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Re: Harvey Knibbs
Posted: 13 Jul 2023 15:04
by BraisingsteakRoyal
His stats are sh1t. Apparently Derby and Huddersfield were also interested in him.
Hope he's better than his stats suggest he is.
EDIT: cos they're sh1t.
Re: Harvey Knibbs
Posted: 13 Jul 2023 15:05
by Hound
Good stuff, see Bowen taking centre stage in the vid…
Hopefully a few more in shortly
Re: Harvey Knibbs
Posted: 13 Jul 2023 15:24
by WestYorksRoyal
Good work. Several more needs, but a positive 24 hours at least.
Seems like the "right" sort of signing. Clearly been tracked by Bowen and Carey for a while, young enough to improve but experienced enough to make an immediate impact. Pressing highlighted as a strength which will suit Selles.
Re: Harvey Knibbs
Posted: 13 Jul 2023 15:40
by blythspartan
A very positive signing at this level. I know this sad but life feels good again, LOL.
Re: Harvey Knibbs
Posted: 13 Jul 2023 15:59
by YorkshireRoyal99
BraisingsteakRoyal wrote:His stats are sh1t. Apparently Derby and Huddersfield were also interested in him.
Hope he's better than his stats suggest he is.
EDIT: cos they're sh1t.
It's a point though. Many fans were moaning last season when we were linked with players with underwhelming/poor stats. It's almost as if if it fits the narrative of what the fans want, rather than what is actually needed, then it passes.
Not being negative, I'm always of the idea that it's not about what someone has done before but what they can do for you and if the recruitment team think that Knibbs can thrive and improve in our team then I'm happy enough with that. But there is a view that some fans seem happy with this because it fits the narrative of young player, when his stats at this level aren't too dissimilar to others we've been linked with that were more experienced, but never really stood out.
Re: Harvey Knibbs
Posted: 13 Jul 2023 16:15
by Orion1871
BraisingsteakRoyal wrote:His stats are sh1t. Apparently Derby and Huddersfield were also interested in him.
Hope he's better than his stats suggest he is.
EDIT: cos they're sh1t.
Stats are for geeks and paedophiles.
Re: Harvey Knibbs
Posted: 13 Jul 2023 16:17
by Clyde1998
YorkshireRoyal99 wrote:BraisingsteakRoyal wrote:His stats are sh1t. Apparently Derby and Huddersfield were also interested in him.
Hope he's better than his stats suggest he is.
EDIT: cos they're sh1t.
It's a point though. Many fans were moaning last season when we were linked with players with underwhelming/poor stats. It's almost as if if it fits the narrative of what the fans want, rather than what is actually needed, then it passes.
Not being negative, I'm always of the idea that it's not about what someone has done before but what they can do for you and if the recruitment team think that Knibbs can thrive and improve in our team then I'm happy enough with that. But there is a view that some fans seem happy with this because it fits the narrative of young player, when his stats at this level aren't too dissimilar to others we've been linked with that were more experienced, but never really stood out.
Stats are dependant on what the player has been asked to do: if you've been told not to press - you're pressing stats are going to be lower than someone who's been asked to press, etc. Also Knibbs was playing for a rather poor Cambridge side last season, so that will have a bearing on his stats.
We won't know how we intend to use him until he plays - will he be a lone striker, played in strike partnership, used as a wide forward or as an attacking midfielder? What stats are even relevant will depend on this.
Re: Harvey Knibbs
Posted: 13 Jul 2023 16:30
by Brogue
BraisingsteakRoyal wrote:His stats are sh1t. Apparently Derby and Huddersfield were also interested in him.
Hope he's better than his stats suggest he is.
EDIT: cos they're sh1t.
you dont need to put a 1 in shit btw its not filtered on here
Re: Harvey Knibbs
Posted: 13 Jul 2023 16:39
by YorkshireRoyal99
Clyde1998 wrote:YorkshireRoyal99 wrote:BraisingsteakRoyal wrote:His stats are sh1t. Apparently Derby and Huddersfield were also interested in him.
Hope he's better than his stats suggest he is.
EDIT: cos they're sh1t.
It's a point though. Many fans were moaning last season when we were linked with players with underwhelming/poor stats. It's almost as if if it fits the narrative of what the fans want, rather than what is actually needed, then it passes.
