by Delboy » 04 Aug 2019 06:38
by CountryRoyal » 04 Aug 2019 06:51
by gazzer, loyal royal » 04 Aug 2019 07:43
by The Enfield Royal71 » 04 Aug 2019 08:12
by Elm Park Kid » 04 Aug 2019 08:21
by Snowflake Royal » 04 Aug 2019 08:27
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I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion the keeper was shite. There is nothing Virginia could have done with the goals and he saved what he could.
Could have saved the 1st goal.
2nd goal appeared straight at him.
Looked like he was down slowly for the 3rd goal, and not his fault but he's too short to save anything heading towards the corners.
On what basis do you say he could have saved the 1st goal? Might as well throw that out at any keeper. Second goal straight at him? Might have been close to him but from close range and with great power. Only a lucky reflex save would've kept that out.
Too short to save anything heading towards corners - the biggest bollocks of the three claims you make. A) He is 6 foot 3 so by no means short. That sort of height (and indeed a lot shorter) does not prevent a good keeper diving to the extreme of their goal. Indeed, being 'shorter' can be an advantage for ground shots.
by Hound » 04 Aug 2019 08:29
by Hound » 04 Aug 2019 08:30
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Could have saved the 1st goal.
2nd goal appeared straight at him.
Looked like he was down slowly for the 3rd goal, and not his fault but he's too short to save anything heading towards the corners.
On what basis do you say he could have saved the 1st goal? Might as well throw that out at any keeper. Second goal straight at him? Might have been close to him but from close range and with great power. Only a lucky reflex save would've kept that out.
Too short to save anything heading towards corners - the biggest bollocks of the three claims you make. A) He is 6 foot 3 so by no means short. That sort of height (and indeed a lot shorter) does not prevent a good keeper diving to the extreme of their goal. Indeed, being 'shorter' can be an advantage for ground shots.
On the basis that the first goal was almost right at him and it hit his hand going in between arm and body.
Sorry, but that is a clear goalkeeping error.
by URZZZZ » 04 Aug 2019 08:30
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Sorry Jack but that’s horseshit.
Losing 3-1 to that team is not OK.
He came on when we were struggling at home against a fairly mediocre side having created very little and spent most of the game passing the ball in our own half aimlessly. He tried to change things.
That he was one of our better players (name anyone who was better / don’t say Swift he was, as always ineffectual) speaks volumes.
Sorry but you're deluded if you think Adam was better than Swift. Swift was by far our best player and that's coming from someone who doesn't really rate him (funny how Swift has had very little credit for his pass to Yiadom for the handball shot btw). Richards and Virginia aside, the other 8 starters ranged from shocking to poor
What did Swift actually do? Ok he played one ball to Yiadom. And? He didn’t affect the midfield at all, we we were overrun and we didn’t create anything from the midfield.
Adam played some actual passes to players that meant we were in an attacking position.
What did Swift actually do?
by Snowflake Royal » 04 Aug 2019 08:31
BR0B0TRoyalBlueSnowflake Royal Though he flapped at the second and I knew where the third was going several seconds before it went there, so he should have been able to get there, even to the corner.
'Flapped at the second' ? Yes, a powerful header from close range that would've left most, if not all, keepers flapping and would only have been kept out by a lucky reflex save. And someone else, criticises him and says he would've saved it had he not moved!!
As for you, Mystic Meg, knowing where the third was going several seconds before it went there........
'greed! A real rocket of a header!
