Will Ejaria resurrect before we find a buyer?

Will Ejaria resurrect before a takeover?

Ejaria will resurrect first
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A takeover will happen first
15
52%
Ejaria will resurrect the very day of the takeover
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10%
Ejaria will resurrect on takeover day but freak out the new owner who will promptly leave
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3%
Ian Royal will takeover
4
14%
Ian Royal will resurrect Ejaria only to kill him again himself
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21%
 
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Re: Will Ejaria resurrect before we find a buyer?

by Elm Park Kid » 24 Nov 2023 10:02

Once there's an independent regulator maybe they can introduce a standard contract template that stops this crap. If you're not demonstrating commitment to the team then you can be fired. Same as any other job.

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Re: Will Ejaria resurrect before we find a buyer?

by rabidbee » 24 Nov 2023 10:04

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Lower West Ejaria needs a fresh start. Be gone when his contract expires. Meanwhile he can continue to pick up his large paycheck every month.


Meanwhile in the real world if you are not performing you get a couple of verbal warnings then a final written then you are gone.

But staff don't usually appear on a company's balance sheet as assets.

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Re: Will Ejaria resurrect before we find a buyer?

by Mid Sussex Royal » 24 Nov 2023 10:38

Winston Biscuit Maybe there is just more to it than people know about


Maybe, but issues with three managers in a row now.

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Re: Will Ejaria resurrect before we find a buyer?

by Winston Biscuit » 24 Nov 2023 10:40

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Winston Biscuit Maybe there is just more to it than people know about


Maybe, but issues with three managers in a row now.


maybe there is something a bit more personal going on, rather than it being with the managers

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Re: Will Ejaria resurrect before we find a buyer?

by WestYorksRoyal » 24 Nov 2023 10:49

Elm Park Kid Once there's an independent regulator maybe they can introduce a standard contract template that stops this crap. If you're not demonstrating commitment to the team then you can be fired. Same as any other job.

Tbf in most jobs firing somebody is a very long and difficult process which often involves a payout to skip all the HR procedure. Pretty sure he'd still be here if football was "normal".


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Re: Will Ejaria resurrect before we find a buyer?

by Sutekh » 24 Nov 2023 11:08

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Elm Park Kid Once there's an independent regulator maybe they can introduce a standard contract template that stops this crap. If you're not demonstrating commitment to the team then you can be fired. Same as any other job.

Tbf in most jobs firing somebody is a very long and difficult process which often involves a payout to skip all the HR procedure. Pretty sure he'd still be here if football was "normal".


No one knows what the issues are beyond tw@tter speculation. Might be the player, might be the manager, might be the club, might be a bit of all three.

Given our take on the management over the past couple of years it’s not beyond the realms of possibility he just hasn’t been “a fan”. He’s gone next summer anyway so it’s in his interest to become all “sweetness and light” with the management in the meantime. Anticipating a new owner will mean another clean slate heading his way.

However, at the end of the day, bet it is all simply down to another payment to Liverpool becoming due…

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Re: Will Ejaria resurrect before we find a buyer?

by Hendo » 24 Nov 2023 11:46

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Elm Park Kid Once there's an independent regulator maybe they can introduce a standard contract template that stops this crap. If you're not demonstrating commitment to the team then you can be fired. Same as any other job.

Tbf in most jobs firing somebody is a very long and difficult process which often involves a payout to skip all the HR procedure. Pretty sure he'd still be here if football was "normal".


No one knows what the issues are beyond tw@tter speculation. Might be the player, might be the manager, might be the club, might be a bit of all three.

Given our take on the management over the past couple of years it’s not beyond the realms of possibility he just hasn’t been “a fan”. He’s gone next summer anyway so it’s in his interest to become all “sweetness and light” with the management in the meantime. Anticipating a new owner will mean another clean slate heading his way.

However, at the end of the day, bet it is all simply down to another payment to Liverpool becoming due…


It isn't.

