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Re: Steve Clarke's budget talks with owners

Posted: 24 Jun 2015 12:07
by Coppelled_Streets
RoyalBlue wrote:
winchester_royal wrote:Plus Charles Watts is a journo..he can't 'confirm' anything
Journalists can be pretty effective and accurate at confirming things. Yes, some speculate pretty wildly but other's have a good detective's knack of digging out evidence that allows them to accurately confirm what others are trying to keep out of the public domain.
CW has been very good since he came in. A lot lot better than Fordham used to be, always falling for nonsense created on this forum and others, but he admits himself, he can even buy an interview with Steve Clarke. The club have been ignoring all his requests. So the chances are he doesn't have much to go on at the moment.

Re: Steve Clarke's budget talks with owners

Posted: 24 Jun 2015 13:47
by winchester_royal
Yes, I agree Watts is decentish, but he still can't 'confirm' anything.

Re: Steve Clarke's budget talks with owners

Posted: 24 Jun 2015 13:49
by Sutekh
winchester_royal wrote:Yes, I agree Watts is decentish, but he still can't 'confirm' anything.
Rather depends on your interpretation of confirming if he's spoken to the club on something which the club confirms. He can then confirm that to the public.

Re: Steve Clarke's budget talks with owners

Posted: 24 Jun 2015 13:51
by Norfolk Royal
So Watts is sort of operating in the hinterland of the known knowns and known unknowns of the confirmation world?

Re: Steve Clarke's budget talks with owners

Posted: 24 Jun 2015 13:56
by linkenholtroyal
In the interview SC said 3-4 days so I assume everyone on here will go in to meltdown if no one has signed by 5 pm thursday

Re: Steve Clarke's budget talks with owners

Posted: 24 Jun 2015 14:12
by winchester_royal
Sutekh wrote:
winchester_royal wrote:Yes, I agree Watts is decentish, but he still can't 'confirm' anything.
Rather depends on your interpretation of confirming if he's spoken to the club on something which the club confirms. He can then confirm that to the public.
Not really. we have no way of knowing if he's actually spoken to the club, unless the club confirms that they have spoken to him.

He can report what he knows, but he can't confirm.

Re: Steve Clarke's budget talks with owners

Posted: 24 Jun 2015 14:24
by SCIAG
CholseyRoyal wrote: Didn't Anton use all the parachute payments as collateral for a loan for himself and his hockey business or did that never come out or was not true?
No, that's a warped version of the truth.

The football club took out a loan against the first year of parachute payments so they could pay players when it turned out Anton couldn't pay them himself.

No such issues this year - draw your own conclusions about where the money to pay players has come from.

Re: Steve Clarke's budget talks with owners

Posted: 24 Jun 2015 14:28
by Sutekh
winchester_royal wrote:
Sutekh wrote:
winchester_royal wrote:Yes, I agree Watts is decentish, but he still can't 'confirm' anything.
Rather depends on your interpretation of confirming if he's spoken to the club on something which the club confirms. He can then confirm that to the public.
Not really. we have no way of knowing if he's actually spoken to the club, unless the club confirms that they have spoken to him.

He can report what he knows, but he can't confirm.
So in this case he is reporting he's confirmed it.

Given the silence from the club on nearly everything strikes me that's as good a confirmation we'll ever get on anything.

Re: Steve Clarke's budget talks with owners

Posted: 24 Jun 2015 14:38
by winchester_royal
Again, it may well be, but Charles Watts saying that his source has told him something does not in anyway represent a confirmation from the club.

Re: Steve Clarke's budget talks with owners

Posted: 24 Jun 2015 14:51
by WoodleyRoyal
winchester_royal wrote:Again, it may well be, but Charles Watts saying that his source has told him something does not in anyway represent a confirmation from the club.
Another one sounding like ian royal - this close season has all been about Ian Royal SCIAG and Winchester_Royal waving your dicks around trying to be the oracle on here. Give it a rest will ya

Re: Steve Clarke's budget talks with owners

Posted: 24 Jun 2015 15:08
by Coppelled_Streets
WoodleyRoyal wrote:
winchester_royal wrote:Again, it may well be, but Charles Watts saying that his source has told him something does not in anyway represent a confirmation from the club.
Another one sounding like ian royal - this close season has all been about Ian Royal SCIAG and Winchester_Royal waving your dicks around trying to be the oracle on here. Give it a rest will ya
They tried to be Oracle's but turned out to be The Butts... :oops:

Re: Steve Clarke's budget talks with owners

Posted: 24 Jun 2015 15:13
by SCIAG
WoodleyRoyal wrote:
winchester_royal wrote:Again, it may well be, but Charles Watts saying that his source has told him something does not in anyway represent a confirmation from the club.
Another one sounding like ian royal - this close season has all been about Ian Royal SCIAG and Winchester_Royal waving your dicks around trying to be the oracle on here. Give it a rest will ya
I keep trying, but other people insist on being wrong.

