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Re: Speculation - loans from the Premier League

Posted: 30 Jul 2020 13:51
by Nameless
WoodleyRoyal wrote:
Nameless wrote:
WoodleyRoyal wrote:
first time round yeh on the very cusp of what could be classed as an up and comer, jeez its not hard is it, or are you just a bit thick, not twisting anything to make my point im posting FACTS. :roll:
Your assessment of whether a player was a success or not is not a ‘fact’.
success
noun
the accomplishment of an aim or purpose.

none of the list fulfilled their purpose...
In your opinion. Ake won MOTM and played at Wembley.
How do you know what the ‘purpose’ of each player was ? Were some simply to bolster squad depth and give us better cover for injury ? Were we offered a fee to take some of them as a development exercise (in which case we made the money and their parent club missed out on the development ? Did any get injured while they were here ? Did we change manager mid loan ? Were any rubbish, then had a birthday and turned 23 so stopped being in clouded ? Were some taken on a trial basis before buying, in which case them not being a success meantbthe trial loan was a good thing and saved us money and a long term deal

Re: Speculation - loans from the Premier League

Posted: 30 Jul 2020 14:00
by WoodleyRoyal
you're just not very bright that's your problem, and you talk too much.

Re: Speculation - loans from the Premier League

Posted: 30 Jul 2020 14:05
by Nameless
WoodleyRoyal wrote:you're just not very bright that's your problem, and you talk too much.

And the irony meter has gone off the scale.....

Re: Speculation - loans from the Premier League

Posted: 30 Jul 2020 14:28
by linkenholtroyal
WoodleyRoyal wrote:you're just not very bright that's your problem, and you talk too much.
"My Dads bigger than your Dad" "No My Dads bigger than your Dad" its like listening to my 8yr old lad with his friends.

Re: Speculation - loans from the Premier League

Posted: 30 Jul 2020 14:41
by Royal Ginger
Your 8yr old’s friend’s Dad IS bigger than you though...just sayin.

Re: Speculation - loans from the Premier League

Posted: 30 Jul 2020 15:30
by Snowflake Royal
Nameless wrote:
WoodleyRoyal wrote:and in fact, miazga has just turned 25 so can't be on the list either :| ... i think we are scraping the barrel if we are including players who made only 5 appearances for the club as a successful signing, each to their own. So yep sticking by my original post. SCIAG...? I'm waiting for an apology
So Miazaga was 23 when we signed him, you really are desperate to twist things tosuit you point of view !
It's really quite impressive.

Can it only be a successful loan signing if it was made on a full moon Woodley?

Re: Speculation - loans from the Premier League

Posted: 30 Jul 2020 15:38
by Snowflake Royal
To summarise,

To count in this assessment:
1) Up and comes have to be 23 or under for the majority of their loan

2) Play lots of games regardless of the reason of their loan or role at the club

3) Be assigned as success or failure specifically by Woodley

4) come from a PL club, unless Woodley decides to include a different club like Celtic

Does that about cover it?

Re: Speculation - loans from the Premier League

Posted: 30 Jul 2020 16:07
by tidus_mi2
He's allowed to include the over 23 years old Kwesi Appiah as a failure but he removes the over 23 years old Lewis Baker and Michael Miazga from the successes.

Re: Speculation - loans from the Premier League

Posted: 30 Jul 2020 18:37
by Nameless
tidus_mi2 wrote:He's allowed to include the over 23 years old Kwesi Appiah as a failure but he removes the over 23 years old Lewis Baker and Michael Miazga from the successes.

Can I Add Jadon Sancho and Mbape to the list of successes.
Ok they never actually played for us butI’m not sure how important that is as they meet all the other criteria

Re: Speculation - loans from the Premier League

Posted: 30 Jul 2020 20:38
by linkenholtroyal
Royal Ginger wrote:Your 8yr old’s friend’s Dad IS bigger than you though...just sayin.
Yer but my Dick is bigger so all is fine

Re: Speculation - loans from the Premier League

Posted: 31 Jul 2020 07:06
by LightwaterRoyal
tidus_mi2 wrote:He's allowed to include the over 23 years old Kwesi Appiah as a failure but he removes the over 23 years old Lewis Baker and Michael Miazga from the successes.
Add to that Zurab Khizanishvilli, Andy Griffin, Mikele Leigertwood, Pele, Nelson Oliveira and Emiliano Martinez

