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Re: SPECULATION - Danny Williams
Posted: 28 Mar 2019 11:25
by Denver Royal
From Despair To Where? wrote:Snowflake Royal wrote:John Smith wrote:
Top 10
ROFL.
Kitson, Doyle, Sigurdsson, Kebe, Little, Sidwell, Harper, Gunnarsson, Shaka, Hahnemann, Wdowczyk, Ingimarsson, Convey, Osborn, McAnuff, Long, A Williams, Gooding, S Taylor, Sonko, Harte, Griffin, Leigertwood, Gorkss, Pearce, J Quinn, Murty, Bernal, Cureton, Forster...
I could go on.
I'll concede he might squeek in to a top 10 midfielders if wingers don't count. Didn't see enough of Taylor and Osborn to know whether to count them as wingers or midfielders
1. Sig
2. Sid
3. Harps
4. Gooding
5. Gunnarsson
6. Leigertwood
7. Tabb
8. Karacan
9. Caskey
10. Parkinson
11. Rinomhota
12. Williams
Maybe not.
Nice touch to put Jerry Williams at 12.
There's also players like Gilkes, Beavon and Bowman and I'd put Kevin Bremner in there and Scott Taylor. Osborn was a fantastic player but I feel it needs more than a season at the club to warrant inclusion but no, he wasn't a winger
Taylor was at his best playing wide in a midfield 3 in a system that utilised wing backs. I wouldn't strictly class him as a winger although he could play there.
I would class John Smith as a bit of a fool though
Yep, and McAnuff played some in midfield, but more a winger.
Bit surprised Lawrie Sanchez didn't make the list?
Re: SPECULATION - Danny Williams
Posted: 28 Mar 2019 12:08
by grey_squirrel
Denver Royal wrote:From Despair To Where? wrote:Snowflake Royal wrote:
ROFL.
Kitson, Doyle, Sigurdsson, Kebe, Little, Sidwell, Harper, Gunnarsson, Shaka, Hahnemann, Wdowczyk, Ingimarsson, Convey, Osborn, McAnuff, Long, A Williams, Gooding, S Taylor, Sonko, Harte, Griffin, Leigertwood, Gorkss, Pearce, J Quinn, Murty, Bernal, Cureton, Forster...
I could go on.
I'll concede he might squeek in to a top 10 midfielders if wingers don't count. Didn't see enough of Taylor and Osborn to know whether to count them as wingers or midfielders
1. Sig
2. Sid
3. Harps
4. Gooding
5. Gunnarsson
6. Leigertwood
7. Tabb
8. Karacan
9. Caskey
10. Parkinson
11. Rinomhota
12. Williams
Maybe not.
Nice touch to put Jerry Williams at 12.
There's also players like Gilkes, Beavon and Bowman and I'd put Kevin Bremner in there and Scott Taylor. Osborn was a fantastic player but I feel it needs more than a season at the club to warrant inclusion but no, he wasn't a winger
Taylor was at his best playing wide in a midfield 3 in a system that utilised wing backs. I wouldn't strictly class him as a winger although he could play there.
I would class John Smith as a bit of a fool though
Yep, and McAnuff played some in midfield, but more a winger.
Bit surprised Lawrie Sanchez didn't make the list?
Er, Neil Webb? England International........
Re: SPECULATION - Danny Williams
Posted: 28 Mar 2019 12:12
by under the tin
Denver Royal wrote:From Despair To Where? wrote:Snowflake Royal wrote:
ROFL.
Kitson, Doyle, Sigurdsson, Kebe, Little, Sidwell, Harper, Gunnarsson, Shaka, Hahnemann, Wdowczyk, Ingimarsson, Convey, Osborn, McAnuff, Long, A Williams, Gooding, S Taylor, Sonko, Harte, Griffin, Leigertwood, Gorkss, Pearce, J Quinn, Murty, Bernal, Cureton, Forster...
I could go on.
