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Re: Transfer deadline day rumours in's and out's
Posted: 31 Aug 2021 21:32
by Zip
Stranded wrote:NathStPaul wrote:Zip wrote:It’s looking like our business is done. Presumably letting one go was the sticking point. Did we really need Drinkwater? A striker was much more of a priority.
The second Joao picked up the injury every other line of enquiry should have stopped and all of our eggs should have gone into the finding a striker basket. The club have no excuses really, we've had weeks to find someone. More importantly we've had the ability to do so given our other signings, its not like the EFL stopped us or anything.
Strikers, at least those who could be worthwhile at this level are hard to come by. With our restrictions possibly close to impossible.
We could only bring in a loanee where the loaning club would be willing to have no loan fee and subsidise wages over 8.5k & free agent strikers will bide their time. Carroll or another striker may well see their stock rise next week.
If we can't get one in then we may be better served using Clarke. He may turn into a gem.
I don’t think we can play Clarke upfront on his own. It’s a huge ask. There is a lot of criticism of Puscas. However the service he has received has been dreadful. He hasn’t missed clear cut chances. He can’t create chances for himself like Joao can. I doubt Clarke can either. So for a change let’s play both Puscas and Joao upfront. If we carry on playing a lone striker it just isn’t going to work.
Re: Transfer deadline day rumours in's and out's
Posted: 31 Aug 2021 21:35
by blythspartan
We can’t even sign free agents unless we offload another player, so I assume we can’t sign anyone now until next January. I can’t believe we signed Drinkwater knowing this.
Best we can hope for is 0-0 in every game between now and Christmas. I wonder what the lowest number of Championship points is. At this rate we might end up with both records.
Re: Transfer deadline day rumours in's and out's
Posted: 31 Aug 2021 21:37
by Stranded
NathStPaul wrote:Stranded wrote:NathStPaul wrote:
The second Joao picked up the injury every other line of enquiry should have stopped and all of our eggs should have gone into the finding a striker basket. The club have no excuses really, we've had weeks to find someone. More importantly we've had the ability to do so given our other signings, its not like the EFL stopped us or anything.
Strikers, at least those who could be worthwhile at this level are hard to come by. With our restrictions possibly close to impossible.
We could only bring in a loanee where the loaning club would be willing to have no loan fee and subsidise wages over 8.5k & free agent strikers will bide their time. Carroll or another striker may well see their stock rise next week.
If we can't get one in then we may be better served using Clarke. He may turn into a gem.
Exactly, they are hard to come by so the second Joao is injured you have to exhaust every available option. If Andy Carroll was that option then go for him 2 weeks ago instead of days before the window closes.
If I had to guess, Paunovic thought he'd be ok with Puscas/Azeez as striker options. The latter then gets injured and the former just isn't doing it in the slightest.
Other possible scenario is the club tried to shift a couple out today and there were no takers meaning Carroll couldn't happen.
Think it needs to be explained either way, on the face of it the lack of new striker is farcical.
Well Exclusives suggests we have spoken to him but not agreed anything and that he is waiting to see if better offers materialise. Not much we can do there if true.
Not saying we shouldn't be bringing in a striker but with our restrictions the available list of those we can bring in, who would be worthwhile is small and we aren't massively enticing in our current shit state. So if that short list runs out quickly then better to back a youth player to battle Puscas for a spot over a random body.
Re: Transfer deadline day rumours in's and out's
Posted: 31 Aug 2021 21:40
by Stranded
blythspartan wrote:We can’t even sign free agents unless we offload another player, so I assume we can’t sign anyone now until next January. I can’t believe we signed Drinkwater knowing this.
Best we can hope for is 0-0 in every game between now and Christmas. I wonder what the lowest number of Championship points is. At this rate we might end up with both records.
We don't know the situation, we don't know if or when the EFL changed the terms to 1 in, 1 out or that they definitely had.
We don't yet know if an outgoing has fallen through. It will come out in time.
For me though, we do need Drinkwater (or similar) as we can't rely on Laurent/Rino again all season. He also could give the midfield a different dynamic.
Re: Transfer deadline day rumours in's and out's
Posted: 31 Aug 2021 21:41
by Zip
blythspartan wrote:We can’t even sign free agents unless we offload another player, so I assume we can’t sign anyone now until next January. I can’t believe we signed Drinkwater knowing this.