Not being negative, I'm always of the idea that it's not about what someone has done before but what they can do for you and if the recruitment team think that Knibbs can thrive and improve in our team then I'm happy enough with that. But there is a view that some fans seem happy with this because it fits the narrative of young player, when his stats at this level aren't too dissimilar to others we've been linked with that were more experienced, but never really stood out.
Stats are dependant on what the player has been asked to do: if you've been told not to press - you're pressing stats are going to be lower than someone who's been asked to press, etc. Also Knibbs was playing for a rather poor Cambridge side last season, so that will have a bearing on his stats.
We won't know how we intend to use him until he plays - will he be a lone striker, played in strike partnership, used as a wide forward or as an attacking midfielder? What stats are even relevant will depend on this.
Agree and that's sort of my point as to why I don't always take previous stats into account, because if we are looking at players who are potentially more suited to our system and their best qualities can be brought out with us then obviously you'd anticipate an improvement.
A lot of fans moaned a fair bit about players with underwhelming records when we were linked with some last season, obviously it's about what they can do for us, where they can fit in, can we improve on something, have we seen another part of his game that wasn't used at his previous clubs but we can look to utilise that etc. You'd anticipate that's the case if Bowen's words are true where he says he's been on our radar for sometime.
Re: Harvey Knibbs
Posted: 13 Jul 2023 17:05
by Mid Sussex Royal
Last 2 strikers signed from Cambridge worked out ok, Butler & Kitson
Re: Harvey Knibbs
Posted: 13 Jul 2023 17:15
by CountryRoyal
Mid Sussex Royal wrote:Last 2 strikers signed from Cambridge worked out ok, Butler & Kitson
Both almost had a 1in2 goal scoring record.
Re: Harvey Knibbs
Posted: 13 Jul 2023 17:35
by Hound
He is a midfielder rather than a striker I think. 5 goals and 5 assists is ok
But he is basically young, reasonably experienced, probably cheap enough. He’ll come and be a solid squad player who is prob sub or substituted more often than not
He is a solid enough signing, don’t think anyone is pretending he is much more than that
Re: Harvey Knibbs
Posted: 13 Jul 2023 17:53
by Winston Biscuit
HobKnibAnyone?
Re: Harvey Knibbs
Posted: 13 Jul 2023 17:57
by Sutekh
Hope he'll be nicknamed Nobby.
Re: Harvey Knibbs
Posted: 13 Jul 2023 18:04
by windermereROYAL
Does this mean I can officially stop pissing the bed?
Re: Harvey Knibbs
Posted: 13 Jul 2023 18:31
by Brogue
windermereROYAL wrote:Does this mean I can officially stop pissing the bed?
You can probably take the waterproof sheet off
Re: Harvey Knibbs
Posted: 13 Jul 2023 18:41
by Snowflake Royal
Hound wrote:He is a midfielder rather than a striker I think. 5 goals and 5 assists is ok
But he is basically young, reasonably experienced, probably cheap enough. He’ll come and be a solid squad player who is prob sub or substituted more often than not
He is a solid enough signing, don’t think anyone is pretending he is much more than that
Better hope we aren't trying to use him as a striker given he's never scored more than 5 league goals in a season.
OS says he was top scorer for Cambridge in L2 with 9 goals. Must have done well in the cup because whoscored has 2 for L2 that year.
Re: Harvey Knibbs
Posted: 13 Jul 2023 18:49
by leon
The Knibbler
Re: Harvey Knibbs
Posted: 13 Jul 2023 19:59
by Clyde1998
Snowflake Royal wrote:Hound wrote:He is a midfielder rather than a striker I think. 5 goals and 5 assists is ok
But he is basically young, reasonably experienced, probably cheap enough. He’ll come and be a solid squad player who is prob sub or substituted more often than not
He is a solid enough signing, don’t think anyone is pretending he is much more than that
Better hope we aren't trying to use him as a striker given he's never scored more than 5 league goals in a season.
OS says he was top scorer for Cambridge in L2 with 9 goals. Must have done well in the cup because whoscored has 2 for L2 that year.
I think he was top scorer in his first L1 season (2021-22): it was four in the league, two in the FA Cup and three in the League Trophy. Scored five (all in the league) last season.
Re: Harvey Knibbs
Posted: 15 Jul 2023 14:14
by SouthDownsRoyal
This will be a great signing.