Smith
HELL1E
Chalfont Wasps 1-2 Virginia Water
Sandhurst Town 4-1 Didcot Town Reserves
Wokingham & Emmbrook {EIGHT} 8-0 Thame Rangers
HELL1W
New College Swindon 2-9 {NINE} Letcombe

WESSP
Bemerton Heath Harlequins 1-3 Andover Town
Brockenhurst 0-1 Alresford Town
Lymington Town {EIGHT} 8-1 Petersfield Town
WESS1
Hythe & Dibden 0-2 Alton
Totton & Eling 4-0 Whitchurch United
- got to this - originally heading for RWBT but had forgotten/missed news re closures jn 12-13 ... so turned round and headed back east then south down M3 and a short nip along the M27. 'Jam Boys' are in a terrible state on the field but some comfort I suppose was the significant portion of a surprisingly large crowd of over 100 were visiting Whitchurch fans.

[Four Of Clubs]

... still pressed for time as usual - here's the preview as it stands - again plenty of inspections ongoing - I've removed known postponements

Fixtures Sat 16th Dec

15 Haringey Borough v Leyton Orient all ticket
16 Dover Athletic v Eastbourne Borough
17 Wealdstone v Wingate & Finchley
18 Billericay Town v Havant & Waterlooville
20 Sutton United v Truro City
21 Woking v Maidenhead United
22 Whitehawk v St. Albans City
23 East Thurrock United v Aldershot Town
24 Hendon v Bath City
25 Ebbsfleet United v Eastleigh
26 Hereford v Dagenham & Redbridge
27 Torquay United v Maidstone United
28 Hartley Wintney v Bromley
29 Braintree Town v Brackley Town
30 Taunton Town v Bognor Regis Town
31 Hampton & Richmond Borough v Heybridge Swifts
32 Dartford v Boreham Wood

NATS
Hemel Hempstead Town v Chelmsford City

ILP
Brightlingsea Regent v Staines Town

SLP
Banbury United v Weymouth
Dunstable Town v Basingstoke Town
Farnborough v Frome Town
SL1E
Arlesey Town v Ashford Town (Middx)
Cambridge City v Aylesbury
Chalfont St Peter v Fleet Town
Egham Town v Hanwell Town
Hayes & Yeading United v Marlow
SL1W
Wimborne Town v Didcot Town

CCLP
Bedfont Sports v Sutton Common Rovers
Epsom & Ewell v Abbey Rangers
Farnham Town v Hanworth Villa
Guildford City v Redhill
Horley Town v Knaphill
Spelthorne Sports v Balham
Walton & Hersham v Camberley Town
CCL1
Ash United v Bagshot
Badshot Lea v FC Deportivo Galicia
Bedfont & Feltham v Sheerwater
Cobham v Worcester Park
Eversley & California v Cove
Fleet Spurs v Staines Lammas
Raynes Park Vale v AC London

HELLP
Ascot United vRoyal Wootton Bassett Town
Highworth Town v Binfield
Tuffley Rovers v Thatcham Town
Wantage Town v Windsor
HELL1E
AFC Aldermaston v Bicester Town
Chinnor v Virginia Water
Didcot Town Reserves Wokingham & Emmbrook
Sandhurst Town v Chalfont Wasps
Thame Rangers v Milton United
HELL Chall Cup
Lydney Town v Abingdon United

WESSP
Petersfield Town v Hamworthy United
Portland United v Alresford Town
WESS1
Alton v Andover New Street
Tadley Calleva v Christchurch
Whitchurch United v Hythe & Dibden

[Four Of Clubs]

... and here's the scores from today's games:

Saturday 16th Dec

15 Haringey Borough 1-2 Leyton Orient
16 Dover Athletic 3-0 Eastbourne Borough
17 Wealdstone 1-0 Wingate & Finchley
18 Billericay Town 3-1 Havant & Waterlooville
20 Sutton United 1-0 Truro City
21 Woking 0-2 Maidenhead United
22 Whitehawk 1-2 St. Albans City
23 East Thurrock United 4-0 Aldershot Town
24 Hendon 2-1 Bath City
25 Ebbsfleet United 2-1 Eastleigh
26 (SUN) Hereford v Dagenham & Redbridge
27 Torquay United v Maidstone United
28 Hartley Wintney 0-2 Bromley
29 Braintree Town 0-0 Brackley Town
30 Taunton Town 1-4 Bognor Regis Town
31 Hampton & Richmond Borough 1-1 Heybridge Swifts
32 Dartford 1-1 Boreham Wood
- Trawled up near the top end of the M40 and beyond Coventry to Nuneaton Town (formerly known as Borough) – reformed/re-branded in 2008; still rather confusingly displaying ‘Boro’ on the front of the programme. Chants suggest the fans still have a preference for the former guise too.
- Barrow from the level above, albeit near the bottom, were bigger and uglier at the mucky bits of the game and finally grabbed a slightly undeserved winner on about 91’ to progress to Round Two (last 32). Saved a 0-0 for us and a replay and a 400 mile round trip for others - I s’pose.
- Tidy enough ground for STEP02 – large pitch-side bar and club-shop – crowd officially only 415 - approx 200 under their average

ILP
Brightlingsea Regent 2-2 Staines Town

SLP
Banbury United 1-2 Weymouth
Dunstable Town 0-6 {SIX} Basingstoke Town - Sam Argent grabbed five
Farnborough 5-3 Frome Town - incl. two for Cureton one for Coles
SL1E
Arlesey Town 1-3 Ashford Town (Middx)
Cambridge City 0-1 Aylesbury
Chalfont St Peter PP Fleet Town
Egham Town 1-0 Hanwell Town
Hayes & Yeading United 3-0 Marlow
SL1W
Wimborne Town 0-1 Didcot Town - only goal from Adam Learoyd on 9'

CCLP
Bedfont Sports 3-2 Sutton Common Rovers
Epsom & Ewell PP Abbey Rangers
Farnham Town 1-2 Hanworth Villa
Guildford City 1-2 Redhill
Horley Town 1-1 Knaphill
Spelthorne Sports 1-0 Balham
Walton & Hersham 0-0 Camberley Town
CCL1
Ash United 3-1 Bagshot
Badshot Lea 5-1 FC Deportivo Galicia
Bedfont & Feltham 2-2 Sheerwater
Cobham 0-1 Worcester Park
Eversley & California 3-0 Cove
Fleet Spurs 1-4 Staines Lammas
Raynes Park Vale 2-1 AC London

HELLP
Ascot United 0-1 Royal Wootton Bassett Town
Highworth Town 1-1 Binfield - tidy result for Moles who help the chasers at the top of the league by holding the leaders at The Elms – gap is still 8 points back to Thatcham
Tuffley Rovers 0-7 {SEVEN} Thatcham Town - goals from Cook (3) Grant (2) Rapley & Ferdinand
Wantage Town 0-0 Windsor
HELL1E
AFC Aldermaston 0-1 Bicester Town
Chinnor 0-2 Virginia Water
Didcot Town Reserves 1-4 Wokingham & Emmbrook
Sandhurst Town 5-1 Chalfont Wasps
Thame Rangers 5-2 Milton United
HELLENIC Bluefin Challenge Cup
Lydney Town 0-2 Abingdon United

WESSP
Petersfield Town 0-3 Hamworthy United
Portland United 1-1 Alresford Town
WESS1
Alton 2-1 Andover New Street - ANS slip back to 4th
Tadley Calleva 0-0 Christchurch - 2nd and 1st draw a blank
Whitchurch United 3-1 Hythe & Dibden - welcome win for the struggling 'JamBoys'

[tmesis]

Went to Dunstable v Basingstoke. Quite an odd game. Basingstoke won 6-0 but it wasn't really a one-sided game. Dunstable just played a high back line that got caught out time and time again. Basingstoke could easily have had 10, thanks to defending that was on par with a set of traffic cones, but not quite as mobile.