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Re: Gunts on his way?
Posted: 23 Jan 2016 17:56
by CountryRoyal
Nameless wrote:CountryRoyal wrote:I give up. If ever I find myself bored enough as dave royal/jojo, I'll trawl through the highlights of every game and compile every single mistake he has made. Unfortunately, for obvious reason, it wouldn't show up all the times he could have delivered a decent ball into the box, but didn't.
Not sure these Gunter 'mistakes' will feature heavily in ahighlights package !
And you could probably pick almost any player and come up with an extensive list of errors. Football is an error strewn game, most players get at least as much wrong as they do right.
Mistakes leading directly to the opposition goal - why wouldn't they?
Re: Gunts on his way?
Posted: 23 Jan 2016 18:18
by Oilroyal
According to CW plenty of clubs forming a line for his signiture. Would prefer we kept him for another 2 seasons unless we magic up a jem of a replacement.
Re: Gunts on his way?
Posted: 23 Jan 2016 18:40
by Nameless
CountryRoyal wrote:Nameless wrote:CountryRoyal wrote:I give up. If ever I find myself bored enough as dave royal/jojo, I'll trawl through the highlights of every game and compile every single mistake he has made. Unfortunately, for obvious reason, it wouldn't show up all the times he could have delivered a decent ball into the box, but didn't.
Not sure these Gunter 'mistakes' will feature heavily in ahighlights package !
And you could probably pick almost any player and come up with an extensive list of errors. Football is an error strewn game, most players get at least as much wrong as they do right.
Mistakes leading directly to the opposition goal - why wouldn't they?
You've made a major change to your criteria there...
Were you at the game today ? Excellent crossing from Gunter, top support play and some very good defensive work.
No doubt more clubs now on the phone to see what price we'll accept....
Re: Gunts on his way?
Posted: 23 Jan 2016 18:59
by andrew1957
Yet again the "useless" Gunter saved us from going 2-0 with a match saving tackle.
He will be very hard to replace IMO and I hope he stays and signs a new contract.
Re: Gunts on his way?
Posted: 23 Jan 2016 19:17
by Snowball
andrew1957 wrote:Yet again the "useless" Gunter saved us from going 2-0 with a match saving tackle.
He will be very hard to replace IMO and I hope he stays and signs a new contract.
Fair play. I thought it was his best ever game for us
Re: Gunts on his way?
Posted: 23 Jan 2016 19:32
by Ian Royal
I thought bar the block he was bang average again.
Virtually every first touch when not in acres of space was to control it back inside, dither, then pass sideways or backwards. Didn't always have a choice, but so often ignored the early ball up the line or forward and inside.
And my god, but at throw ins he's even worse. We show for it badly, but even when it's on he's not even remotely interested in quick ball.
Re: Gunts on his way?
Posted: 23 Jan 2016 21:03
by AthleticoSpizz
Really Ian??
Seriously, were you actually there today?
Re: Gunts on his way?
Posted: 23 Jan 2016 21:12
by Snowball
AthleticoSpizz wrote:Really Ian??
Seriously, were you actually there today?
Absolutely, Gunts was overlapping well, interposing well, crossing well
Ian must be full of something that rhymes with hit
Re: Gunts on his way?
Posted: 23 Jan 2016 21:16
by AthleticoSpizz
Ian is not normally one of those to join the pre-conceived idea'd herd
Maybe just today...he is
Either that, or he forgot his glasses/forgot the batteries for his radio etc etc
Re: Gunts on his way?
Posted: 23 Jan 2016 21:49
by OLLIE KEARNS
Snowball wrote:andrew1957 wrote:Yet again the "useless" Gunter saved us from going 2-0 with a match saving tackle.
He will be very hard to replace IMO and I hope he stays and signs a new contract.
Fair play. I thought it was his best ever game for us
I, like Snowball, have posted that he played very well today but the last ditch block came from him going to sleep as Forestieri got the run on him at the back post. Fair play to him for recovering from his error but the best defenders cut the danger out before you even realise there was any danger in the first place. But, he had a good game overall for sure today.
Re: Gunts on his way?
Posted: 23 Jan 2016 21:50
by CountryRoyal
Nameless wrote:
You've made a major change to your criteria there...
Were you at the game today ? Excellent crossing from Gunter, top support play and some very good defensive work.
No doubt more clubs now on the phone to see what price we'll accept....
I was referring to how his mistakes cost us goals in a previous post so I assumed the continuity was obvious. Apologies if it wasn't clear.
I wasn't actually, was up at my gfs so went to Salford FC v Buxton. Right back put in some nice balls into the box which made a change from my usual viewing.