...and as for mystic- megging the third Ian, I'm guessing you saw it from the televised angle, where you get to see the striker's body movement. IIRC the defender blocks this from the keeper so he can't react fast enough.
by URZZZZ » 04 Aug 2019 08:33
Hound Again just watching the highlights, so can’t judge on his overall performance - nothing JV could have done about any of the goals - not a chance. How people can blame him for the second is beyond me - Alison Becker wouldn’t have laid a finger on that
All 3 were poor defending - but some sympathy in the third as MM looked knackered and it was a very good goal. The first and second really should not happen at this level
Fair to say despite an obviously disjointed performance we were a little unlucky? The handball non penalty was a ridiculously poor match changing decision. Barrow would likely have scored on the red card situation
Still sounds like Gomes made some poor tactical decisions (tbf tactics aren’t really his best point), and this week will be impt as to who we can bring in
by Hound » 04 Aug 2019 08:35
by BR0B0T » 04 Aug 2019 08:38
Snowflake RoyalBR0B0TRoyalBlue
'Flapped at the second' ? Yes, a powerful header from close range that would've left most, if not all, keepers flapping and would only have been kept out by a lucky reflex save. And someone else, criticises him and says he would've saved it had he not moved!!
As for you, Mystic Meg, knowing where the third was going several seconds before it went there........
'greed! A real rocket of a header!
...and as for mystic- megging the third Ian, I'm guessing you saw it from the televised angle, where you get to see the striker's body movement. IIRC the defender blocks this from the keeper so he can't react fast enough.
Not at all. I saw it from the stand directly behind Virginia. And it was obvious his first touch would be to turn Miazga and then fire it into that corner.
by Hound » 04 Aug 2019 08:45
by Snowflake Royal » 04 Aug 2019 08:46
by Snowflake Royal » 04 Aug 2019 08:47
Hound Courtney seems to have dug something up suggesting we are interested in signing the Sampdoria reserve keeper interestingly
by SCIAG » 04 Aug 2019 08:49
by yuomi » 04 Aug 2019 09:05
by Snowflake Royal » 04 Aug 2019 09:06
SCIAG The benefits of being a pessimist are that you can lose 3-1 and not be disappointed.
The uncontrollable out the way first: Wednesday handled the ball on the line without the referee seeing it. Should really have been a goal if they hadn't cheated, as they did cheat then it should have been a red and a penalty. Also thought the referee let the tactical fouling go unpunished a bit too long.
In terms of structure, I don't think the 4-2-2-2 really worked. Would prefer a 4-3-3... but then, we don't have enough midfielders. Barrett had a reasonable game but we didn't offer enough of an attacking threat, we didn't get behind them very often and we didn't put dangerous balls into the box. We had "fluidity" in the sense that nobody knew where they were playing, but not in the sense of being difficult to mark or using space intelligently. Yiadom and Richards pushed very high in order to give us some width, which left us exposed a few times and contributed to the second goal. Thought Richards had a good game though. We look very reliant on Meite, nobody else was going to put the ball in the net.
Player ratings:
Virginia 5.5 - impressed by how commanding he was in the box, but could have dealt better with some of the shots. Definitely not ruling him out but he'll be disappointed by that debut.
Yiadom 5 - ineffective going forward and a defensive liability which Wednesday exploited.
Miazga 6 - one really good block
Moore 5 - probably his worst game for us, some really significant errors.
Richards 6 - not great going forward but didn't get exposed defensively, which was a real possibility given he had Barrett and Swift in front of him. One excellent tackle harshly given as a foul.
Rinomhota 6.5 - drew a lot of fouls through his good ball carrying, but misplaced a pass before the first goal.
Swift 6.5 - adapted quite well to the new role. Protected the ball very well in a couple of tight spaces and put in one very good tackle. Played some clever passes but nothing particularly significant.
Loader 4.5 - not at all comfortable on the right wing. Slowed down our counter attacks and didn't offer any attacking threat.
Barrett 6 - really good pass for the goal and tracked back quite well. Needs to offer a little bit more of a threat.
Barrow 5 - did well for the red card but otherwise didn't offer enough. Down the left please.
Meite 6.5 - took his goal well and should have had another but for the cheating. Also missed a few headed chances.
Olise 6 - clearly has vision and class. More please.
Adam 6 - could have been much worse. Some good passes although needs to calibrate a bit better.
Nova - no time
by Zip » 04 Aug 2019 09:18
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