Negativity - Whats Going ON!

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by Henleyensian » 08 Apr 2009 10:59

Don't forget that the play-off against Bolton was the result of our coming second in the league. Forget the fact that we should have gone up by right and look at the facts of that season. If we had not won the last four games of the season while Wolves drew the last four, and our other close rivals, Tranmere, had not lost and/or drawn theirs, we might not have been even in the play-offs. As far as I remember, at this time in the season we were near the top of the league, but not romping away with it. This time, we still have enough games left to do our best and hope that the others slip the way our rivals did then!

We all know how we lost the best members of our squad after the play-off disaster, and how we took years to recover, so let's get behind the team and cheer them to playing confidently and well. Good Friday is a good day to start and set them on the road to winning again, as we know they can.

As far as Mr Coppell is concerned, he will do what he thinks is best, both for the club and for himself, and we have to leave that for events to decide.

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by Dirk Gently » 08 Apr 2009 11:13

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In which case, can it be noted by all that I was saying in the middle of October that this'll be SC's last season?


You may be right but SC has said recently that he's happy to stay at the club but won't discuss any contract until the season is up.


Indeed - but you can't really expect him to say anythig else, though, can you?

Personally, I remain convinced that this is SC's last season with us, regardless of where we finish. And the more I think about it the more convinced I am that that's not necessarily a bad thing, regardless of where we finish.

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Re: Negativity - Whats Going ON!

by Alan Partridge » 08 Apr 2009 11:16

Again as touched on earlier in the season on another thread it also comes down to how the team is playing. I would say individually this team/ squad is better than 1995 and definitely 2003 (Pards playoff year). But the football is awful and I personally would much rather watch both the 95 and 03 teams instead of this one. It is absolutely painful watching Reading at the minute, no pace, no flair prehistoric long ball tactics. It has to quote Schards in the main (barring an early season goal deluge) been very tedious and dull and uninspiring. There was a thread saying it's all about results not performance, well I don't beleive that, highlighted by this thread and the attitude of many a poster both old and new.

People spend a lot of money these days going to home and away games and they want to be entertained for their money. You expect teams in the 2nd tier of English football to at least put on a decent show and then hopefully the result follows. You accept that over a season you get the odd horror game and there are times when a good result does mask over a poor performance, but I do remember reading not negative but slightly pessimistic posts maybe even when we were winning. Because the football was that poor. I have honestly seen games 3 or 4 divisions below Reading's this season that have been far better than most of Reading's, in particular in 2009. Teams that have semi pro players that are more comfortable with the ball and make better use of it than professionals on serious money.

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by Scarface » 08 Apr 2009 11:50

We're not going up, so it's season over for me.

Just like last year the players simply aren't performing like they're desperate to go up. We witnessed the same sort of abject displays last season, when apparently we were in a relegation dog fight. I'm not sure if this is the manager's fault or whether the team lack bottle or leaders. Seeing as the manager is the same as are the core of players, I make the assumption all the above are true.

I'm won't be attending anymore games.

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Re: Negativity - Whats Going ON!

by mr_number » 08 Apr 2009 12:01

they're the same players who beat all the big teams earlier on the season, they've had a bad run, at some point they're gonna pull out of it. we are amongst the worst supporters in the league with our negativity and level of expectation.
i remember the night of the man utd replay in the cup a few years back- the atmosphere inside the madejski was amazing, and even after going 3-0 down, there was a feeling that somehow we could still do it. let's try and give them players some support in these last few games rather than writing them off.


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by brendywendy » 08 Apr 2009 12:04

Scarface We're not going up, so it's season over for me.

Just like last year the players simply aren't performing like they're desperate to go up. We witnessed the same sort of abject displays last season, when apparently we were in a relegation dog fight. I'm not sure if this is the manager's fault or whether the team lack bottle or leaders. Seeing as the manager is the same as are the core of players, I make the assumption all the above are true.

I'm won't be attending anymore games.


LOL


i respect your right to not attend, and to post your opinions on here


but that really is quite gay

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by Thaumagurist* » 08 Apr 2009 12:08

Scarface We're not going up, so it's season over for me.


WTF?

