yeah press in midfield. Which I prefer personally to the high pressNewCorkSeth wrote:Do we press a lot? Thought we only really press in midifield. Its not like we press high up.
they are correct about RB, definitely a worry
yeah press in midfield. Which I prefer personally to the high pressNewCorkSeth wrote:Do we press a lot? Thought we only really press in midifield. Its not like we press high up.
Paunovic wants us to press in the "right way" apparently according to a recent interview with Laurent. So can only assume that means in certain situations rather than constantly.NewCorkSeth wrote:Do we press a lot? Thought we only really press in midifield. Its not like we press high up.
Although Araruna is far more a RB than DM.Hound wrote:yeah press in midfield. Which I prefer personally to the high pressNewCorkSeth wrote:Do we press a lot? Thought we only really press in midifield. Its not like we press high up.
they are correct about RB, definitely a worry
I mean, if it was down to football philosophy, I prefer a high press but it takes an incredible team to do it well.Hound wrote:yeah press in midfield. Which I prefer personally to the high pressNewCorkSeth wrote:Do we press a lot? Thought we only really press in midifield. Its not like we press high up.
they are correct about RB, definitely a worry
yeah wouldnt argue with that. tbh every time I see us try to do the high press, we just seem to do it very badly.NewCorkSeth wrote:I mean, if it was down to football philosophy, I prefer a high press but it takes an incredible team to do it well.Hound wrote:yeah press in midfield. Which I prefer personally to the high pressNewCorkSeth wrote:Do we press a lot? Thought we only really press in midifield. Its not like we press high up.
they are correct about RB, definitely a worry
My view of our pressing was that Rinomhota and Laurent do it. The 4 ahead cover more often than actually press and the CBs play a high line but don't press unless in certain situations.
Cant really say for RB as Araruna plays quite high but Richards is very good at pressing fast and hard.
Baldock might be able to press high. He has enough acceleration, drive and footballing intelligence. Cant see any of our other forwards doing it well.Hound wrote:yeah wouldnt argue with that. tbh every time I see us try to do the high press, we just seem to do it very badly.NewCorkSeth wrote:I mean, if it was down to football philosophy, I prefer a high press but it takes an incredible team to do it well.Hound wrote:
yeah press in midfield. Which I prefer personally to the high press
they are correct about RB, definitely a worry
My view of our pressing was that Rinomhota and Laurent do it. The 4 ahead cover more often than actually press and the CBs play a high line but don't press unless in certain situations.
Cant really say for RB as Araruna plays quite high but Richards is very good at pressing fast and hard.
For years we've always seemed to stand off a long distance as standard, which means to get close to press you have to run quickly, making it much easier to wrong foot you... or you have to stand off.Hound wrote:yeah wouldnt argue with that. tbh every time I see us try to do the high press, we just seem to do it very badly.NewCorkSeth wrote:I mean, if it was down to football philosophy, I prefer a high press but it takes an incredible team to do it well.Hound wrote:
yeah press in midfield. Which I prefer personally to the high press
they are correct about RB, definitely a worry
My view of our pressing was that Rinomhota and Laurent do it. The 4 ahead cover more often than actually press and the CBs play a high line but don't press unless in certain situations.
Cant really say for RB as Araruna plays quite high but Richards is very good at pressing fast and hard.
Yep. The Chris Gunter approach is what it is called.Snowflake Royal wrote:For years we've always seemed to stand off a long distance as standard, which means to get close to press you have to run quickly, making it much easier to wrong foot you... or you have to stand off.Hound wrote:yeah wouldnt argue with that. tbh every time I see us try to do the high press, we just seem to do it very badly.NewCorkSeth wrote: I mean, if it was down to football philosophy, I prefer a high press but it takes an incredible team to do it well.
My view of our pressing was that Rinomhota and Laurent do it. The 4 ahead cover more often than actually press and the CBs play a high line but don't press unless in certain situations.
Cant really say for RB as Araruna plays quite high but Richards is very good at pressing fast and hard.
Plus our shape and organisation has been a little muddled a lot making pressing as a team hard.
Rino and Laurent working together adds so much to the team. Laurent isn't an amazing player, but he's so important to making us tick.
yeah I'm a big fan. The fact that Laurent is a big lad and decent in the air is a huge bonus as well.Snowflake Royal wrote: Rino and Laurent working together adds so much to the team. Laurent isn't an amazing player, but he's so important to making us tick.