Re: Speculation - loans from the Premier League

Posted: 31 Jul 2020 09:37
by tidus_mi2
LightwaterRoyal wrote:
tidus_mi2 wrote:He's allowed to include the over 23 years old Kwesi Appiah as a failure but he removes the over 23 years old Lewis Baker and Michael Miazga from the successes.
Add to that Zurab Khizanishvilli, Andy Griffin, Mikele Leigertwood, Pele, Nelson Oliveira and Emiliano Martinez
He'd probably sooner remove Appiah from the failures rather than allow there to be another 6 successes :lol:

Re: Speculation - loans from the Premier League

Posted: 31 Jul 2020 12:36
by Snowflake Royal
tidus_mi2 wrote:
LightwaterRoyal wrote:
tidus_mi2 wrote:He's allowed to include the over 23 years old Kwesi Appiah as a failure but he removes the over 23 years old Lewis Baker and Michael Miazga from the successes.
Add to that Zurab Khizanishvilli, Andy Griffin, Mikele Leigertwood, Pele, Nelson Oliveira and Emiliano Martinez
He'd probably sooner remove Appiah from the failures rather than allow there to be another 6 successes :lol:
Nah he could just put them in the failures

Zurab and Griffin - PO final performance
Pele - didn't play enough, we finished poorly and midtable
Oliveira - injury prone
Leigertwood - started poorly and only came good when perm, plus not good enough for the PL

Martinez might be a challenge even for Woodley

Re: Speculation - loans from the Premier League

Posted: 04 Aug 2020 15:22
by JimmytheJim
Snowflake Royal wrote:
tidus_mi2 wrote:
LightwaterRoyal wrote:
Add to that Zurab Khizanishvilli, Andy Griffin, Mikele Leigertwood, Pele, Nelson Oliveira and Emiliano Martinez
He'd probably sooner remove Appiah from the failures rather than allow there to be another 6 successes :lol:
Nah he could just put them in the failures

Zurab and Griffin - PO final performance
Pele - didn't play enough, we finished poorly and midtable
Oliveira - injury prone
Leigertwood - started poorly and only came good when perm, plus not good enough for the PL

Martinez might be a challenge even for Woodley
You're a caricature.

Re: Speculation - loans from the Premier League

Posted: 04 Aug 2020 17:03
by Snowflake Royal
JimmytheJim wrote:
Snowflake Royal wrote:
tidus_mi2 wrote: He'd probably sooner remove Appiah from the failures rather than allow there to be another 6 successes :lol:
Nah he could just put them in the failures

Zurab and Griffin - PO final performance
Pele - didn't play enough, we finished poorly and midtable
Oliveira - injury prone
Leigertwood - started poorly and only came good when perm, plus not good enough for the PL

Martinez might be a challenge even for Woodley
You're a caricature.
:?:

Think you might be on for a whoosh.

Re: Speculation - loans from the Premier League

Posted: 04 Aug 2020 17:15
by SouthDownsRoyal
You only get a whoosh with a wotsit

Re: Speculation - loans from the Premier League

Posted: 05 Aug 2020 11:00
by WestYorksRoyal
WestYorksRoyal wrote:From what I understand, Fulham are front runners for Skipp loan. However, Spurs would rather loan him to the Championship and see him get 40+ games under his belt, which is very unlikely if Fulham go up. So if Fulham go up, we have a chance but even then we'd be one of many options. Don't hold your breath; I still want to see Fulham fluff the playoffs.
So, maybe time to start thinking about this one a bit more.

Re: Speculation - loans from the Premier League

Posted: 05 Aug 2020 13:59
by JimmytheJim
Snowflake Royal wrote:
JimmytheJim wrote:
Snowflake Royal wrote: Nah he could just put them in the failures

Zurab and Griffin - PO final performance
Pele - didn't play enough, we finished poorly and midtable
Oliveira - injury prone
Leigertwood - started poorly and only came good when perm, plus not good enough for the PL

Martinez might be a challenge even for Woodley
You're a caricature.
:?:

Think you might be on for a whoosh.
God dammit.

Re: Speculation - loans from the Premier League

Posted: 05 Aug 2020 14:51
by Snowflake Royal
JimmytheJim wrote:
Snowflake Royal wrote:
JimmytheJim wrote:
You're a caricature.
:?:

Think you might be on for a whoosh.
God dammit.
:lol: well it's made me chuckle at least, so not a total loss and no harm done.

Re: Speculation - loans from the Premier League

Posted: 12 Aug 2020 23:14
by TiagoIlori
Fella from twitter who seems to be semi itk has suggested we’re interested in Trevoh Chalobah but we will he waiting until the end of the window so we can get better deals for premier league loanees.