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by CMRoyal » 08 Apr 2009 12:12

Scarface spat his dummy and We're not going up, so it's season over for me.

Just like last year the players simply aren't performing like they're desperate to go up. We witnessed the same sort of abject displays last season, when apparently we were in a relegation dog fight. I'm not sure if this is the manager's fault or whether the team lack bottle or leaders. Seeing as the manager is the same as are the core of players, I make the assumption all the above are true.

I'm won't be attending anymore games.


I think there is a question mark over the team's mental strength. The prize hoves into sight and they proceed to freeze - legs become heavy, passes go astray, there's hesitation in front of goal. But to abandon them now? Crazy! Especially as a tiny bit of pressure has come off due to dropping to fourth. Maybe that will herald a bit more freedom and the 'shock' win we need. You could regret staying away.

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by Scarface » 08 Apr 2009 12:25

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Scarface spat his dummy and We're not going up, so it's season over for me.

Just like last year the players simply aren't performing like they're desperate to go up. We witnessed the same sort of abject displays last season, when apparently we were in a relegation dog fight. I'm not sure if this is the manager's fault or whether the team lack bottle or leaders. Seeing as the manager is the same as are the core of players, I make the assumption all the above are true.

I'm won't be attending anymore games.


I think there is a question mark over the team's mental strength. The prize hoves into sight and they proceed to freeze - legs become heavy, passes go astray, there's hesitation in front of goal. But to abandon them now? Crazy! Especially as a tiny bit of pressure has come off due to dropping to fourth. Maybe that will herald a bit more freedom and the 'shock' win we need. You could regret staying away.


What's the point of watching a slow death. I did it last season and have no intention of doing it again. And this time I won't bother renewing until I know Coppell has walked.


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by mr_number » 08 Apr 2009 12:46

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Scarface spat his dummy and We're not going up, so it's season over for me.

Just like last year the players simply aren't performing like they're desperate to go up. We witnessed the same sort of abject displays last season, when apparently we were in a relegation dog fight. I'm not sure if this is the manager's fault or whether the team lack bottle or leaders. Seeing as the manager is the same as are the core of players, I make the assumption all the above are true.

I'm won't be attending anymore games.


I think there is a question mark over the team's mental strength. The prize hoves into sight and they proceed to freeze - legs become heavy, passes go astray, there's hesitation in front of goal. But to abandon them now? Crazy! Especially as a tiny bit of pressure has come off due to dropping to fourth. Maybe that will herald a bit more freedom and the 'shock' win we need. You could regret staying away.


What's the point of watching a slow death. I did it last season and have no intention of doing it again. And this time I won't bother renewing until I know Coppell has walked.


What's the point of watching a slow death? What's the point of supporting a football team? I don't really understand how you can claim to be a fan, but be happy to switch off when things aren't going well. Aside from which, we still have a pretty decent chance of gaining promotion to the premiership for only the second time in our history, which I'd say is a pretty good effort...

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Re: Negativity - Whats Going ON!

by Y25 » 08 Apr 2009 13:35

To date this is the 5th most successful season in the clubs history

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by Jeffers217 » 08 Apr 2009 13:44

I'd quite frankly prefer to see exciting football in the 3rd tier like we had under Pardew than the rubbish we sit through every week. I don't care if we may go up, its not entertaining. The league has been an absolute shambles for quality. Strip the whole first team out, put in the whole reserve team who win every game and have younger hungrier players

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by brendywendy » 08 Apr 2009 14:45

Y25 To date this is the 5th most successful season in the clubs history



its pointless even trying

its like theyve been hypnotised by royalee


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by Royalee » 08 Apr 2009 14:48

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Y25 To date this is the 5th most successful season in the clubs history



its pointless even trying

its like theyve been hypnotised by royalee


LOL, not that any of you fools have been hypnotised by Coppell. I'm sick of this '5th successful season' nonsense - shouldn't the club always be striving to have its best season ever rather than saying 'oh it's ok, we've been worse than this before so this'll do'? I bet Hull wouldn't have been delighted at finishing bottom because it would have been their most successful season for so many years.

