by Snowflake Royal » 23 May 2023 15:54
by Snowflake Royal » 23 May 2023 15:55
For absoiute sure.Hendo wrote:+1, same with GunnarssonSnowflake Royal wrote:If Kerr wasn't a former player remembered fondly, he'd be the sort of appointment that would have people spontaneously combusting in outrage, especially if Kia Joorabchian's name was associated.Orion1871 wrote:
Yes, it's called a journalist looking for content because there's nothing going on at the end of season.
I find it utterly baffling anyone would suggest him.
by South Coast Royal » 23 May 2023 16:01
Is that because Karl Robinson might be available?Sutekh wrote:Apparently the delay in appointing the next manager is due to the fact that club are awaiting Leeds' relegation to be confirmed....
by One8Seven1* » 23 May 2023 16:16
As long as we're not waiting for Lampard...Sutekh wrote:Apparently the delay in appointing the next manager is due to the fact that club are awaiting Leeds' relegation to be confirmed....
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 23 May 2023 16:21
Harsh to say he failed at Birmingham personally speaking, Wednesday less so but had tough circumstances to deal with at both clubs. What would put me off Monk is that he hasn't been particularly outstanding anywhere and doesn't have much in the way of longevity in jobs. I don't think he's poor, just an average choice.Snowflake Royal wrote:Monk is a manager who failed at basket cases Wednesday and Birmingham. Why would we hire a known failure with basket cases to fix our basket case?
by Snowflake Royal » 23 May 2023 16:26
Wilder's penultimate 'failure' was actually success by our standard and who is going to count 11 games with Watford for anything.YorkshireRoyal99 wrote:Harsh to say he failed at Birmingham personally speaking, Wednesday less so but had tough circumstances to deal with at both clubs. What would put me off Monk is that he hasn't been particularly outstanding anywhere and doesn't have much in the way of longevity in jobs. I don't think he's poor, just an average choice.Snowflake Royal wrote:Monk is a manager who failed at basket cases Wednesday and Birmingham. Why would we hire a known failure with basket cases to fix our basket case?
But if we are going off what people have done and not what they could do for us, then I guess nobody would want Wilder seen as his last couple of jobs have been a failure...
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 23 May 2023 16:33
Then by rights, you'd say the same about ourselves? Considering he managed to keep Birmingham in the league from a similar-ish position with similar-ish consequences (both deducted points) and at both Birmingham and Wednesday he had a higher win rate than what Ince/Hunt had this season?Snowflake Royal wrote:Wilder's penultimate 'failure' was actually success by our standard and who is going to count 11 games with Watford for anything.YorkshireRoyal99 wrote:Harsh to say he failed at Birmingham personally speaking, Wednesday less so but had tough circumstances to deal with at both clubs. What would put me off Monk is that he hasn't been particularly outstanding anywhere and doesn't have much in the way of longevity in jobs. I don't think he's poor, just an average choice.Snowflake Royal wrote:Monk is a manager who failed at basket cases Wednesday and Birmingham. Why would we hire a known failure with basket cases to fix our basket case?
But if we are going off what people have done and not what they could do for us, then I guess nobody would want Wilder seen as his last couple of jobs have been a failure...
Monk lost more than he won over substantial periods with both his last two clubs.
Wilder has far bigger highs, far lower lows.
by Pepe the Horseman » 23 May 2023 16:34
ICYMI - another reason to stay away from Monk.YorkshireRoyal99 wrote:Harsh to say he failed at Birmingham personally speaking, Wednesday less so but had tough circumstances to deal with at both clubs. What would put me off Monk is that he hasn't been particularly outstanding anywhere and doesn't have much in the way of longevity in jobs. I don't think he's poor, just an average choice.Snowflake Royal wrote:Monk is a manager who failed at basket cases Wednesday and Birmingham. Why would we hire a known failure with basket cases to fix our basket case?
But if we are going off what people have done and not what they could do for us, then I guess nobody would want Wilder seen as his last couple of jobs have been a failure...
Garry Monk and his agent have been sent legal letters by Middlesbrough
The pair are accused of deceiving the club to the tune of millions of pounds
Boro are investigating a host of transfers completed while Monk was manager
They fear Monk's dealings were not protecting the business interests of the club
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 23 May 2023 16:36
Well yeah and that as well. Problems seem to follow him around at clubs, something we could probably do without.Pepe the Horseman wrote:ICYMI - another reason to stay away from Monk.YorkshireRoyal99 wrote:Harsh to say he failed at Birmingham personally speaking, Wednesday less so but had tough circumstances to deal with at both clubs. What would put me off Monk is that he hasn't been particularly outstanding anywhere and doesn't have much in the way of longevity in jobs. I don't think he's poor, just an average choice.Snowflake Royal wrote:Monk is a manager who failed at basket cases Wednesday and Birmingham. Why would we hire a known failure with basket cases to fix our basket case?
