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Re: Pauno out

by AthleticoSpizz » 21 Jan 2022 21:56

Professionals (some from big big clubs on loan) not looking after themselves…more like

Certainly nobody is ‘trying too hard’ and over stretching themselves on the training grounds.

It’s weird tbh

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Re: Pauno out

by CountryRoyal » 21 Jan 2022 22:09

AthleticoSpizz wrote:Professionals (some from big big clubs on loan) not looking after themselves…more like

Certainly nobody is ‘trying too hard’ and over stretching themselves on the training grounds.

It’s weird tbh
How’d you work that one out?

We have 3 players on loan and they have played the 3rd, 6th and 8th most amount of minutes in the squad.

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Re: Pauno out

by AthleticoSpizz » 21 Jan 2022 22:15

Wowee…that”s one high bar :roll:

Players out on loan…and all of the reasons for it (them being out on loan) .getting injured/taking time-outs between games….they’ve got to take some responsibility for themselves.

Don’t get me wrong…the whole injury crisis (s) is all a bit strange

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Re: Pauno out

by CountryRoyal » 21 Jan 2022 22:37

AthleticoSpizz wrote:Wowee…that”s one high bar :roll:

Players out on loan…and all of the reasons for it (them being out on loan) .getting injured/taking time-outs between games….they’ve got to take some responsibility for themselves.

Don’t get me wrong…the whole injury crisis (s) is all a bit strange
Admittedly, its not saying a lot, though one of those would be even higher if he wasn't away for several games for another competition and they all joined after the start of the season. I don't think highlighting the loan players (who have remained relatively injury free) supports any kind of argument.

That's my point about the injury crisis, I don't think it is 'strange' as such. Things don't just happen, it's not just bad luck. Who is to say that it isn't a culmination of an improper training structure, inadequate rest and rehabilitation and misguidance for reintroduction to the team? From where we are, on the outside, it is just conjecture - but in my opinion its far more likely and believable once considering the manager's long-lasting demonstration of inadequacy and incompetence. Even more so when acknowledging his pre-existing reputation, and the reports from Chicago Fire fans.

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Re: Pauno out

by Hendo » 21 Jan 2022 22:48

CountryRoyal wrote:
Zip wrote:We are getting a good number of soft tissue injuries now. Dann, Hoilett, Azeez, Halilovic, Tetek (I think),.....there seems to be a serious conditioning problem with the players.
Counter-productive over intense training sessions, reported from his time in Chicago and makes sense.

This amount of injuries is not a coincidence.
On the injuries, I think we’ve always seem to have more than a fair share, but this year really does take the piss.

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Re: Pauno out

by Zip » 21 Jan 2022 22:59

Hendo wrote:
CountryRoyal wrote:
Zip wrote:We are getting a good number of soft tissue injuries now. Dann, Hoilett, Azeez, Halilovic, Tetek (I think),.....there seems to be a serious conditioning problem with the players.
Counter-productive over intense training sessions, reported from his time in Chicago and makes sense.

This amount of injuries is not a coincidence.
On the injuries, I think we’ve always seem to have more than a fair share, but this year really does take the piss.

It also seems that other clubs don’t seem to be having many injuries/ absences when we play them with the exception of WBA.

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Re: Pauno out

by AthleticoSpizz » 21 Jan 2022 23:04

CountryRoyal wrote:
AthleticoSpizz wrote:Wowee…that”s one high bar :roll:

Players out on loan…and all of the reasons for it (them being out on loan) .getting injured/taking time-outs between games….they’ve got to take some responsibility for themselves.

Don’t get me wrong…the whole injury crisis (s) is all a bit strange
Admittedly, its not saying a lot, though one of those would be even higher if he wasn't away for several games for another competition and they all joined after the start of the season. I don't think highlighting the loan players (who have remained relatively injury free) supports any kind of argument.

That's my point about the injury crisis, I don't think it is 'strange' as such. Things don't just happen, it's not just bad luck. Who is to say that it isn't a culmination of an improper training structure, inadequate rest and rehabilitation and misguidance for reintroduction to the team? From where we are, on the outside, it is just conjecture - but in my opinion its far more likely and believable once considering the manager's long-lasting demonstration of inadequacy and incompetence. Even more so when acknowledging his pre-existing reputation, and the reports from Chicago Fire fans.
fair enough…but

Players on loan from big BIG. clubs who know how to look after themselves, playing one week, then not the other is strange.
With the exception of Andy Carroll (who has been the exception in sick-bay terms) what have these other loanees going to gain from their times on our sick-list?

It’s weird, but a I think that the problem (and their ‘play one week/take next week off’ attitudes’) lies a lot with the players themselves.

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Re: Pauno out

by Snowflake Royal » 21 Jan 2022 23:12

AthleticoSpizz wrote:
CountryRoyal wrote:
AthleticoSpizz wrote:Wowee…that”s one high bar :roll:

Players out on loan…and all of the reasons for it (them being out on loan) .getting injured/taking time-outs between games….they’ve got to take some responsibility for themselves.

Don’t get me wrong…the whole injury crisis (s) is all a bit strange
Admittedly, its not saying a lot, though one of those would be even higher if he wasn't away for several games for another competition and they all joined after the start of the season. I don't think highlighting the loan players (who have remained relatively injury free) supports any kind of argument.