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Re: Negativity - Whats Going ON!

by Alan Partridge » 08 Apr 2009 14:56

brendywendy
Y25 To date this is the 5th most successful season in the clubs history



its pointless even trying

its like theyve been hypnotised by royalee


have you enjoyed this season?

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Re: Negativity - Whats Going ON!

by Sarah Star » 08 Apr 2009 15:02

It's all about being a glass half full or a glass half empty person

Glass half empty - We've only won 2 out of our last 11 games

Glass half full - We only conceeded 3 out of our last 11 games


Glass half empty - we're in 4th position, oh no, it's playoffs for sure!

Glass half full - we're in 4th position in the table, if we don't make automatic promotion, play offs will mean we can go to Wembley


Glass half empty - we haven't won at home since January

Glass half full - we're due a win at home

There's more...

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Re: Negativity - Whats Going ON!

by brendywendy » 08 Apr 2009 15:13

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Y25 To date this is the 5th most successful season in the clubs history



its pointless even trying

its like theyve been hypnotised by royalee


have you enjoyed this season?


i believe that the majority of the season has been enjoyable, dramatic, very close, unpredictable, and frustratingin equal measure-but hey ive been through whole seasons of just frustrating and still enjoyed them

there are games we lose that i am annoyed about afterwards, but i enjoy the drama during the game

there are 5-8games that ive seen first hand that are very frustrating, which ruined whole weekends for me, and where players seem to have played as if they just woke up and cant be arsed


personally i started to really follow reading(as in going to as many games as i could afford) in our last season at elm park when we went down, the football was awful mostly, the management often clueless, the crowds small,but i had a right laugh and thoroughly enjoyed every moment i was at the grounds.and i still do-even if during the bad games its mainly the gallows humour, and amusing chants i enjoy.

am i annoyed at the way the team have capitulated post xmas again-yes
am i annoyed we didnt capitalise on brum and wolves wobbles-yes

am i annoyed that the club isnt trying its best to get up-no
am i annoyed that there are players we could have and should have bought that would definitely got us up-no

but thats football, moaning about it says to me that its football in general that people are starting to fall out of love with
me, i still love it, and will do regardless of manager, players or league position

its like england-watching us miss out on penalties yet again when we should realy have won the game is heart breaking, but on the journey to that point you dont want for emotion and hope and pleasure and pain, and would find it hard to replicate that rollercoatster any other way.

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Re: Negativity - Whats Going ON!

by brendywendy » 08 Apr 2009 15:14

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Y25 To date this is the 5th most successful season in the clubs history



its pointless even trying

its like theyve been hypnotised by royalee


LOL, not that any of you fools have been hypnotised by Coppell. I'm sick of this '5th successful season' nonsense - shouldn't the club always be striving to have its best season ever rather than saying 'oh it's ok, we've been worse than this before so this'll do'? I bet Hull wouldn't have been delighted at finishing bottom because it would have been their most successful season for so many years.


they are striving

just not enough to satisfy every joey in the world

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Re: Negativity - Whats Going ON!

by Dirk Gently » 09 Apr 2009 09:39

Sarah Star It's all about being a glass half full or a glass half empty person

Glass half empty - We've only won 2 out of our last 11 games

Glass half full - We only conceeded 3 out of our last 11 games


Glass half empty - we're in 4th position, oh no, it's playoffs for sure!

Glass half full - we're in 4th position in the table, if we don't make automatic promotion, play offs will mean we can go to Wembley


Glass half empty - we haven't won at home since January

Glass half full - we're due a win at home

There's more...


The trouble is, four months ago the glass was positively brimming over, and everyone has watched a large hole develop and the contents steadily dripping out down the drain since.

This is the theory of relativity as applied to football - how you end up is relative to where you were a while ago. Scrabbling to get into the play-offs is great and a cause for celebration if you've spent all season in mid-table. But if you've had countless chances to take the table by the scruff of the neck and run away with it - and failed to take them all - then scrabbling to get into the play-offs is a poor compromise.
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Re: Negativity - Whats Going ON!

by Barry the bird boggler » 09 Apr 2009 09:41

6 wins from 6 remaining games means promotion and nobody can do anything about it.

Just wish it wasn't about as likely as Luton staying in the FL.

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