But if we are going off what people have done and not what they could do for us, then I guess nobody would want Wilder seen as his last couple of jobs have been a failure...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sport ... -Monk.html
Garry Monk and his agent have been sent legal letters by Middlesbrough
The pair are accused of deceiving the club to the tune of millions of pounds
Boro are investigating a host of transfers completed while Monk was manager
They fear Monk's dealings were not protecting the business interests of the club
by Snowflake Royal » 23 May 2023 16:42
YR, are spectacularly full of extrement.YorkshireRoyal99 wrote:Then by rights, you'd say the same about ourselves? Considering he managed to keep Birmingham in the league from a similar-ish position with similar-ish consequences (both deducted points) and at both Birmingham and Wednesday he had a higher win rate than what Ince/Hunt had this season?Snowflake Royal wrote:Wilder's penultimate 'failure' was actually success by our standard and who is going to count 11 games with Watford for anything.YorkshireRoyal99 wrote:
Harsh to say he failed at Birmingham personally speaking, Wednesday less so but had tough circumstances to deal with at both clubs. What would put me off Monk is that he hasn't been particularly outstanding anywhere and doesn't have much in the way of longevity in jobs. I don't think he's poor, just an average choice.
But if we are going off what people have done and not what they could do for us, then I guess nobody would want Wilder seen as his last couple of jobs have been a failure...
Monk lost more than he won over substantial periods with both his last two clubs.
Wilder has far bigger highs, far lower lows.
And when you say penultimate failure, he left a team with play off capabilities in 22nd place during the early stages of the season, so that's not really success is it?
But again, I always look to see what someone can do for us, rather than what they've done previously.
by Royal Rother » 24 May 2023 09:18
by Snowflake Royal » 24 May 2023 09:46
Pretty good success rate with Paunovic, Gomes and Ince.Royal Rother wrote:I do hope the club takes Ian's views into account, as clearly it would be folly to go with someone he doesn't rate.
by Sutekh » 24 May 2023 11:58
by Hound » 24 May 2023 12:39
by Hound » 24 May 2023 12:40
Hardly going against the grain on any of that bunch though were you?Snowflake Royal wrote:Pretty good success rate with Paunovic, Gomes and Ince.Royal Rother wrote:I do hope the club takes Ian's views into account, as clearly it would be folly to go with someone he doesn't rate.
by ReadingGlasses » 24 May 2023 13:01
I get how he might have charmed his way through an interview, but what I don't get is why he would have been interviewed in the first place. There's nothing in his record which suggested he'd be a good fit or a success.Hound wrote: The Gomes one particularly still makes me shudder. Genuine wtf were we thinking?
by Snowflake Royal » 24 May 2023 13:02
Was a hold out on Paunovic for longer than most, but otherwise no.Hound wrote:Hardly going against the grain on any of that bunch though were you?Snowflake Royal wrote:Pretty good success rate with Paunovic, Gomes and Ince.Royal Rother wrote:I do hope the club takes Ian's views into account, as clearly it would be folly to go with someone he doesn't rate.
The Gomes one particularly still makes me shudder. Genuine wtf were we thinking?
by Sutekh » 24 May 2023 14:20
More to the point who the hell is it at the club that thought it was a good idea. Can't see Mr Dai knowing much about Portuguese or American football so was it Kia or is there some numpty in the back of the club somewhere with a drawing pin and/or a random name generator?Hound wrote:Hardly going against the grain on any of that bunch though were you?Snowflake Royal wrote:Pretty good success rate with Paunovic, Gomes and Ince.Royal Rother wrote:I do hope the club takes Ian's views into account, as clearly it would be folly to go with someone he doesn't rate.
The Gomes one particularly still makes me shudder. Genuine wtf were we thinking?
by Pepe the Horseman » 24 May 2023 14:54
Didn't they claim he was recommended by Pat Dolan?Sutekh wrote:More to the point who the hell is it at the club that thought it was a good idea. Can't see Mr Dai knowing much about Portuguese or American football so was it Kia or is there some numpty in the back of the club somewhere with a drawing pin and/or a random name generator?Hound wrote:Hardly going against the grain on any of that bunch though were you?Snowflake Royal wrote: Pretty good success rate with Paunovic, Gomes and Ince.
The Gomes one particularly still makes me shudder. Genuine wtf were we thinking?
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 24 May 2023 15:34
Someone must have sold the board an absolute dream. Surely that was a Kia recommendation? Gold painted shit is still shit.ReadingGlasses wrote:I get how he might have charmed his way through an interview, but what I don't get is why he would have been interviewed in the first place. There's nothing in his record which suggested he'd be a good fit or a success.Hound wrote: The Gomes one particularly still makes me shudder. Genuine wtf were we thinking?
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