Give Mooney A Chance!

Should Mooney be given a chance up front?

Yes!!
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No way!
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Worth a shot...
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Re: Give Mooney A Chance!

by georgerob » 19 Aug 2009 11:35

rfc58 Taking what I have seen so far this season, I am not so sure changing "up top" is totally the answer, as I stated elsewhere, the service into the front line, once again is poor, and that needs addressing before we chop and change up top.


When matejovsky returns I can see more opportunities will be created for the strikers who are working off nothing atm. When we played burton matejovsky forward passing caused them problems all night, and set up a few of our goals. Long maybe could be used as a winger as well as kebe and henry have looked ineffective so far.

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Re: Give Mooney A Chance!

by Focher » 19 Aug 2009 11:37

georgerob When matejovsky returns I can see more opportunities will be created for the strikers who are working off nothing atm. When we played burton matejovsky forward passing caused them problems all night, and set up a few of our goals. Long maybe could be used as a winger as well as kebe and henry have looked ineffective so far.


Agree totally with that.

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Re: Give Mooney A Chance!

by Hoop Blah » 19 Aug 2009 11:39

Royal Lady In fact, for the hard of reading, my post starts "It's ALMOST as if" I have never said it was fact - just trying to find an explanation as to why things are seemingly not right.


In what way is it 'almost as if' though luv?

Rodgers has picked pretty much every Coppell signing left in the squad over the first 3 games of the season.

Women and football eh????

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Re: Give Mooney A Chance!

by Royal Lady » 19 Aug 2009 11:40

The youngsters were Coppell's squad too, I do know that - maybe I'm not expressing myself clearly here. :roll: He appears TO ME to rate the youngsters higher up the pecking order than a lot of Coppell's older squad players.

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Re: Give Mooney A Chance!

by Royalee » 19 Aug 2009 11:41

Royal Lady Is there really any need for silly disparaging remarks? Have I made any personal comments to you or anyone else on this thread? Grow up.

Who do we have left in the squad who is also fit who could replace Rosenior and Kebe?


Kebe? Robson-Kanu, hth.


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Re: Give Mooney A Chance!

by Royal Lady » 19 Aug 2009 11:43

Oh yeah, Robson-Kanu one of the "youngsters". :roll:

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Re: Give Mooney A Chance!

by Hoop Blah » 19 Aug 2009 11:45

Royal Lady The youngsters were Coppell's squad too, I do know that - maybe I'm not expressing myself clearly here. :roll: He appears TO ME to rate the youngsters higher up the pecking order than a lot of Coppell's older squad players.


Read my earlier post where I list all the Coppell signings Rodgers is playing who are not the kids from the Acadamy.

Actually, I'll save you the bother of looking it up

on the other page Hoop Blah
Royal Lady It's almost as if Rodgers doesn't want to play anyone that Coppell actually signed - and is keen on the youngsters because he was previously involved in the academy. he's got to swallow his pride imho.


Federici, Rosenoir, Tabb, Cisse, Hunt despite being injured, Long, Kebe, Matejovsky for a run out against Burton....how many more Coppell signings should he be playing RL?

Armstrong has been injured, as has Matejovksy and Hunt.

Gunnarsson is the only one he hasn't given a run out too!

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Re: Give Mooney A Chance!

by rfc58 » 19 Aug 2009 11:45

georgerob
rfc58 Taking what I have seen so far this season, I am not so sure changing "up top" is totally the answer, as I stated elsewhere, the service into the front line, once again is poor, and that needs addressing before we chop and change up top.


When matejovsky returns I can see more opportunities will be created for the strikers who are working off nothing atm. When we played burton matejovsky forward passing caused them problems all night, and set up a few of our goals. Long maybe could be used as a winger as well as kebe and henry have looked ineffective so far.

You're bang on George, but I think we need more than just that, we need the option of two wide men.

Any team worth their salt will see all or most of our play comes from MM, and will snuff him out.

IF we can get two wide men playing and contributing, it means the opposition will need to smother them as well, and I think this will free up MM.

I think what Buck is trying to do is great, just concerned he doesn't have the tools available to do it.

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Re: Give Mooney A Chance!

by Royal Lady » 19 Aug 2009 11:46

Jeez - Burton was a cup game - we NEVER bother in the cups! :wink:


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Re: Give Mooney A Chance!

by Royal Lady » 19 Aug 2009 11:47

And if I'm so bloody wrong about playing youngsters, why is it EVERYONE mentions how young the team is? :roll:

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Re: Give Mooney A Chance!

by Hoop Blah » 19 Aug 2009 11:49

Royal Lady Jeez - Burton was a cup game - we NEVER bother in the cups! :wink:


OK, so scrub off the unfit Matejovsky from that list then. The rest have all played in the two league games.

Do you now accept that you were totally off the mark with you criticism? Go on, just accept that you were wrong.

