by Hound » 14 Dec 2018 14:37
by Lower West » 14 Dec 2018 15:14
Old Man AndrewsHoundURZZZZ
Cardiff game started the rot FYI, in the 82nd minute we were comfortably 2-0 up and we threw the game away before winning three more times the whole season. Burton at home was supposed to be a memorable event with the club promoting £5 tickets for the 500th game, it was Stam's chance to win back supporters and we spent the game passing between the back four and we lost. Stam still then made his usual dig after the game slating the supporters
So yes, Stam should have gone after Burton
Yep. Think that was the general feel, that he really lost any support after that awful game. Not just the result, but the pitiful performance and attitude of both the players and Stam himself.
If not that game, would have sacked him after Brum a few weeks later
Did you notice that not really a lot came out about the Stam era post him leaving? I would be interested to know how he was on a day to day basis, how did he deal with discipline issues, how hands on he was etc. There wasn't really anything that I can remember coming out from the players or ex-players/staff about him.
by muirinho » 14 Dec 2018 15:38
Lower WestOld Man AndrewsHound
Yep. Think that was the general feel, that he really lost any support after that awful game. Not just the result, but the pitiful performance and attitude of both the players and Stam himself.
If not that game, would have sacked him after Brum a few weeks later
Did you notice that not really a lot came out about the Stam era post him leaving? I would be interested to know how he was on a day to day basis, how did he deal with discipline issues, how hands on he was etc. There wasn't really anything that I can remember coming out from the players or ex-players/staff about him.
Probably not a lot to say. Simply out of his depth against more experienced Championship managers. Less technical ability and more athleticism would have improved the team considerably.
by Denver Royal » 14 Dec 2018 15:44
Old Man Andrews Did you notice that not really a lot came out about the Stam era post him leaving? I would be interested to know how he was on a day to day basis, how did he deal with discipline issues, how hands on he was etc. There wasn't really anything that I can remember coming out from the players or ex-players/staff about him.
by BarryWhiteRFC » 14 Dec 2018 16:03
by Snowflake Royal » 14 Dec 2018 17:01
Denver RoyalSnowflake Royal If I was Parky I’d want some assurance I'm not just getting sacked in four months if we're still in the relegation zone / get relegated though.
He might want that (who wouldn’t?), but tbh not sure Parky’s achievements in footy management thus far are enough to leverage that. Would he command that at most other Champ clubs? Its not as if he’d be leaving utopia at Bolton anyway.
It’s a results business they are in, and they all know it. Have to think we (or any club) would want to reserve the right to want to get rid if things went tits up, didn’t win another game, etc, and quite frankly so would I.
by Denver Royal » 14 Dec 2018 17:58
Snowflake RoyalDenver RoyalSnowflake Royal If I was Parky I’d want some assurance I'm not just getting sacked in four months if we're still in the relegation zone / get relegated though.
He might want that (who wouldn’t?), but tbh not sure Parky’s achievements in footy management thus far are enough to leverage that. Would he command that at most other Champ clubs? Its not as if he’d be leaving utopia at Bolton anyway.
It’s a results business they are in, and they all know it. Have to think we (or any club) would want to reserve the right to want to get rid if things went tits up, didn’t win another game, etc, and quite frankly so would I.
I think people need to recognise how bad we are and stop expecting quick fixes.
Of course if things got a lot worse you'd want the option. I'm simply talking about not getting sacked for failing to fix the failings of years in three months with piss all to work with.
And of course, Parky's credentials for getting promoted from League One are good.
by genome » 14 Dec 2018 18:34
by Zip » 14 Dec 2018 19:29
genome Courtney Friday has deleted his Twitter account...
genome Courtney Friday has deleted his Twitter account...
by URZZZZ » 14 Dec 2018 19:59
Old Man Andrewsgenome Courtney Friday has deleted his Twitter account...
Chronicle probably made him after yesterday. It was embarrassing.
URZZZZOld Man Andrewsgenome Courtney Friday has deleted his Twitter account...
Chronicle probably made him after yesterday. It was embarrassing.
What's embarrassing is grown men calling him out when he's doing his best with very little resources. He's no Charles Watts, but the people who directly reply to him calling him out are sad, lonely people. If you don't like what he writes, ignore it, instead of trying to slate him at every given opportunity (this isn't aimed at you)
by Hendo » 14 Dec 2018 20:42
Old Man AndrewsURZZZZOld Man Andrews Chronicle probably made him after yesterday. It was embarrassing.
What's embarrassing is grown men calling him out when he's doing his best with very little resources. He's no Charles Watts, but the people who directly reply to him calling him out are sad, lonely people. If you don't like what he writes, ignore it, instead of trying to slate him at every given opportunity (this isn't aimed at you)
He doesn't work for the Chronicle, he's not a journalist......
by Zip » 14 Dec 2018 20:44
URZZZZOld Man Andrewsgenome Courtney Friday has deleted his Twitter account...
Chronicle probably made him after yesterday. It was embarrassing.
What's embarrassing is grown men calling him out when he's doing his best with very little resources. He's no Charles Watts, but the people who directly reply to him calling him out are sad, lonely people. If you don't like what he writes, ignore it, instead of trying to slate him at every given opportunity (this isn't aimed at you)
HendoOld Man AndrewsURZZZZ
What's embarrassing is grown men calling him out when he's doing his best with very little resources. He's no Charles Watts, but the people who directly reply to him calling him out are sad, lonely people. If you don't like what he writes, ignore it, instead of trying to slate him at every given opportunity (this isn't aimed at you)
He doesn't work for the Chronicle, he's not a journalist......
Freelance journalist still means you’re a journalist.
by alfie9 » 14 Dec 2018 20:51
by DelBoyRodders » 14 Dec 2018 21:36
by genome » 14 Dec 2018 22:03
genome I can only thank the lengthy manager search for gifting me a 46 pager.
by Lower West » 14 Dec 2018 22:09
Denver RoyalSnowflake RoyalDenver Royal He might want that (who wouldn’t?), but tbh not sure Parky’s achievements in footy management thus far are enough to leverage that. Would he command that at most other Champ clubs? Its not as if he’d be leaving utopia at Bolton anyway.
It’s a results business they are in, and they all know it. Have to think we (or any club) would want to reserve the right to want to get rid if things went tits up, didn’t win another game, etc, and quite frankly so would I.
I think people need to recognise how bad we are and stop expecting quick fixes.
Of course if things got a lot worse you'd want the option. I'm simply talking about not getting sacked for failing to fix the failings of years in three months with piss all to work with.
And of course, Parky's credentials for getting promoted from League One are good.
Yeah, well obviously I'm not sure what the current/future hierarchy at Reading will expect, and in what time frame, nor what budget Parky will be afforded. I was speaking more to Parky's leverage, and his relative lack thereof (imo), and what typically happens in footy at many teams, esp these days. In the negotiations, pretty sure their expectations, which he would be tasked with, would be laid out. Then he'll either accept those and choose to take the job, or he won't.
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