Potential New Owners

[Clyde1998]

And we made it work under Madjeski.

Kitson, Doyle, Siggy, Long....

Yeah I think the only problem is timeframes, when people say "sustainable", how long do they expect that to last? That's the only thing I'd say.

How much money has the Brentford owner put in? In their build up to promotion, it felt like they brought in big transfer fees to finance the squad every season.

They did spend big transfer fees, but that was more than made up by selling at least one player for a big fee each season:

(Figures from TransferMarkt)
2014-15 - Spent £5.6m; Sold £3.8m; Net -£1.8m; Biggest sale - Adam Forshaw (£3.8m to Wigan)
2015-16 - Spent £10.4m; Sold £25.5m; Net +£15.1m; Biggest sale - Andre Gray (£12.4m to Burnley)
2016-17 - Spent £5.2m; Sold £14.4m; Net +£9.3m; Biggest sale - Scott Hogan (£10.5m to Aston Villa)
2017-18 - Spent £11.3m; Sold £15.2m; Net +£3.9m; Biggest sale - Jota Peleteiro (£6.5m to Birmingham)
2018-19 - Spent £6.6m; Sold £35.0m; Net +£28.4m; Biggest sale - Chris Mepham (£13.6m to Bournemouth)
2019-20 - Spent £34.7m; Sold £34.3m; Net -£0.4m; Biggest sale - Neal Maupay (£15.6m to Brighton)
2020-21 - Spent £7.3m; Sold £62.0m; Net +£54.7m; Biggest sale - Ollie Watkins (£34m to Aston Villa)

Basically they were doing what we did in the late-Madejski era.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Yeah I think the only problem is timeframes, when people say "sustainable", how long do they expect that to last? That's the only thing I'd say.

How much money has the Brentford owner put in? In their build up to promotion, it felt like they brought in big transfer fees to finance the squad every season.

They did spend big transfer fees, but that was more than made up by selling at least one player for a big fee each season:

(Figures from TransferMarkt)
2014-15 - Spent £5.6m; Sold £3.8m; Net -£1.8m; Biggest sale - Adam Forshaw (£3.8m to Wigan)
2015-16 - Spent £10.4m; Sold £25.5m; Net +£15.1m; Biggest sale - Andre Gray (£12.4m to Burnley)
2016-17 - Spent £5.2m; Sold £14.4m; Net +£9.3m; Biggest sale - Scott Hogan (£10.5m to Aston Villa)
2017-18 - Spent £11.3m; Sold £15.2m; Net +£3.9m; Biggest sale - Jota Peleteiro (£6.5m to Birmingham)
2018-19 - Spent £6.6m; Sold £35.0m; Net +£28.4m; Biggest sale - Chris Mepham (£13.6m to Bournemouth)
2019-20 - Spent £34.7m; Sold £34.3m; Net -£0.4m; Biggest sale - Neal Maupay (£15.6m to Brighton)
2020-21 - Spent £7.3m; Sold £62.0m; Net +£54.7m; Biggest sale - Ollie Watkins (£34m to Aston Villa)

Basically they were doing what we did in the late-Madejski era.

Those sales are what fuelled in for them and it's where we have fallen on the wrong side significantly under Dai. The season we had a wages-turnover ratio of over 200%, I believe they were second in the table at like 180%. It was obviously taken at a moment in time, but of course selling players for £35m for two seasons were always going to get them through the FFP issues.

I have always questioned whether that model is "sustainable" though, consistently selling players on for big fees.

[WestYorksRoyal]

How much money has the Brentford owner put in? In their build up to promotion, it felt like they brought in big transfer fees to finance the squad every season.

They did spend big transfer fees, but that was more than made up by selling at least one player for a big fee each season:

(Figures from TransferMarkt)
2014-15 - Spent £5.6m; Sold £3.8m; Net -£1.8m; Biggest sale - Adam Forshaw (£3.8m to Wigan)
2015-16 - Spent £10.4m; Sold £25.5m; Net +£15.1m; Biggest sale - Andre Gray (£12.4m to Burnley)
2016-17 - Spent £5.2m; Sold £14.4m; Net +£9.3m; Biggest sale - Scott Hogan (£10.5m to Aston Villa)
2017-18 - Spent £11.3m; Sold £15.2m; Net +£3.9m; Biggest sale - Jota Peleteiro (£6.5m to Birmingham)
2018-19 - Spent £6.6m; Sold £35.0m; Net +£28.4m; Biggest sale - Chris Mepham (£13.6m to Bournemouth)
2019-20 - Spent £34.7m; Sold £34.3m; Net -£0.4m; Biggest sale - Neal Maupay (£15.6m to Brighton)
2020-21 - Spent £7.3m; Sold £62.0m; Net +£54.7m; Biggest sale - Ollie Watkins (£34m to Aston Villa)

Basically they were doing what we did in the late-Madejski era.

