He wasn’t charged with anything. He was just arrested.Stranded wrote:Unaware of what he was actually charged of, I still think that no club in England would sign him as there will, rightly or wrongly be a stigma attached to him.
He will be seen as in the same league as say Adam Johnson, and will simply be unemployable here. If he even resumes his career, I imagine it will be in another European league (or even further afield) - Saudi for example.
Whilst I would have little issue in theory just one look at social media and just Reading FC social media has our own fans already calling him paedo etc. If fans of the club he came through at have that level of animosity toward him (however small that group is) despite him never having been charged - then I'm not sure he plays again in England.SCIAG wrote:He wasn’t charged with anything. He was just arrested.Stranded wrote:Unaware of what he was actually charged of, I still think that no club in England would sign him as there will, rightly or wrongly be a stigma attached to him.
He will be seen as in the same league as say Adam Johnson, and will simply be unemployable here. If he even resumes his career, I imagine it will be in another European league (or even further afield) - Saudi for example.
The likes of Bissouma, Partey, and Evans are all currently playing in England. Bissouma is the most comparable, no public evidence and all charges dropped, playing for Spurs without a peep. Graham Stack had a rape charge hanging over him for most of his Reading career.
Don’t think this is as bad as Johnson, who went to prison, or Greenwood, who should have. Obviously Partey and Evans still playing despite their actions is a case of “two wrongs don’t make a right”, but it shows that there isn’t necessarily a public backlash.
If it's good enough for Woking_Royal it's good enough for me.Sebastian the Red wrote:The CPS have specifically stated that the evidence they have managed to accrue over the last two years does not meet their threshold.
Their threshold is "balance of probabilities", or "is it more likely than not". They do not have to get to the criminal standard for a charging decision.
So in other words, the CPS and police couldn't even get to a 50% chance of a crime being committed.
Which is incredibly rare in a criminal investigation.
Morons might hold the fact that he was investigated against him. Anyone with a mind capable of critical thought would have him back in a heartbeat if he's still up to standard.
Genuine question, is it 51% of a crime having been commited or 51% of their being a realistic chance of proving a crime has been commited and securing a conviction, because those feel like similar but importantly different things.Sebastian the Red wrote:The CPS have specifically stated that the evidence they have managed to accrue over the last two years does not meet their threshold.
Their threshold is "balance of probabilities", or "is it more likely than not". They do not have to get to the criminal standard for a charging decision.
So in other words, the CPS and police couldn't even get to a 50% chance of a crime being committed.
Which is incredibly rare in a criminal investigation.
Morons might hold the fact that he was investigated against him. Anyone with a mind capable of critical thought would have him back in a heartbeat if he's still up to standard.
In reality they’re the same thing. They can only say that there is a 51% chance of a crime having been committed if they have the evidence to back it up. And if they have that evidence then it’s a 51% chance of proving it.Snowflake Royal wrote:Genuine question, is it 51% of a crime having been commited or 51% of their being a realistic chance of proving a crime has been commited and securing a conviction, because those feel like similar but importantly different things.Sebastian the Red wrote:The CPS have specifically stated that the evidence they have managed to accrue over the last two years does not meet their threshold.
Their threshold is "balance of probabilities", or "is it more likely than not". They do not have to get to the criminal standard for a charging decision.
So in other words, the CPS and police couldn't even get to a 50% chance of a crime being committed.
Which is incredibly rare in a criminal investigation.
Morons might hold the fact that he was investigated against him. Anyone with a mind capable of critical thought would have him back in a heartbeat if he's still up to standard.
Thanks Seb, nice and clear.Sebastian the Red wrote:In reality they’re the same thing. They can only say that there is a 51% chance of a crime having been committed if they have the evidence to back it up. And if they have that evidence then it’s a 51% chance of proving it.Snowflake Royal wrote:Genuine question, is it 51% of a crime having been commited or 51% of their being a realistic chance of proving a crime has been commited and securing a conviction, because those feel like similar but importantly different things.Sebastian the Red wrote:The CPS have specifically stated that the evidence they have managed to accrue over the last two years does not meet their threshold.
Their threshold is "balance of probabilities", or "is it more likely than not". They do not have to get to the criminal standard for a charging decision.
So in other words, the CPS and police couldn't even get to a 50% chance of a crime being committed.
Which is incredibly rare in a criminal investigation.
Morons might hold the fact that he was investigated against him. Anyone with a mind capable of critical thought would have him back in a heartbeat if he's still up to standard.
It’s a subjective test in reality, prosecutors ask themselves “with the evidence we have is it more likely than not that we can prove this”. Some think they have hunches that the crime was definitely committed or whatever but if they don’t have evidence that hunch is based on absolutely nothing.
They err on the side of caution, especially in sex cases, as victims rights groups get a bit worked up.
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