Richardson out

[MR. CYNICAL]

Pre-season training is quite different to mid-season training.

Why is it?

Because it serves a different purpose?

Mid-season training is about maintaining existing match fitness, managing niggles, strains and tweaks, tactical and technique focus.

Pre-season training is about building basic fitness, strength, sharpness, integrating new ideas and players.

How do you get niggles, strains and tweaks when you have hardly played since January?

[Snowflake Royal]

Why is it?

Because it serves a different purpose?

Mid-season training is about maintaining existing match fitness, managing niggles, strains and tweaks, tactical and technique focus.

Pre-season training is about building basic fitness, strength, sharpness, integrating new ideas and players.

How do you get niggles, strains and tweaks when you have hardly played since January?

Because you haven't played for 6 months, were without a club for quite a few of those and have gone into mid-season training without a pre-season.

You know that training is mostly collective, not individual right?

[Hound]

It is, but surely they could basically put him on a preseason like Individual training schedule? Give him games in u21 and lots of fitness work. He really should be well up to speed by now

TBF the issues may not all be phyisical - we know he had some personal issues and they have impacted him more than expected or made public.

Yes of course that may well be the case

Randell came in with similar lack of preseason, obvs not the personal issues, but was playing within 3-4 weeks and is now one of the first name on the team sheet

I think the fitness thing isn’t an issue now with Rino. It simply form and what he’s showing in training. Shame because I think Fraser and Savage have been pretty poor recently and a good Rino would be in that side

[Brogue]

Today was the day the fanbase turned. He has to go now. Everyone wants him gone. Playoffs are done. Get him gone now. Absolutely fcuking awful manager.

[Hound]

Today was the day the fanbase turned. He has to go now. Everyone wants him gone. Playoffs are done. Get him gone now. Absolutely fcuking awful manager.

Didn’t hear any anti Richardson at all tbh. Or any booing particularly

We played ok at times. We’re carrying players who just aren’t good enough. Fraser, Lane, Burns, Keane, maybe even POC. Along with regular crocks Williams*2 and Marriott. Move the first set along asap

[AthleticoSpizz]

Everyone???

Give him the summer and the return of our crocked first teamers.

Then maybe we’ll be better opinioned to join your ‘everyone gang’

[nailseabiscuitman]

Brogue on his Richardson out again getting a bit tiresome. Think he was advocating Luke Williams, how are Peterborough doing. I think taking over a team that seemed to have been put together with no cohesive plan was always going to be tricky. I don't get the Keane signing but Ward looks good, so a bit unlucky with injuries. A proper preseason with sensible recruitment and I think we'll see a difference.

[Brogue]

Richardson ppg since Marriott has been injured 1.38

Noel hunts ppg in 25/26 1.36

Noel only had jack fit for 7 games during his spell this season.

The only difference between these two and the reason Leam has an overall better ppg is because leam had Marriott fit and playing 16 games.

[Brogue]

Brogue on his Richardson out again getting a bit tiresome. Think he was advocating Luke Williams, how are Peterborough doing. I think taking over a team that seemed to have been put together with no cohesive plan was always going to be tricky. I don't get the Keane signing but Ward looks good, so a bit unlucky with injuries. A proper preseason with sensible recruitment and I think we'll see a difference.

I wanted warnock and still do. Or Mowbray

[Hound]

Richardson ppg since Marriott has been injured 1.38

Noel hunts ppg in 25/26 1.36

Noel only had jack fit for 7 games during his spell this season.

The only difference between these two and the reason Leam has an overall better ppg is because leam had Marriott fit and playing 16 games.

Er no.

Thought you were saying we were a better team without him not so long ago

[nailseabiscuitman]

Warnock or Mowbray? Very forward thinking

[Royalwaster]

Brogue on his Richardson out again getting a bit tiresome. Think he was advocating Luke Williams, how are Peterborough doing. I think taking over a team that seemed to have been put together with no cohesive plan was always going to be tricky. I don't get the Keane signing but Ward looks good, so a bit unlucky with injuries. A proper preseason with sensible recruitment and I think we'll see a difference.

I wanted warnock and still do. Or Mowbray

Seriously if the club sacked Richardson and appointed Warnock I'd support a different club.

[Brogue]

Brogue on his Richardson out again getting a bit tiresome. Think he was advocating Luke Williams, how are Peterborough doing. I think taking over a team that seemed to have been put together with no cohesive plan was always going to be tricky. I don't get the Keane signing but Ward looks good, so a bit unlucky with injuries. A proper preseason with sensible recruitment and I think we'll see a difference.

I wanted warnock and still do. Or Mowbray

Seriously if the club sacked Richardson and appointed Warnock I'd support a different club.