Re: Gunts on his way?
Posted: 23 Jan 2016 21:50
by Ian Royal
He did overlap fairly well later in the second half and put some good crosses in. My problem isn't that he made obvious errors, it's with what he could be doing to be more positive and effective early in the build up, particularly in the middle third. So many times I saw him slow us down and make us start again.
Something he's guilty of at throw ins too. Opposition defences and midfields must love him... oooh, Gunter's on the ball or taking the throw in, plenty of time to find our shape and set ourselves.
Re: Gunts on his way?
Posted: 23 Jan 2016 21:51
by CountryRoyal
Ian Royal wrote:
Something he's guilty of at throw ins too. Opposition defences and midfields must love him... oooh, Gunter's on the ball or taking the throw in, plenty of time to find our shape and set ourselves.
He's not on his own there tbf Ian.
Re: Gunts on his way?
Posted: 23 Jan 2016 21:53
by AthleticoSpizz
Great game I would say....yes he cocked up once if you have to split hairs......but what a decent recovery........reminded me of Murtz with a Kebe rocket up his arse down the wing
Re: Gunts on his way?
Posted: 23 Jan 2016 21:54
by AthleticoSpizz
Whewwwww backtracking Ian

Re: Gunts on his way?
Posted: 23 Jan 2016 21:59
by Ian Royal
CountryRoyal wrote:Ian Royal wrote:
Something he's guilty of at throw ins too. Opposition defences and midfields must love him... oooh, Gunter's on the ball or taking the throw in, plenty of time to find our shape and set ourselves.
He's not on his own there tbf Ian.
Never a truer word spoken, and the issue at throw ins is often also the lack of any movement from the player's on the pitch. But there were a number of occasions he had easy quick options he didn't take. I wonder if it's a perpetuating cycle... no one moves early because they know the full back will have to take it and won't be looking to release quick ball, then once the full back's decided he's ready, everyone's tightly marked and there's still little movement so it still doesn't come in. The full back never looks to release quick ball, because he knows no bugger is going to be looking for it.
The nearest player's should be looking for an instant opportunity, if there isn't one wait 'til everyone's set. Then at least two players have to move at once to receive, not one at a time. Make the oppo wonder where it's going to go and how soon, they'll make mistakes and leave space.
Re: Gunts on his way?
Posted: 23 Jan 2016 22:01
by Ian Royal
AthleticoSpizz wrote:Whewwwww backtracking Ian

Don't think there's a backtrack there, just a bit more detail.
Re: Gunts on his way?
Posted: 23 Jan 2016 22:02
by AthleticoSpizz
Ian for manager
On a Gunts thread
Re: Gunts on his way?
Posted: 23 Jan 2016 22:05
by OLLIE KEARNS
AthleticoSpizz wrote:Great game I would say....yes he cocked up once if you have to split hairs......but what a decent recovery........reminded me of Murtz with a Kebe rocket up his arse down the wing
I think losing your man and leaving him unmarked 10 yards from goal is a bit more than splitting hairs

But recovery is his main defensive strength so fair play to him for reacting. I actually though he put some decent crosses in today as well.
Re: Gunts on his way?
Posted: 23 Jan 2016 22:23
by Ian Royal
AthleticoSpizz wrote:Ian for manager
On a Gunts thread
If I win the lottery I'll go for my coaching badges, try to qualify as a ref, and go for a sports science qualification and we'll see then.