Best we can hope for is 0-0 in every game between now and Christmas. I wonder what the lowest number of Championship points is. At this rate we might end up with both records.
I gather you are correct. So that is it until January. We will find out tomorrow why Drinkwater was signed in the knowledge that we couldn’t just go out and get a striker with one day to go without moving one of our own on.
We just have to hope Pauno can sort out a formation that offers our forward/s a better service than they have received thus far.
Re: Transfer deadline day rumours in's and out's
Posted: 31 Aug 2021 21:50
by Nameless
Zip wrote:blythspartan wrote:We can’t even sign free agents unless we offload another player, so I assume we can’t sign anyone now until next January. I can’t believe we signed Drinkwater knowing this.
Best we can hope for is 0-0 in every game between now and Christmas. I wonder what the lowest number of Championship points is. At this rate we might end up with both records.
I gather you are correct. So that is it until January. We will find out tomorrow why Drinkwater was signed in the knowledge that we couldn’t just go out and get a striker with one day to go without moving one of our own on.
We just have to hope Pauno can sort out a formation that offers our forward/s a better service than they have received thus far.
It doesn’t mean we can’t sign anyone until January, and how you can draw that conclusion I have no idea.
The EFL sanctions change constantly. There will be all sorts of things we can do to get the restrictions relaxed yet again and once we have made more movement the EFL will respond.
Re: Transfer deadline day rumours in's and out's
Posted: 31 Aug 2021 21:53
by NathStPaul
Nameless wrote:Zip wrote:blythspartan wrote:We can’t even sign free agents unless we offload another player, so I assume we can’t sign anyone now until next January. I can’t believe we signed Drinkwater knowing this.
Best we can hope for is 0-0 in every game between now and Christmas. I wonder what the lowest number of Championship points is. At this rate we might end up with both records.
I gather you are correct. So that is it until January. We will find out tomorrow why Drinkwater was signed in the knowledge that we couldn’t just go out and get a striker with one day to go without moving one of our own on.
We just have to hope Pauno can sort out a formation that offers our forward/s a better service than they have received thus far.
It doesn’t mean we can’t sign anyone until January, and how you can draw that conclusion I have no idea.
The EFL sanctions change constantly. There will be all sorts of things we can do to get the restrictions relaxed yet again and once we have made more movement the EFL will respond.
But we can't offload a player, that seems to be the key. One in and one out seems to be what the EFL want.
Re: Transfer deadline day rumours in's and out's
Posted: 31 Aug 2021 21:54
by Notts Royal
After the initial Twitter excitement over 2 has-beens, the reality that we’ve not signed a striker but managed to bring in 4 midfielders is starting to sink in.
Looking like a long hard season ahead
Re: Transfer deadline day rumours in's and out's
Posted: 31 Aug 2021 22:05
by Crowbar6753
I see Bournmuff have signed Ryan Christie from Celtic! he was remoured to go to the Premiership, how the hell did they pull this one out of the hat!! is this their last year of parachute payments anyone?
I really hope we stuff them this year, i really hate that club lol.
Re: Transfer deadline day rumours in's and out's
Posted: 31 Aug 2021 22:10
by Zip
Nameless wrote:Zip wrote:blythspartan wrote:We can’t even sign free agents unless we offload another player, so I assume we can’t sign anyone now until next January. I can’t believe we signed Drinkwater knowing this.
Best we can hope for is 0-0 in every game between now and Christmas. I wonder what the lowest number of Championship points is. At this rate we might end up with both records.
I gather you are correct. So that is it until January. We will find out tomorrow why Drinkwater was signed in the knowledge that we couldn’t just go out and get a striker with one day to go without moving one of our own on.
We just have to hope Pauno can sort out a formation that offers our forward/s a better service than they have received thus far.
It doesn’t mean we can’t sign anyone until January, and how you can draw that conclusion I have no idea.
The EFL sanctions change constantly. There will be all sorts of things we can do to get the restrictions relaxed yet again and once we have made more movement the EFL will respond.
I draw that conclusion based upon the EFL rules applicable to teams in a transfer embargo where if the club has 16 senior players we cannot sign players outside of the window. Whether we are able to persuade the EFL that we should be allowed to bring in a striker very much remains to be seen. Quite what movement you are referring to I simply don’t know.