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Re: Will Ejaria resurrect before we find a buyer?

by SouthDownsRoyal » 24 Nov 2023 11:54

Winston Biscuit Maybe there is just more to it than people know about


Hi Ovie!

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Re: Will Ejaria resurrect before we find a buyer?

by Elm Park Kid » 24 Nov 2023 12:30

I agree we don't know what's going on. But EFL clubs at least should have standard break clauses in contracts that say if you, for example, don't start a single first team/U23 game in a calendar year then you can be released from your contract with a standard payout. If it's for medical reasons then there is an independent assessment to see if that's the case.


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Re: Will Ejaria resurrect before we find a buyer?

by Snowflake Royal » 24 Nov 2023 12:41

Elm Park Kid I agree we don't know what's going on. But EFL clubs at least should have standard break clauses in contracts that say if you, for example, don't start a single first team/U23 game in a calendar year then you can be released from your contract with a standard payout. If it's for medical reasons then there is an independent assessment to see if that's the case.

Sounds like a dreadful idea.

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Re: Will Ejaria resurrect before we find a buyer?

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 24 Nov 2023 12:56

Elm Park Kid I agree we don't know what's going on. But EFL clubs at least should have standard break clauses in contracts that say if you, for example, don't start a single first team/U23 game in a calendar year then you can be released from your contract with a standard payout. If it's for medical reasons then there is an independent assessment to see if that's the case.


By standard payout I assume you mean a fixed fee for the player and agent?

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Re: Will Ejaria resurrect before we find a buyer?

by Elm Park Kid » 24 Nov 2023 15:02

I mean:

Say a player signs a 5 year contract but in their second season something just goes wrong where they're no longer performing. Maybe they're out drinking too much, or getting involved with dodgy (but not illegal) stuff . . . or maybe their form just generally goes down the toilet.

The manager benches them for a while, puts them in the reserves, but after 3 months there's no improvement.

I don't think it's unreasonable that there be a system where the club can then say to the player "Look, if things don't improve enough in the next 9 months that you start playing for us again you'll be let go". And then if we get to that point they get a 3 month payout.

The player basically has a one year notice that their contract will end if they don't sort themselves out. That seems reasonable and fair to me.

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Re: Will Ejaria resurrect before we find a buyer?

by Winston Biscuit » 24 Nov 2023 15:19

Elm Park Kid I mean:

Say a player signs a 5 year contract but in their second season something just goes wrong where they're no longer performing. Maybe they're out drinking too much, or getting involved with dodgy (but not illegal) stuff . . . or maybe their form just generally goes down the toilet.

The manager benches them for a while, puts them in the reserves, but after 3 months there's no improvement.

I don't think it's unreasonable that there be a system where the club can then say to the player "Look, if things don't improve enough in the next 9 months that you start playing for us again you'll be let go". And then if we get to that point they get a 3 month payout.

The player basically has a one year notice that their contract will end if they don't sort themselves out. That seems reasonable and fair to me.


FIFA regulation On The Status & Transfer Of Players Clause 14 already says a footballers contract can be terminated by either party when there is 'just cause'. On the player that would usually mean bad public behaviour, getting arrested etc, and on the club that is usually not paying wages. But talking in general terms here and not about OE, if a player turns up to work and does what their told, but is way below standard and never gets in the first team, then they have still fulfilled their contractual obligations.

There is a Sporting Just Cause clause, but it can only be activated by the player to get out of their contract early,


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Re: Will Ejaria resurrect before we find a buyer?

by Forbury Lion » 24 Nov 2023 15:24

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Lower West Ejaria needs a fresh start. Be gone when his contract expires. Meanwhile he can continue to pick up his large paycheck every month.


Meanwhile in the real world if you are not performing you get a couple of verbal warnings then a final written then you are gone.

But staff don't usually appear on a company's balance sheet as assets.
Can be part of the goodwill held on the balance sheet when you buy a company which has assets of say £100m but is worth £120m because of the value the employees bring to the table, examples being a software company which employs all the best software engineers in the world.
You're basically paying £20m more than the assets of the company for the intangible assets like employee skill.

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