The Team - Who's to keep and who's to get rid?

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The Team - Who's to keep and who's to get rid?

by comeonurzzz » 28 Oct 2009 20:06

Hi I have been a fan since 93/94 and had a season-ticket from 94/95 up until our first season in the Prem. I will always follow Reading but no longer go to games regularly now due to being a heroin and crack cocaine addict but and am interested to know your opinions on the new signings this summer and who you think are decent aquisitions and any who you think are not. Also the young players that have been brought in, can they cut the mustard? Looking at the league table it suggests neither are any good but is it just early days or are we doomed?

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Re: The Team - Who's to keep and who's to get rid?

by Ian Royal » 28 Oct 2009 22:26

Federici - keep
Hamer - keep
OOPS - Andersen - get rid.
Kelly - loan out
Cummings - (controversially) keep, decent signing in the long term but needs to come into a more settled and confident team to blossom
Armstrong - stay or go, not fussed, great player but his injury record is atrocious
Bertrand - very good signing, would be happy to keep long term. He won't make it at Chelsea
Pearce - keep, will make it
Ivar - ditch in the summer - great servant but in decline
Mills - keep. Good signing, not sure if he and Pearce work
O'Dea - undecided, can be a cut above, can also be pretty poor
Cisse - only keep if we can improve his heading and use him as a CB only, otherwise get shot
Gunnarsson - don't really think he was worth keeping for this season get rid
Karacan - keep, excellent player
Tabb - I can take him or leave him personally, but I think he's worth keeping for now
Siggurdsson - excellent prospect - keep
Davies - excellent prospect - keep
Howard - ok signing but doesn't really do enough for me -I'd bin him in the summer
Matejovsky - frustrating, but one of the best players we have - keep
Kebe - see above - keep
McAnuff - this is getting repetitive good signing keep
Henry - shift him, he doesn't seem t have the correct attitude
HRK - loan him out again, lots of potential, not sure if he'll fulfill
Church - keep excellent prospect
Long - get rid in the summer never really done enough and now is slow and fat
Rasiak - get rid in the summer we need better
Hunt - good player - keep
Mooney - undecided
Bignall - undecided
Antonio - undecided
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Re: The Team - Who's to keep and who's to get rid?

by bottom left hand corner » 28 Oct 2009 22:45

Ian Royal Federici - keep
Hamer - keep
Kelly - loan out
Cummings - (controversially) keep, decent signing in the long term but needs to come into a more settled and confident team to blossom
Armstrong - stay or go, not fussed, great player but his injury record is atrocious
Bertrand - very good signing, would be happy to keep long term. He won't make it at Chelsea
Pearce - keep, will make it
Ivar - ditch in the summer - great servant but in decline
Mills - keep. Good signing, not sure if he and Pearce work
O'Dea - undecided, can be a cut above, can also be pretty poor
Cisse - only keep if we can improve his heading and use him as a CB only, otherwise get shot
Gunnarsson - don't really think he was worth keeping for this season get rid
Karacan - keep, excellent player
Tabb - I can take him or leave him personally, but I think he's worth keeping for now
Siggurdsson - excellent prospect - keep
Davies - excellent prospect - keep
Howard - ok signing but doesn't really do enough for me -I'd bin him in the summer
Matejovsky - frustrating, but one of the best players we have - keep
Kebe - see above - keep
McAnuff - this is getting repetitive good signing keep
Henry - shift him, he doesn't seem t have the correct attitude
HRK - loan him out again, lots of potential, not sure if he'll fulfill
Church - keep excellent prospect
Long - get rid in the summer never really done enough and now is slow and fat
Rasiak - get rid in the summer we need better
Hunt - good player - keep
Mooney - undecided
Bignall - undecided
Antonio - undecided



Sorry mate but we are doing crap and everyone says the players arn't good enough but you have litterally said keep the lot

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Re: The Team - Who's to keep and who's to get rid?