I'll concede he might squeek in to a top 10 midfielders if wingers don't count. Didn't see enough of Taylor and Osborn to know whether to count them as wingers or midfielders
1. Sig
2. Sid
3. Harps
4. Gooding
5. Gunnarsson
6. Leigertwood
7. Tabb
8. Karacan
9. Caskey
10. Parkinson
11. Rinomhota
12. Williams
Maybe not.
Nice touch to put Jerry Williams at 12.
There's also players like Gilkes, Beavon and Bowman and I'd put Kevin Bremner in there and Scott Taylor. Osborn was a fantastic player but I feel it needs more than a season at the club to warrant inclusion but no, he wasn't a winger
Taylor was at his best playing wide in a midfield 3 in a system that utilised wing backs. I wouldn't strictly class him as a winger although he could play there.
I would class John Smith as a bit of a fool though
Yep, and McAnuff played some in midfield, but more a winger.
Bit surprised Lawrie Sanchez didn't make the list?
Glad someone else remembers the clockwork mouse...
How about Neil Webb?
Re: SPECULATION - Danny Williams
Posted: 28 Mar 2019 12:36
by Snowflake Royal
Only included players I've seen live more than once.
Re: SPECULATION - Danny Williams
Posted: 28 Mar 2019 12:54
by Who Moved The Goalposts?
Snowflake Royal wrote:Only included players I've seen live more than once.
Didn't know they were dead, tbh.
Re: SPECULATION - Danny Williams
Posted: 29 Mar 2019 12:26
by Cape Town Royal
Glad someone mentioned Richie Bowman... every time I saw him play he looked a class above pretty much everyone else on the pitch...
Really good player
Also Webb was absolute class when he broke through into our first team, was such a shame when we sold him to Portsmouth... He just looked like the game was so easy to him... it was no surprise to me that he went onto play for England.
Webb and Gylfi are the two best young midfielders I have seen come through in my time watching Reading by a mile!
Re: SPECULATION - Danny Williams
Posted: 01 Apr 2019 14:51
by John Smith
From Despair To Where? wrote:
I would class John Smith as a bit of a fool though
Anybody who thinks Parkinson had a quarter of the ability of Williams is a fool.
Re: SPECULATION - Danny Williams
Posted: 01 Apr 2019 15:25
by Snowflake Royal
Ability is immaterial really. Parky nay not have been technically brilliant, but he performed the role he was in the team for perfectly.
I'd argue he's the most effective defensive midfielder I've seen for us. Maybe pipped by Leigertwood.
Re: SPECULATION - Danny Williams
Posted: 01 Apr 2019 16:07
by John Smith
Snowflake Royal wrote:Ability is immaterial really. Parky nay not have been technically brilliant, but he performed the role he was in the team for perfectly.
I'd argue he's the most effective defensive midfielder I've seen for us. Maybe pipped by Leigertwood.
I have to disagree. I have spoken to former teamates of his who have, and I quote, refer to him as "shit".
Anyone who thinks of him as being anything more than a cult hero is a nostalgic dreamer. We were a Div 2 team back then. Williams is Premier League quality.
Re: SPECULATION - Danny Williams
Posted: 01 Apr 2019 16:42
by From Despair To Where?
John Smith wrote:From Despair To Where? wrote:
I would class John Smith as a bit of a fool though
Anybody who thinks Parkinson had a quarter of the ability of Williams is a fool.
It's not about ability, it's about what they bring to the team.
If you'd said that technically, Williams was in the top ten all time, you may have had an case but even that is debateable.
Parkinson played in the heart of one of our most technically gifted teams under McGhee.
Re: SPECULATION - Danny Williams
Posted: 01 Apr 2019 17:20
by Snowflake Royal
John Smith wrote:Snowflake Royal wrote:Ability is immaterial really. Parky nay not have been technically brilliant, but he performed the role he was in the team for perfectly.
I'd argue he's the most effective defensive midfielder I've seen for us. Maybe pipped by Leigertwood.
I have to disagree. I have spoken to former teamates of his who have, and I quote, refer to him as "shit".