Those sales are what fuelled in for them and it's where we have fallen on the wrong side significantly under Dai. The season we had a wages-turnover ratio of over 200%, I believe they were second in the table at like 180%. It was obviously taken at a moment in time, but of course selling players for £35m for two seasons were always going to get them through the FFP issues.

I have always questioned whether that model is "sustainable" though, consistently selling players on for big fees.

It's semi sustainable if you continue recruiting well, and you have contingency plans in the event that you go a couple of years without a big sale.

[Sutekh]

They did spend big transfer fees, but that was more than made up by selling at least one player for a big fee each season:

(Figures from TransferMarkt)
2014-15 - Spent £5.6m; Sold £3.8m; Net -£1.8m; Biggest sale - Adam Forshaw (£3.8m to Wigan)
2015-16 - Spent £10.4m; Sold £25.5m; Net +£15.1m; Biggest sale - Andre Gray (£12.4m to Burnley)
2016-17 - Spent £5.2m; Sold £14.4m; Net +£9.3m; Biggest sale - Scott Hogan (£10.5m to Aston Villa)
2017-18 - Spent £11.3m; Sold £15.2m; Net +£3.9m; Biggest sale - Jota Peleteiro (£6.5m to Birmingham)
2018-19 - Spent £6.6m; Sold £35.0m; Net +£28.4m; Biggest sale - Chris Mepham (£13.6m to Bournemouth)
2019-20 - Spent £34.7m; Sold £34.3m; Net -£0.4m; Biggest sale - Neal Maupay (£15.6m to Brighton)
2020-21 - Spent £7.3m; Sold £62.0m; Net +£54.7m; Biggest sale - Ollie Watkins (£34m to Aston Villa)

Basically they were doing what we did in the late-Madejski era.

Those sales are what fuelled in for them and it's where we have fallen on the wrong side significantly under Dai. The season we had a wages-turnover ratio of over 200%, I believe they were second in the table at like 180%. It was obviously taken at a moment in time, but of course selling players for £35m for two seasons were always going to get them through the FFP issues.

I have always questioned whether that model is "sustainable" though, consistently selling players on for big fees.

It's semi sustainable if you continue recruiting well, and you have contingency plans in the event that you go a couple of years without a big sale.

Two most important things Reading completely failed at that scuppered any chance of being even semi-sustainable; 1 - appalling signings complemented by 2 - a succession of idiot managerial appointments thus reducing whatever hope there may have been to even build something out of what there was however poor it may have been.

[The Cap]

Those sales are what fuelled in for them and it's where we have fallen on the wrong side significantly under Dai. The season we had a wages-turnover ratio of over 200%, I believe they were second in the table at like 180%. It was obviously taken at a moment in time, but of course selling players for £35m for two seasons were always going to get them through the FFP issues.

I have always questioned whether that model is "sustainable" though, consistently selling players on for big fees.

It's semi sustainable if you continue recruiting well, and you have contingency plans in the event that you go a couple of years without a big sale.

Two most important things Reading completely failed at that scuppered any chance of being even semi-sustainable; 1 - appalling signings complemented by 2 - a succession of idiot managerial appointments thus reducing whatever hope there may have been to even build something out of what there was however poor it may have been.

Additionally let's not forget, and I haven't seen it mentioned elsewhere, the part that Ron Gormless played in the demise. P45'd a lot of the background staff who were an integral part of the 'Reading way'. As well as throwing inflated contracts around like confetti. Yeah, cheers for that Ronald.

[Stranded]

Interesting* titbit from that there Twitter from last night.

A Shrewbury Town Podcast posted that they were aware of a Scandinavian consortium, which includes a number of "ultra high net worth individuals" who have been looking to purchase a L1 club to "invest heavily into". This consortium decided to move on from interest in Shrewsbury Town and focus attention on another option.

Not saying we are that option but worth an idle post on a UR&G thread.

[SouthDownsRoyal]

Interesting* titbit from that there Twitter from last night.