by yuomi » 28 Oct 2009 23:01

ian, way off the mark. im not an advocate of change for change's sake but youve gone through the current squad and kept 90% of them. the current sqaud that has us languishing in the relegation zone and breast-beating in frustration.

cummings has shown no evidence of being ready, whether really or potentially for this level either in his forays here or previously at albion.
kebe is far too inconsistant to merit a long term future at the club, especaially on that kind of money.
long is lazy.
church has potential i agree but he has failed to show the finished article in lower divisions than the championship for successive seasons (where testimonials have been almost identical to what he is doing now 'lots of shots, no finish')
howard is a lump
rasiak is past it
mcanuff isnt good enough
odea is not a long term option and therefore not worthy of discussion as one with a long term future at the club

etc.

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Re: The Team - Who's to keep and who's to get rid?

by Ian Royal » 28 Oct 2009 23:26

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Ian Royal Federici - keep
Hamer - keep
Kelly - loan out
Cummings - (controversially) keep, decent signing in the long term but needs to come into a more settled and confident team to blossom
Armstrong - stay or go, not fussed, great player but his injury record is atrocious
Bertrand - very good signing, would be happy to keep long term. He won't make it at Chelsea
Pearce - keep, will make it
Ivar - ditch in the summer - great servant but in decline
Mills - keep. Good signing, not sure if he and Pearce work
O'Dea - undecided, can be a cut above, can also be pretty poor
Cisse - only keep if we can improve his heading and use him as a CB only, otherwise get shot
Gunnarsson - don't really think he was worth keeping for this season get rid
Karacan - keep, excellent player
Tabb - I can take him or leave him personally, but I think he's worth keeping for now
Siggurdsson - excellent prospect - keep
Davies - excellent prospect - keep
Howard - ok signing but doesn't really do enough for me -I'd bin him in the summer
Matejovsky - frustrating, but one of the best players we have - keep
Kebe - see above - keep
McAnuff - this is getting repetitive good signing keep
Henry - shift him, he doesn't seem t have the correct attitude
HRK - loan him out again, lots of potential, not sure if he'll fulfill
Church - keep excellent prospect
Long - get rid in the summer never really done enough and now is slow and fat
Rasiak - get rid in the summer we need better
Hunt - good player - keep
Mooney - undecided
Bignall - undecided
Antonio - undecided



Sorry mate but we are doing crap and everyone says the players arn't good enough but you have litterally said keep the lot


I don't say the players aren't good enough. In fact I say they mostly are good enough.

And I've said get rid of 6, and undecided or don't care about another 6 plus loan two out. Another 5 or so are young and will be better by next season.

Did you even bother reading it?


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Re: The Team - Who's to keep and who's to get rid?

by Ian Royal » 28 Oct 2009 23:27

yuomi ian, way off the mark. im not an advocate of change for change's sake but youve gone through the current squad and kept 90% of them. the current sqaud that has us languishing in the relegation zone and breast-beating in frustration.

cummings has shown no evidence of being ready, whether really or potentially for this level either in his forays here or previously at albion.
kebe is far too inconsistant to merit a long term future at the club, especaially on that kind of money.
long is lazy.
church has potential i agree but he has failed to show the finished article in lower divisions than the championship for successive seasons (where testimonials have been almost identical to what he is doing now 'lots of shots, no finish')
howard is a lump
rasiak is past it
mcanuff isnt good enough
odea is not a long term option and therefore not worthy of discussion as one with a long term future at the club

etc.