There's a lot to be said for determined water carriers who run all day and keep it simple, even if they aren't technically brilliant.Hound wrote:yeah I'm a big fan. The fact that Laurent is a big lad and decent in the air is a huge bonus as well.Snowflake Royal wrote: Rino and Laurent working together adds so much to the team. Laurent isn't an amazing player, but he's so important to making us tick.
The good thing about Laurent as well is, that he genuinely looks like he is enjoying playing for the club, which is really nice to see.Snowflake Royal wrote:There's a lot to be said for determined water carriers who run all day and keep it simple, even if they aren't technically brilliant.Hound wrote:yeah I'm a big fan. The fact that Laurent is a big lad and decent in the air is a huge bonus as well.Snowflake Royal wrote: Rino and Laurent working together adds so much to the team. Laurent isn't an amazing player, but he's so important to making us tick.
But I'm shit, so of course I'd rate hard work over talent
Interestingly against Derby Rinomhota played the water carrier role and against Barnsley Laurent did. Wonder why they switched.Snowflake Royal wrote:There's a lot to be said for determined water carriers who run all day and keep it simple, even if they aren't technically brilliant.Hound wrote:yeah I'm a big fan. The fact that Laurent is a big lad and decent in the air is a huge bonus as well.Snowflake Royal wrote: Rino and Laurent working together adds so much to the team. Laurent isn't an amazing player, but he's so important to making us tick.
But I'm shit, so of course I'd rate hard work over talent
Probably just managing workloads with it still being early in the season and without a proper pre-season.NewCorkSeth wrote:Interestingly against Derby Rinomhota played the water carrier role and against Barnsley Laurent did. Wonder why they switched.Snowflake Royal wrote:There's a lot to be said for determined water carriers who run all day and keep it simple, even if they aren't technically brilliant.Hound wrote:
yeah I'm a big fan. The fact that Laurent is a big lad and decent in the air is a huge bonus as well.
But I'm shit, so of course I'd rate hard work over talent
Ah yes. Could be correct there. As I said in the Derby thread, Rinomhota is an excellent water carrier. Still would love to see him in a box to box role one day.Hendo wrote:Probably just managing workloads with it still being early in the season and without a proper pre-season.NewCorkSeth wrote:Interestingly against Derby Rinomhota played the water carrier role and against Barnsley Laurent did. Wonder why they switched.Snowflake Royal wrote: There's a lot to be said for determined water carriers who run all day and keep it simple, even if they aren't technically brilliant.
But I'm shit, so of course I'd rate hard work over talent
Rinomhota certainly dropped into the position we saw swift take up last season between the 2 CBs against Derby and Laurent did it against Barnsley. Didnt see anyone do it much against Cardiff as they seemingly, and cleverly, decided to play it a bit longer. If the ref was such a shambles we would have done better against Cardiff. Morro could have gotten 2 yellows easily.Snowflake Royal wrote:Think they both play it, that's the benefit. Inevitably one will end up getting forward a bit more than the other.
Maybe as they play together and understand each other more they'll both do it a bit. I remember with Sidwell and Harper that when one broke forward, the other instinctively knew to fill in.NewCorkSeth wrote:Rinomhota certainly dropped into the position we saw swift take up last season between the 2 CBs against Derby and Laurent did it against Barnsley. Didnt see anyone do it much against Cardiff as they seemingly, and cleverly, decided to play it a bit longer. If the ref was such a shambles we would have done better against Cardiff. Morro could have gotten 2 yellows easily.Snowflake Royal wrote:Think they both play it, that's the benefit. Inevitably one will end up getting forward a bit more than the other.
But it’s effective, especially in this league. Rather that than your Norwoods or Guthries who were technically superior but lacked substance. And, personally, they’re more entertaining to watch!Snowflake Royal wrote:There's a lot to be said for determined water carriers who run all day and keep it simple, even if they aren't technically brilliant.Hound wrote:yeah I'm a big fan. The fact that Laurent is a big lad and decent in the air is a huge bonus as well.Snowflake Royal wrote: Rino and Laurent working together adds so much to the team. Laurent isn't an amazing player, but he's so important to making us tick.
But I'm shit, so of course I'd rate hard work over talent
LOL, Norwood had plenty of substance.Notts Royal wrote:But it’s effective, especially in this league. Rather that than your Norwoods or Guthries who were technically superior but lacked substance. And, personally, they’re more entertaining to watch!Snowflake Royal wrote:There's a lot to be said for determined water carriers who run all day and keep it simple, even if they aren't technically brilliant.Hound wrote:
yeah I'm a big fan. The fact that Laurent is a big lad and decent in the air is a huge bonus as well.
But I'm shit, so of course I'd rate hard work over talent
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