Anyone who thinks of him as being anything more than a cult hero is a nostalgic dreamer. We were a Div 2 team back then. Williams is Premier League quality.
Footballers are often thick as pig shite and I don't believe a word you say.
Your judgement is terrible too given you think Williams is one of our ten best ever players.
Parky played several Division One seasons FYI.
Re: SPECULATION - Danny Williams
Posted: 01 Apr 2019 18:51
by Denver Royal
John Smith wrote:I have spoken to former teamates of Parky who have, and I quote, refer to him as "shit".
These players that you've spoken with, were they 'better' than Parky? Did they play in more games than him?
I suppose they could still voice their opinions regardless, but just curious.
Re: SPECULATION - Danny Williams
Posted: 01 Apr 2019 19:41
by Mid Sussex Royal
Snowflake Royal wrote:John Smith wrote:Maneki Neko wrote:
"one of" is pretty vague
how many are in your list of best players, total?
Top 10
ROFL.
Kitson, Doyle, Sigurdsson, Kebe, Little, Sidwell, Harper, Gunnarsson, Shaka, Hahnemann, Wdowczyk, Ingimarsson, Convey, Osborn, McAnuff, Long, A Williams, Gooding, S Taylor, Sonko, Harte, Griffin, Leigertwood, Gorkss, Pearce, J Quinn, Murty, Bernal, Cureton, Forster...
I could go on.
I'll concede he might squeek in to a top 10 midfielders if wingers don't count. Didn't see enough of Taylor and Osborn to know whether to count them as wingers or midfielders
1. Sig
2. Sid
3. Harps
4. Gooding
5. Gunnarsson
6. Leigertwood
7. Tabb
8. Karacan
9. Caskey
10. Parkinson
11. Rinomhota
12. Williams
Maybe not.
Jay Tabb? Are you having a laugh? From what I remember in the few games he played he ran around like a headless chicken for 90 mins
Re: SPECULATION - Danny Williams
Posted: 01 Apr 2019 20:01
by AthleticoSpizz
...and yet was one of the few worthy players of pitch-side time before his release in our Prem relegation season nightmare.
Re: SPECULATION - Danny Williams
Posted: 01 Apr 2019 20:50
by Mr Optimist
Some 90s memories...
Kevin Dillon, Tom Jones
...and a player that divided opinion, Marek Matejovski
And who can forget Andy Hughes, Lesley Taylor and Karl Elsey
Re: SPECULATION - Danny Williams
Posted: 01 Apr 2019 23:32
by URZZZZ
John Smith wrote:Snowflake Royal wrote:Ability is immaterial really. Parky nay not have been technically brilliant, but he performed the role he was in the team for perfectly.
I'd argue he's the most effective defensive midfielder I've seen for us. Maybe pipped by Leigertwood.
I have to disagree. I have spoken to former teamates of his who have, and I quote, refer to him as "shit".
Anyone who thinks of him as being anything more than a cult hero is a nostalgic dreamer. We were a Div 2 team back then. Williams is Premier League quality.
Danny Williams is not a Premier League quality player (unless the game so happened to be televised). What a load of garbage. He's an average to good championship player but certainly no more
Re: SPECULATION - Danny Williams
Posted: 02 Apr 2019 07:24
by Old Man Andrews
Re: SPECULATION - Danny Williams
Posted: 02 Apr 2019 07:26
by Snowflake Royal
He's really not.
Re: SPECULATION - Danny Williams
Posted: 02 Apr 2019 07:31
by Old Man Andrews
Snowflake Royal wrote:He's really not.
You're in a world you know nothing about Ian. Judging a footballers ability is something you actually need to be trained to do and have experience in. Helps if you have multiple qualifications in that field too, kinda like I have. Back down.
Re: SPECULATION - Danny Williams
Posted: 02 Apr 2019 09:09
by Platypuss
Mr Optimist wrote:And who can forget Andy Hughes, Lesley Taylor and Karl Elsey
Wish I could.