Try reading it, I say get rid of Long, Howard and Rasiak, and undecided on O'Dea :roll:

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Re: The Team - Who's to keep and who's to get rid?

by yuomi » 28 Oct 2009 23:51

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yuomi ian, way off the mark. im not an advocate of change for change's sake but youve gone through the current squad and kept 90% of them. the current sqaud that has us languishing in the relegation zone and breast-beating in frustration.

cummings has shown no evidence of being ready, whether really or potentially for this level either in his forays here or previously at albion.
kebe is far too inconsistant to merit a long term future at the club, especaially on that kind of money.
long is lazy.
church has potential i agree but he has failed to show the finished article in lower divisions than the championship for successive seasons (where testimonials have been almost identical to what he is doing now 'lots of shots, no finish')
howard is a lump
rasiak is past it
mcanuff isnt good enough
odea is not a long term option and therefore not worthy of discussion as one with a long term future at the club

etc.


Try reading it, I say get rid of Long, Howard and Rasiak, and undecided on O'Dea :roll:


those, for what its worth, were my thoughts. the first part was indeed a direct respone to you, i thought youd been a bit kind to one or two members of the squad and we do agree on quite a few points. but i think you were a tad too generous to one or two of the underperformers.

no need to get your knickers in a twist. i read it, and a fine bit of writing it was too.

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Re: The Team - Who's to keep and who's to get rid?

by Royalee » 29 Oct 2009 03:19

Federici - keep
Hamer - keep
Andersen - get rid.
Kelly - loan out
Cummings - get rid asap
Armstrong - get rid
Bertrand - sign
Pearce - keep
Ivar - get rid
Mills - keep
O'Dea - keep if we can, not good enough for Champions League football
Cisse - get rid
Gunnarsson - get rid
Karacan - keep,
Tabb - keep
Siggurdsson - keep
Davies - keep
Howard - keep for the time being
Matejovsky - keep
Kebe - get rid
McAnuff - keep
Henry - get rid
HRK - keep for the time being
Church - keep for the time being
Long - get rid
Rasiak - keep
Hunt - keep
Mooney - get rid
Bignall - keep for the time being
Antonio - keep for the time being

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Re: The Team - Who's to keep and who's to get rid?

by Barry the bird boggler » 29 Oct 2009 07:57

Federici - keep
Hamer - keep
Andersen - release
Kelly - loan
Cummings - loan
Armstrong - monitor injury status
Bertrand - keep
Pearce - keep
Ivar - release
Mills - keep
O'Dea - keep
Cisse - keep
Gunnarsson - release
Karacan - keep
Tabb - keep
Siggurdsson - keep
Davies - keep
Howard - release
Matejovsky - release
Kebe - release
McAnuff - keep
Henry - release
HRK - loan out
Church - loan out
Long - release
Rasiak - release
Hunt - keep
Mooney - release
Bignall - loan out
Antonio - loan out


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Re: The Team - Who's to keep and who's to get rid?

by Who Moved The Goalposts? » 29 Oct 2009 09:03

Ian Royal Try reading it, I say get rid of Long, Howard and Rasiak, and undecided on O'Dea :roll:


Certainly agree with you on Rasiak & Long. One is a has-been and one a never-will-be. O'Dea is academic because he would never stay and even if he expressed an interest, JM would never sanction the purchase. Howard is the only one I'm confused with at the moment - he can do something really well, and in the very next moment will do something not so well. I think he may be worth persevering with.

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Re: The Team - Who's to keep and who's to get rid?

by Ian Royal » 29 Oct 2009 12:14

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yuomi ian, way off the mark. im not an advocate of change for change's sake but youve gone through the current squad and kept 90% of them. the current sqaud that has us languishing in the relegation zone and breast-beating in frustration.

cummings has shown no evidence of being ready, whether really or potentially for this level either in his forays here or previously at albion.
kebe is far too inconsistant to merit a long term future at the club, especaially on that kind of money.
long is lazy.
church has potential i agree but he has failed to show the finished article in lower divisions than the championship for successive seasons (where testimonials have been almost identical to what he is doing now 'lots of shots, no finish')
howard is a lump
rasiak is past it
mcanuff isnt good enough
odea is not a long term option and therefore not worthy of discussion as one with a long term future at the club

etc.