A Shrewbury Town Podcast posted that they were aware of a Scandinavian consortium, which includes a number of "ultra high net worth individuals" who have been looking to purchase a L1 club to "invest heavily into". This consortium decided to move on from interest in Shrewsbury Town and focus attention on another option.

Not saying we are that option but worth an idle post on a UR&G thread.

Ooooo Rich scandi owners yes please

[WestYorksRoyal]

Interesting* titbit from that there Twitter from last night.

A Shrewbury Town Podcast posted that they were aware of a Scandinavian consortium, which includes a number of "ultra high net worth individuals" who have been looking to purchase a L1 club to "invest heavily into". This consortium decided to move on from interest in Shrewsbury Town and focus attention on another option.

Not saying we are that option but worth an idle post on a UR&G thread.

Ooooo Rich scandi owners yes please

Please please please please please

[blythspartan]

Interesting* titbit from that there Twitter from last night.

A Shrewbury Town Podcast posted that they were aware of a Scandinavian consortium, which includes a number of "ultra high net worth individuals" who have been looking to purchase a L1 club to "invest heavily into". This consortium decided to move on from interest in Shrewsbury Town and focus attention on another option.

Not saying we are that option but worth an idle post on a UR&G thread.

Ooooo Rich scandi owners yes please

Please please please please please

+ 1 Funnily enough, I was chatting to I think some Norwegian guys when I was having a meal in the Cilantro restaurant at the Voco Reading hotel a short while ago. We were chatting about Haaland and all things football. They were nice fellas and gave us a couple of bottles of wine.

[The Royal Forester]

Interesting* titbit from that there Twitter from last night.

A Shrewbury Town Podcast posted that they were aware of a Scandinavian consortium, which includes a number of "ultra high net worth individuals" who have been looking to purchase a L1 club to "invest heavily into". This consortium decided to move on from interest in Shrewsbury Town and focus attention on another option.

Not saying we are that option but worth an idle post on a UR&G thread.

Ooooo Rich scandi owners yes please

Be even better if a certain couple of Icelandic heroes were involved. After all, Iceland is part of Denmark.

[Sutekh]

Interesting* titbit from that there Twitter from last night.

A Shrewbury Town Podcast posted that they were aware of a Scandinavian consortium, which includes a number of "ultra high net worth individuals" who have been looking to purchase a L1 club to "invest heavily into". This consortium decided to move on from interest in Shrewsbury Town and focus attention on another option.

Not saying we are that option but worth an idle post on a UR&G thread.

Ooooo Rich scandi owners yes please

Be even better if a certain couple of Icelandic heroes were involved. After all, Iceland is part of Denmark.

I thought it was part of Budgen for some reason.

[Royal Ginger]

Interesting* titbit from that there Twitter from last night.

A Shrewbury Town Podcast posted that they were aware of a Scandinavian consortium, which includes a number of "ultra high net worth individuals" who have been looking to purchase a L1 club to "invest heavily into". This consortium decided to move on from interest in Shrewsbury Town and focus attention on another option.

Not saying we are that option but worth an idle post on a UR&G thread.

Ooooo Rich scandi owners yes please

Be even better if a certain couple of Icelandic heroes were involved. After all, Iceland is part of Denmark.

*not sure if serious.gif*

[rabidbee]

Ooooo Rich scandi owners yes please

Be even better if a certain couple of Icelandic heroes were involved. After all, Iceland is part of Denmark.

*not sure if serious.gif*

Greenland and Iceland are so easy to mix up.

[JR]

Yeah I think the only problem is timeframes, when people say "sustainable", how long do they expect that to last? That's the only thing I'd say.

How much money has the Brentford owner put in? In their build up to promotion, it felt like they brought in big transfer fees to finance the squad every season.

They did spend big transfer fees, but that was more than made up by selling at least one player for a big fee each season:

(Figures from TransferMarkt)
2014-15 - Spent £5.6m; Sold £3.8m; Net -£1.8m; Biggest sale - Adam Forshaw (£3.8m to Wigan)
2015-16 - Spent £10.4m; Sold £25.5m; Net +£15.1m; Biggest sale - Andre Gray (£12.4m to Burnley)
2016-17 - Spent £5.2m; Sold £14.4m; Net +£9.3m; Biggest sale - Scott Hogan (£10.5m to Aston Villa)
2017-18 - Spent £11.3m; Sold £15.2m; Net +£3.9m; Biggest sale - Jota Peleteiro (£6.5m to Birmingham)
2018-19 - Spent £6.6m; Sold £35.0m; Net +£28.4m; Biggest sale - Chris Mepham (£13.6m to Bournemouth)
2019-20 - Spent £34.7m; Sold £34.3m; Net -£0.4m; Biggest sale - Neal Maupay (£15.6m to Brighton)
2020-21 - Spent £7.3m; Sold £62.0m; Net +£54.7m; Biggest sale - Ollie Watkins (£34m to Aston Villa)

Basically they were doing what we did in the late-Madejski era.