That's my point about the injury crisis, I don't think it is 'strange' as such. Things don't just happen, it's not just bad luck. Who is to say that it isn't a culmination of an improper training structure, inadequate rest and rehabilitation and misguidance for reintroduction to the team? From where we are, on the outside, it is just conjecture - but in my opinion its far more likely and believable once considering the manager's long-lasting demonstration of inadequacy and incompetence. Even more so when acknowledging his pre-existing reputation, and the reports from Chicago Fire fans.
fair enough…but

Players on loan from big BIG. clubs who know how to look after themselves, playing one week, then not the other is strange.
With the exception of Andy Carroll (who has been the exception in sick-bay terms) what have these other loanees going to gain from their times on our sick-list?

It’s weird, but a I think that the problem (and their ‘play one week/take next week off’ attitudes’) lies a lot with the players themselves.
Hasn't CR just told you twice that our loanees arn't on our sick list much. So why you still talking about them taking responsibility to not be on our sick list.

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Re: Pauno out

by AthleticoSpizz » 21 Jan 2022 23:21

Snowflake Royal wrote:
AthleticoSpizz wrote:
CountryRoyal wrote:
Admittedly, its not saying a lot, though one of those would be even higher if he wasn't away for several games for another competition and they all joined after the start of the season. I don't think highlighting the loan players (who have remained relatively injury free) supports any kind of argument.

That's my point about the injury crisis, I don't think it is 'strange' as such. Things don't just happen, it's not just bad luck. Who is to say that it isn't a culmination of an improper training structure, inadequate rest and rehabilitation and misguidance for reintroduction to the team? From where we are, on the outside, it is just conjecture - but in my opinion its far more likely and believable once considering the manager's long-lasting demonstration of inadequacy and incompetence. Even more so when acknowledging his pre-existing reputation, and the reports from Chicago Fire fans.
fair enough…but

Players on loan from big BIG. clubs who know how to look after themselves, playing one week, then not the other is strange.
With the exception of Andy Carroll (who has been the exception in sick-bay terms) what have these other loanees going to gain from their times on our sick-list?

It’s weird, but a I think that the problem (and their ‘play one week/take next week off’ attitudes’) lies a lot with the players themselves.
Hasn't CR just told you twice that our loanees arn't on our sick list much. So why you still talking about them taking responsibility to not be on our sick list.
Okay Ian calm down you sad post leeching fukk, maybe I am confusing ‘signings’ with loanee signings…go easy on me…it’s been (being) a long season…don’t really know who is ours and who is not…nor do I really care right now.


Oh and :wink:
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Re: Pauno out

by Snowflake Royal » 21 Jan 2022 23:22

AthleticoSpizz wrote:
Snowflake Royal wrote:
AthleticoSpizz wrote:fair enough…but

Players on loan from big BIG. clubs who know how to look after themselves, playing one week, then not the other is strange.
With the exception of Andy Carroll (who has been the exception in sick-bay terms) what have these other loanees going to gain from their times on our sick-list?

It’s weird, but a I think that the problem (and their ‘play one week/take next week off’ attitudes’) lies a lot with the players themselves.
Hasn't CR just told you twice that our loanees arn't on our sick list much. So why you still talking about them taking responsibility to not be on our sick list.
Okay Ian calm down you sad post leeching fukk, maybe I am confusing ‘signings’ with loanee signings…go easy on me…it’s been (being) a long season…don’t really know who is ours and who is not…nor do I really care right now.
nice reaction. Had a few have we?

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Re: Pauno out

by AthleticoSpizz » 21 Jan 2022 23:23

Ho…a crossover of an edit, sentiment remains the same

DDs all yours on other threads to bicker with runtboy

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Re: Pauno out

by Simmops » 22 Jan 2022 05:45

AthleticoSpizz wrote:Ho…a crossover of an edit, sentiment remains the same

DDs all yours on other threads to bicker with runtboy
You mean rentboy?

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Re: Pauno out

by St Pauli » 22 Jan 2022 15:27

Pauno OUT!

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Re: Pauno out

by Snowflake Royal » 22 Jan 2022 15:35

Good news. If Pauno oxf*rd off we do clearly have plenty of talent and motivation.

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Re: Pauno out

by St Pauli » 22 Jan 2022 16:14

Pauno OUT!

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Re: Pauno out

by Millsy » 22 Jan 2022 17:07

Agreed. Players really tried as hard as they possibly could, just excellent effort.

Huge amount of talent, but in my opinion, a full strength squad would be playoff contenders so let's not moan about injuries for this one - the squad was plenty good enough.

Pauno, please just f**k off.

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Re: Pauno out

by NathStPaul » 22 Jan 2022 17:08

Get out of the club you clown fraud. Have some fcuking humility.

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Re: Pauno out

by Simmops » 22 Jan 2022 17:16

Is it a case of we genuinely can't afford it?

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Re: Pauno out

by Snowflake Royal » 22 Jan 2022 17:23

It was a better performance, but without points against QPR I can't see how he can survive the break to Bristol.

We should have someone lined up and ready to go at 5pm next Saturday if we lose so they can spend some quality time with the squad ahead of the next game.

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Re: Pauno out

by Sutekh » 22 Jan 2022 17:24

Simmops wrote:Is it a case of we genuinely can't afford it?
I would presume that the owners are screwed by the ffp issues as they’d need to pay off the management team (Pauno and Mitrovic) to start with and doing that may well give issues further down the line with player contracts etc.

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