If everyone else would start holding the exact opinions I do, then this discussion board would be a much better and more interesting place for everyone.

Re: Steve Clarke's budget talks with owners

Posted: 24 Jun 2015 15:35
by linkenholtroyal
That's a bit single minded, so if there not of the same opinion as you they are wrong, so your basically hitler with a smaller audience

Re: Steve Clarke's budget talks with owners

Posted: 24 Jun 2015 15:43
by Royal Ginger
linkenholtroyal wrote:That's a bit single minded, so if there not of the same opinion as you they are wrong, so your basically hitler with a smaller audience
Awww sweetie, here, have a whoosh.

Re: Steve Clarke's budget talks with owners

Posted: 24 Jun 2015 16:08
by John Smith
WoodleyRoyal wrote:
winchester_royal wrote:Again, it may well be, but Charles Watts saying that his source has told him something does not in anyway represent a confirmation from the club.
Another one sounding like ian royal - this close season has all been about Ian Royal SCIAG and Winchester_Royal waving your dicks around trying to be the oracle on here. Give it a rest will ya
Good post.

Re: Steve Clarke's budget talks with owners

Posted: 24 Jun 2015 16:34
by winchester_royal
John Smith wrote:
WoodleyRoyal wrote:
winchester_royal wrote:Again, it may well be, but Charles Watts saying that his source has told him something does not in anyway represent a confirmation from the club.
Another one sounding like ian royal - this close season has all been about Ian Royal SCIAG and Winchester_Royal waving your dicks around trying to be the oracle on here. Give it a rest will ya
Good post.
It really isn't.

One should be careful when deciding what's official confirmation and what isn't.

Re: Steve Clarke's budget talks with owners

Posted: 24 Jun 2015 16:44
by WoodleyRoyal
YEAH! let that be a lesson to all of you, deciding what's official confirmation and what isn't can kill you know

Re: Steve Clarke's budget talks with owners

Posted: 24 Jun 2015 17:47
by winchester_royal
WoodleyRoyal wrote:YEAH! let that be a lesson to all of you, deciding what's official confirmation and what isn't can kill you know
You're trying a little hard here m8

Maybe bring it down a couple of notches

Re: Steve Clarke's budget talks with owners

Posted: 24 Jun 2015 17:48
by Ian Royal
CholseyRoyal wrote:
melonhead wrote:
Royal_jimmy wrote:
Charles Watts confirmed Pogrebnyak is not on anywhere near that. Ferdinand is nowhere near that either. The players we released has saved us maybe £4m off the wage bill too.
haven't we lost about 8 million in parachute payments from last year though?

Didn't Anton use all the parachute payments as collateral for a loan for himself and his hockey business or did that never come out or was not true?
It seemed to me a lot of panicking and bleating based on a total misunderstanding. Parachute payments seem to be predominantly paid at the end of the season, so given what we've seen happen since, it makes most sense (and I think it may even have been confirmed) that we took a loan out during 13/14 for the 13/14 parachute payment because Anton didn't actually have a pot to piss in. That was then supposed to be paid off at the end of the season, but football loan companies being what they are, would have been for significantly more than the amount we loaned, so probably more than the parachute payment. On top of that we then had to pay costs (like tax) at the point our revenue streams stopped providing.

The Thais came in and paid off Vibrac and bought out SJM and Anton. We'll have just received the bulk of the 14/15 parachute payments recently. But then they drop by about £8m as brendy said.

Re: Steve Clarke's budget talks with owners

Posted: 24 Jun 2015 17:51
by Ian Royal
WoodleyRoyal wrote:
winchester_royal wrote:Again, it may well be, but Charles Watts saying that his source has told him something does not in anyway represent a confirmation from the club.
Another one sounding like ian royal - this close season has all been about Ian Royal SCIAG and Winchester_Royal waving your dicks around trying to be the oracle on here. Give it a rest will ya
Just because some of us pay attention and try to be helpful, there's no need to sulk.