Similar to what we did - nearly all those players never performed consistently at that level again. Quite a skill to make a player look better than they are and sell them at peak value.

[Sutekh]

Yeah I think the only problem is timeframes, when people say "sustainable", how long do they expect that to last? That's the only thing I'd say.

How much money has the Brentford owner put in? In their build up to promotion, it felt like they brought in big transfer fees to finance the squad every season.

They did spend big transfer fees, but that was more than made up by selling at least one player for a big fee each season:

(Figures from TransferMarkt)
2014-15 - Spent £5.6m; Sold £3.8m; Net -£1.8m; Biggest sale - Adam Forshaw (£3.8m to Wigan)
2015-16 - Spent £10.4m; Sold £25.5m; Net +£15.1m; Biggest sale - Andre Gray (£12.4m to Burnley)
2016-17 - Spent £5.2m; Sold £14.4m; Net +£9.3m; Biggest sale - Scott Hogan (£10.5m to Aston Villa)
2017-18 - Spent £11.3m; Sold £15.2m; Net +£3.9m; Biggest sale - Jota Peleteiro (£6.5m to Birmingham)
2018-19 - Spent £6.6m; Sold £35.0m; Net +£28.4m; Biggest sale - Chris Mepham (£13.6m to Bournemouth)
2019-20 - Spent £34.7m; Sold £34.3m; Net -£0.4m; Biggest sale - Neal Maupay (£15.6m to Brighton)
2020-21 - Spent £7.3m; Sold £62.0m; Net +£54.7m; Biggest sale - Ollie Watkins (£34m to Aston Villa)

Basically they were doing what we did in the late-Madejski era.

The difference a decade makes! The £500k paid for Andy Hughes would probably have been nearer £5,000,000

[Snowflake Royal]

Interesting* titbit from that there Twitter from last night.

A Shrewbury Town Podcast posted that they were aware of a Scandinavian consortium, which includes a number of "ultra high net worth individuals" who have been looking to purchase a L1 club to "invest heavily into". This consortium decided to move on from interest in Shrewsbury Town and focus attention on another option.

Not saying we are that option but worth an idle post on a UR&G thread.

Ooooo Rich scandi owners yes please

Be even better if a certain couple of Icelandic heroes were involved. After all, Iceland is part of Denmark.

You're going to have to explain what on Earth you're thinking with this one.

[windermereROYAL]

Ooooo Rich scandi owners yes please

Be even better if a certain couple of Icelandic heroes were involved. After all, Iceland is part of Denmark.

You're going to have to explain what on Earth you're thinking with this one.

I think someone is getting Iceland mixed up with Greenland.

[Snowflake Royal]

Be even better if a certain couple of Icelandic heroes were involved. After all, Iceland is part of Denmark.

You're going to have to explain what on Earth you're thinking with this one.

I think someone is getting Iceland mixed up with Greenland.

Or just very very old and out of touch. Which tbf, is consistent with TRF's previous posting.

But there's more to it than that. Where does Denmark even enter it? The post was about generic scandanavian, which includes Iceland in its own right. Why would Icelandic heroes (one has to assume Gunnarsson and Ingimarsson) be involved in a group of extreme high wealth individuals - they certainly aren't that.

[WestYorksRoyal]

You're going to have to explain what on Earth you're thinking with this one.

I think someone is getting Iceland mixed up with Greenland.

Or just very very old and out of touch. Which tbf, is consistent with TRF's previous posting.

But there's more to it than that. Where does Denmark even enter it? The post was about generic scandanavian, which includes Iceland in its own right. Why would Icelandic heroes (one has to assume Gunnarsson and Ingimarsson) be involved in a group of extreme high wealth individuals - they certainly aren't that.

Nobody has mentioned our Icelandic contingents involvement? I assumed they were entirely separate matters. Imagine though, Bryn backed by billionaires. Can only dream.

[SouthDownsRoyal]

I wi see what bob tensworth thinks