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Re: Give Mooney A Chance!

by yuomi » 19 Aug 2009 11:57

radoslav vasilev.

i dont know why there is an unwritten rule at this club that we dont try stikers until theyre at least 20, but it seems we have a bit of an anti-youth policy to the extent that we're all now wrapped up in the fact that this bunch of 20 somethings are akin to fergie's kids.

wont win nothing with these kids.

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Re: Give Mooney A Chance!

by Hoop Blah » 19 Aug 2009 12:04

yuomi radoslav vasilev.

i dont know why there is an unwritten rule at this club that we dont try stikers until theyre at least 20, but it seems we have a bit of an anti-youth policy to the extent that we're all now wrapped up in the fact that this bunch of 20 somethings are akin to fergie's kids.

wont win nothing with these kids.


The couple of times I've seen him he was truely awful and looked lacking in comparison to the rest of the youth team.

Not sure he'd be ready for the first team, but you never know!


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Re: Give Mooney A Chance!

by Deathy » 19 Aug 2009 12:23

I'd like to see Ladders #2 given a few games, but he surely needs to be part of a 4-4-2. And we need crosses into the box.

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Re: Give Mooney A Chance!

by UpNorth » 19 Aug 2009 13:15

Yes - Mooney must start!!!

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Re: Give Mooney A Chance!

by holsgrove breaks a leg » 19 Aug 2009 13:39

Royalee
Royal Lady It's almost as if Rodgers doesn't want to play anyone that Coppell actually signed - and is keen on the youngsters because he was previously involved in the academy. he's got to swallow his pride imho.


Rosenior and Kebe were the worst players on the pitch on Saturday and apparently Harper had a nightmare and we looked weaker when he came on last night. Funny how the players Coppell signed are actually the worst yet you choose to ignore this, but then again you're not the brightest of people so I didn't expect you to pick up on this.


Funny then Royalee how our form dipped dramatically with the injury last season to Ivar, one of Coppells most succesful signings. You can pick at straws with your arguements all you like but the fact is we currently dont have a striker who can play the central role to distinction and there are question marks about which strikers he has employed and whether they should be utilised together. Until this comes to fruition on the training ground we are going to continue with an unbalanced team.

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Re: Give Mooney A Chance!

by Nezhen » 19 Aug 2009 13:51

I suggested we include Mooney before the Forest game, but as usual was shot down in flames by many on here. As you say, he did really well at Norwich and was great in pre-season and then again against Burton. I really would be putting him in ahead of Church and Long now, his reputation in the Irish league for goals was superb and the stats don't lie (15 goals in 22 appearances in 2008 alone).
He's waited his turn and is due a chance, please let's put him in with Henry on Saturday!

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Re: Give Mooney A Chance!

by skipper » 19 Aug 2009 19:39

I work with a Norwich fan who couldn't understand why last year Lita was loaned out, when we were stuggaling for goals and fit strikers. And now why Mooney isn't being given the chance, even though he proved he could score at Norwich - even though they wern't playing well.

Despite his team being relegated and playing shite, he still found reasonable ground to laugh at us. And i hated him for it.

Give Mooney a chance, what exactly are we going to lose by doing so?

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Re: Give Mooney A Chance!

by Victor Meldrew » 19 Aug 2009 20:07

skipper I work with a Norwich fan who couldn't understand why last year Lita was loaned out, when we were stuggaling for goals and fit strikers. And now why Mooney isn't being given the chance, even though he proved he could score at Norwich - even though they wern't playing well.

Despite his team being relegated and playing shite, he still found reasonable ground to laugh at us. And i hated him for it.

Give Mooney a chance, what exactly are we going to lose by doing so?


I would hope that Lita and Mooney would look like stars in a side that was hurtling towards the 3rd tier of English football so not a great recommendation.
Presumably with Hunt injured Church was Rodgers first choice striker as he started the Forest game.
Long is presumably 2nd choice as he started the Newcastle game.
So by my reckoning Bignall and Mooney are 4th and 5th choice.
Surely we should not be looking that far down the pecking order after just 3 games?

When Rodgers arrived much was made of his familiarity with our players so you would think his order is (Hunt somewhere)
Church
Long
Mooney/Bignall.
It doesn't say much for him if he ditches his first two choices after just 3 games does it?

As people have said in other topics the lack of a supply line to any of the strikers is clear and that is just as important an area to address as the choice of striker.
I don't think league games are the place for keeping making changes to the front line,the manager should have a good enough idea of his starting players and work with those in training where they are already having to get used to 4-5-1 after spending all of their time at the club previously playing 4-4-2.

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Re: Give Mooney A Chance!

by rg6royal » 19 Aug 2009 21:04

Definately worth a go. We know he is capable of scoring as he did so whilst out on loan last season.

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