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[Snowflake Royal]

Today was the day the fanbase turned. He has to go now. Everyone wants him gone. Playoffs are done. Get him gone now. Absolutely fcuking awful manager.

Absolute nonsense in every way.

[WestYorksRoyal]

He has a good record overall, and more to the point I don't think anyone else would be doing much better with this squad. Look at how the anointed one Luke Williams has been getting on at Peterborough for comparison. Taking over a poorly performing team mid season and making them look like a top 6 side is bloody hard. I still blame summer recruitment. Lane, Ritchie, Fraser, O'Mahony...so many not delivering what was expected.

I will judge him properly next season. After a full pre season and summer transfer window, he won't be able to make the same excuses for these sort of performances.

[Hound]

He has a good record overall, and more to the point I don't think anyone else would be doing much better with this squad. Look at how the anointed one Luke Williams has been getting on at Peterborough for comparison. Taking over a poorly performing team mid season and making them look like a top 6 side is bloody hard. I still blame summer recruitment. Lane, Ritchie, Fraser, O'Mahony...so many not delivering what was expected.

I will judge him properly next season. After a full pre season and summer transfer window, he won't be able to make the same excuses for these sort of performances.

Agreed. I don’t know what sort of team we were trying to be with the recruitment. Ended up lightweight, slow, unfit

The signing of Ward and chase ot Lisbie suggests the direction we want to go in. Younger, bigger, quicker, stronger.

[Armadillo Roadkill]

I still say Richardson In.

From relegation candidates to upper-mid table security. We'd have (almost) all have taken that in October with the way things were going.

It will take longer than 6 months to turn around the team. He recognises this, and has previous history of achieving it. So we know he can do it.

Condemning his approach now would be like saying Turner or Monet were sh!t at painting after the first few coats. It's a process.

Honestly, I cannot believe anyone suggests Colin as his replacement. Why not Steve Bruce, Sam Allardyce, Alain Curbishley? All the old favourites from some golden tinted nostalgic past of "football is a simple game" and "tactics over complicate things."

[Snowflake Royal]

Remind me, what was the trajectory of our three best managers of the last 25 odd years?

McDermott - took over struggling side mid-season, narrowly missed POs, PO Final, Champions...

Coppell - took over successful side mid-season, missed POs, narrowly missed POs, Champions

Pardew - took over struggling side mid-season and got top half, PO Final, 2nd, PO Final division above.

It's... it's almost like our best managers aren’t instant successes and need 4 or 5 transfer windows to build something fantastic... I wonder what we could take from this....

I know, it's call for every manager to be sacked within 6 months!

[Orion1871]

I am less than convinced about his ability to use a transfer window and pre-season to change as his football has always been like this. I've lost count of the amount of times I saw Wigan fans say "you'll come out of games wondering how you won". If a fanbase who actually like him say that about him then it doesn't suggest to me that he has the ability to go against what he has been doing for his entire managerial career, despite his words at fan forums.

His own recruitment hasn't exactly set the world alight. Only Ward and Nyambe have had a positive impact. Roberts has been injured. Young only gets 10 minutes, if he's lucky enough to get on the pitch. The less said about his mate Keane the better.

We are stuck with him, there is no point calling for him to go. We just have to hope he flukes a promotion, beyond his ability as a manager, in the next couple of seasons. This thread was pointless when it was started just after he was appointed and it is pointless now.

[Stranded]

Remind me, what was the trajectory of our three best managers of the last 25 odd years?

McDermott - took over struggling side mid-season, narrowly missed POs, PO Final, Champions...

Coppell - took over successful side mid-season, missed POs, narrowly missed POs, Champions

Pardew - took over struggling side mid-season and got top half, PO Final, 2nd, PO Final division above.

It's... it's almost like our best managers aren’t instant successes and need 4 or 5 transfer windows to build something fantastic... I wonder what we could take from this....

I know, it's call for every manager to be sacked within 6 months!

Very much this - you would think after the massively unstable few years we have had, people would actually have a tiny bit of patience and see where the team we appear to be looking at building (see Jan transfers in the main) from where we were. The biggest mistake was the recruitment last summer which was hamstrung by the sale taking so long and ended up being a lot more ramshackle than expected.

We will, for the first time in years, be going into a summer window with a coaching team in place and an ownership group who will support recruitment based on a plan. There is also the massively key point, that we will actually be able to have a proper pre-season with both a coaching team and squad (even if a few signings come later) - we haven't had one of those in an age either.

We won't make the play-offs - that is OK - but if we change manager now, we will be ripping up yet more plans and starting from behind the 8 ball on summer recruitement - remember, that will already have begun, we will have been speaking to clubs/agents about deals this summer for weeks, if not months - so changing again puts us back to square one.