Re: Transfer deadline day rumours in's and out's
Posted: 31 Aug 2021 22:12
by Zip
NathStPaul wrote:Nameless wrote:Zip wrote:
I gather you are correct. So that is it until January. We will find out tomorrow why Drinkwater was signed in the knowledge that we couldn’t just go out and get a striker with one day to go without moving one of our own on.
We just have to hope Pauno can sort out a formation that offers our forward/s a better service than they have received thus far.
It doesn’t mean we can’t sign anyone until January, and how you can draw that conclusion I have no idea.
The EFL sanctions change constantly. There will be all sorts of things we can do to get the restrictions relaxed yet again and once we have made more movement the EFL will respond.
But we can't offload a player, that seems to be the key. One in and one out seems to be what the EFL want.
Correct and how are we going to offload anybody with the window about to shut?
Re: Transfer deadline day rumours in's and out's
Posted: 31 Aug 2021 22:12
by windermereROYAL
Pretty bog standard deadline day, lots of initial excitement about a striker coming in and nothing happens.
Re: Transfer deadline day rumours in's and out's
Posted: 31 Aug 2021 22:29
by blythspartan
We must have the worst striking options in the EFL and I am shocked that we couldn’t find just one striker to bring in.
Anyway, no more bleating from me it is what it is and I’ll be there against QPR and Peterborough but not hopeful of any points.
Re: Transfer deadline day rumours in's and out's
Posted: 31 Aug 2021 22:30
by Notts Royal
windermereROYAL wrote:Pretty bog standard deadline day, lots of initial excitement about a striker coming in and nothing happens.
& the fake hoops managed to pull off Andre Gray. That’s 3 decent strikers they have vs our 1 crocked striker.
Bournemouth got Lowe, who personally I think is a bit overrated. But a bit of a mare for Swansea who lost both him & Roberts on deadline day
Re: Transfer deadline day rumours in's and out's
Posted: 31 Aug 2021 22:36
by Zip
Notts Royal wrote:windermereROYAL wrote:Pretty bog standard deadline day, lots of initial excitement about a striker coming in and nothing happens.
& the fake hoops managed to pull off Andre Gray. That’s 3 decent strikers they have vs our 1 crocked striker.
Bournemouth got Lowe, who personally I think is a bit overrated. But a bit of a mare for Swansea who lost both him & Roberts on deadline day
Swansea have got a few coming in including Tariq Fosu and Obafemi.
Re: Transfer deadline day rumours in's and out's
Posted: 31 Aug 2021 22:37
by Ascotexgunner
Notts Royal wrote:windermereROYAL wrote:Pretty bog standard deadline day, lots of initial excitement about a striker coming in and nothing happens.
& the fake hoops managed to pull off Andre Gray. That’s 3 decent strikers they have vs our 1 crocked striker.
Bournemouth got Lowe, who personally I think is a bit overrated. But a bit of a mare for Swansea who lost both him & Roberts on deadline day
Shame we don't have 10-12 mill.....could have got Kieffer Moore. Wolves pulled out of the deal.
Re: Transfer deadline day rumours in's and out's
Posted: 31 Aug 2021 22:57
by Royal Ginger
I fancy we may see a bit of Hoilett leading the line and have a feeling he may look better than Puscas on his own.
Re: Transfer deadline day rumours in's and out's
Posted: 31 Aug 2021 23:07
by Sutekh
Zip wrote:Notts Royal wrote:windermereROYAL wrote:Pretty bog standard deadline day, lots of initial excitement about a striker coming in and nothing happens.
& the fake hoops managed to pull off Andre Gray. That’s 3 decent strikers they have vs our 1 crocked striker.
Bournemouth got Lowe, who personally I think is a bit overrated. But a bit of a mare for Swansea who lost both him & Roberts on deadline day
Swansea have got a few coming in including Tariq Fosu and Obafemi.
And Rhys Williams.
Re: Transfer deadline day rumours in's and out's
Posted: 31 Aug 2021 23:19
by tidus_mi2
For me Bournemouth are going down the same route we did, if they don't go up I can see them falling foul of FFP.
Re: Transfer deadline day rumours in's and out's
Posted: 31 Aug 2021 23:24
by Brogue
Shambles of a window, 25 midfielders 1 attacker