Try reading it, I say get rid of Long, Howard and Rasiak, and undecided on O'Dea :roll:


those, for what its worth, were my thoughts. the first part was indeed a direct respone to you, i thought youd been a bit kind to one or two members of the squad and we do agree on quite a few points. but i think you were a tad too generous to one or two of the underperformers.

no need to get your knickers in a twist. i read it, and a fine bit of writing it was too.


Sorry.

It's just a bit frustrating having two people in a row criticise in the same way saying I hadn't suggested getting rid of many. When actually 6 from 29 is 20% (so keeping 80%) + plus a further 20% undecided and 6% to go out on loan.

Then you didn't actually list more than a couple of differences to me in getting rid.

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Re: The Team - Who's to keep and who's to get rid?

by Deathy » 29 Oct 2009 12:24

Federici - OUT
Long - OUT OUT OUT

Matejovsky - Big earner and soon to go because of it - OUT

Knight the rest, we're world class.

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by LoyalRoyalFan » 29 Oct 2009 12:25

Federici - KEEP
Hamer - KEEP
Kelly - KEEP
Cummings - SELL
Armstrong - KEEP
Bertrand - NOT OUR PLAYER. BUT KEEP.
Pearce - KEEP
Ivar - KEEP
Mills - KEEP
O'Dea - NOT OUR PLAYER. BUT KEEP.
Cisse - KEEP
Gunnarsson - SELL
Karacan - KEEP
Tabb - KEEP
Siggurdsson - LOAN OUT. KEEP.
Davies - KEEP.
Howard - SELL
Matejovsky - KEEP
Kebe - KEEP
McAnuff - SELL
Henry - KEEP
HRK - KEEP
Church - KEEP
Long - KEEP
Rasiak - SELL
Hunt - KEEP
Mooney - KEEP
Bignall - KEEP
Antonio - KEEP


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Re: The Team - Who's to keep and who's to get rid?

by Sir Rodney Effing » 29 Oct 2009 12:31

Deathy Federici - OUT
Long - OUT OUT OUT

Matejovsky - Big earner and soon to go because of it - OUT

Knight the rest, we're world class.


Blimey, whose the drug addict here?

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Re: The Team - Who's to keep and who's to get rid?

by adamh4608 » 29 Oct 2009 12:58

Royalee Armstrong - get rid


player of the season last year, that has not played due to injury and you would get rid, don't you think he should have a chance to prove himself first ?

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Re: The Team - Who's to keep and who's to get rid?

by Mad Dog's Ghost » 29 Oct 2009 13:11

Keep – Tabb, Karacan and Kingsley.

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by rg6royal » 29 Oct 2009 13:16

Fed - Keep
Hamer - Keep
Andersson - Keep (Probably will need another loan)
Cummings - Get rid
Kelly - Keep for now
Bertrand - Extend loan if possible
Armstrong - Keep - One of our best players
Pearce - Keep - Future captain
O'Dea - Keep if possible but doubt Celtic will let us extend the loan
Mills - Keep
Cisse - Keep
Bryn - Get rid of the end of the season
Tabb - Keep - Versatile and always gives 100%
Karacan - Keep
Howard - Keep
Marek - Keep
Kebe - Keep
Antonio - Keep - Will probably need another season out on loan
Henry - Keep
McAnuff - Keep
Davies - Keep
Sig - Keep
Mooney - Is there any point him being at the Club?
NHunt - If we can sort out his injury problems then keep, if not, maybe cash in on the lad
Church - Keep
Bignall - Keep
Rasiak - Spose we have to keep him until we bring in some new strikers
Long - Can go at the end of the season

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Re: The Team - Who's to keep and who's to get rid?

by SteveRoyal » 29 Oct 2009 13:29

Keep Federici, Mills, Bertrand, Karacan, Sigurdsson, Matejovsky, Tabb, Church.
Dump the rest?
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Re: The Team - Who's to keep and who's to get rid?

by The Knitting Circle » 29 Oct 2009 13:39

we a need manager and some new fans

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