No striker on the horizon

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Re: No striker on the horizon

by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 24 Sep 2010 20:05

BR2 Didn't we get the little matter of £30,000,000 from Sky that year plus full houses for every game which surely covered the cost of those gambles?

The payments were only £12 million a year, I believe, not £30 million.

And we didn't get full houses every game that first year down either.

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Re: No striker on the horizon

by Victor Meldrew » 24 Sep 2010 21:38

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BR2 Didn't we get the little matter of £30,000,000 from Sky that year plus full houses for every game which surely covered the cost of those gambles?

The payments were only £12 million a year, I believe, not £30 million.

And we didn't get full houses every game that first year down either.

Apologies I was on about the 2nd year in The Premiership when we should have had a surplus to carry forward to the next season in The Championship if we were a well run club having had 2x £30,000,000 in The Premiership 2 years.

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Re: No striker on the horizon

by sheshnu » 25 Sep 2010 11:34

Why are you deliberately ignoring the oft-reproduced accounts which disprove this entirely? All that TV money disappeared very quickly I'm afraid (mainly, iirc, on paying the players the club was desperately trying to keep hold of)

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Re: No striker on the horizon

by Millsy » 25 Sep 2010 13:27

Those living up Madejski's Rectum can't have it both ways.

So...

A) The Prem is SOOO financially horrific that despite the millions we received even our extremely well run brick-by-brick club was financially ruined and is still suffering to this day.

Yet...

B) Madejski had/has loaaads of money to splash around but the poor guy is always really unlucky to have annoying managers who chose not to, and he STILL is as willing (and stupid) as he was ten years ago to really want to get back into the Prem and do the same again.

FFS this ain't rocket science, Rectum Crew.

Madejski is a good lad who might've been up for it to begin with but just hasn't got the balls anymore for anything other than having us teeter around in the comfort of the Championship with the occasional pop at promotion, whilst producing pocket-lining talent to fund Cilla occasionally.

*bangs head against brick wall for the umpteenth time and leaves*

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Re: No striker on the horizon

by PEARCEY » 25 Sep 2010 13:31

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brendywendy Lol at 2 million buying 3 top championship players. It will pay the wages of 2.for a year. Without transfer fees. So wed need 5 million to do what u want.and thats irrelevant as jm isnt going to do it. So youd better resign yourself to trying to build a team from our academy,supplemented by experienced pros, or else be terminally enraged.
brendywendy We all want that. And 2 million still.doesnt get us the 2-3 top players you say it could. No matter how you explain. And considering jms position its pointless conjecture anyway. But apologies for any offence caused
brendywendy We all want that. And 2 million still.doesnt get us the 2-3 top players you say it could. No matter how you explain. And considering jms position its pointless conjecture anyway. But apologies for any offence caused


I beg to differ with you mate. I know it is irrelevant now but if we kept The Sig, signed 2 decent-ish strikers in say Jon Stead and Matty Fryatt (just examples) and forked out that tiny transfer fee for Kish, I genuinly think we would be in the position to be challenging. Now that wouldn't cost us a great deal more than 2 million and would have been a worthwhile investment as crowds would be up, hence more revenue, and the chance of promotion would potentially result in millions. Sometimes you have to spend money to get the great rewards- look at the fine line between Birmingham and Reading 2 seasons ago, now look at the MASSIVE gap- their risking it really pulled off. We played our cards too close to our chest and now we are paying for it and supporters are getting disillusioned- I don't blame them


We did risk it that first season by keeping hold of players that we arguably could no longer afford. It's that season of gamble that is a major factor in why the club are following the path they are now.



Well we sold Shorey,Kitson and Sonko before the season had really got going and got around £11 million in transfers from their sale. Most of this wasn't spent on new signings.


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Re: No striker on the horizon

by Arch » 25 Sep 2010 15:29

2 world wars, 1 world cup Those living up Madejski's Rectum can't have it both ways.

So...

A) The Prem is SOOO financially horrific that despite the millions we received even our extremely well run brick-by-brick club was financially ruined and is still suffering to this day.

Yet...

B) Madejski had/has loaaads of money to splash around but the poor guy is always really unlucky to have annoying managers who chose not to, and he STILL is as willing (and stupid) as he was ten years ago to really want to get back into the Prem and do the same again.

FFS this ain't rocket science, Rectum Crew.

Madejski is a good lad who might've been up for it to begin with but just hasn't got the balls anymore for anything other than having us teeter around in the comfort of the Championship with the occasional pop at promotion, whilst producing pocket-lining talent to fund Cilla occasionally.

*bangs head against brick wall for the umpteenth time and leaves*

Correct, it isn't rocket science. The club made a 6m profit each year in the Premiership. Some of that was available for additional transfers but not used by Coppell. When relegated, the wage bill exceeded income and had to be cut. In the first season down, the wage bill was still kept at a level that was not sustainable long-term. When the parachute payments ran out, the wage-bill had to be massively reduced to match very much reduced income.

Very, very simple really, but evidently beyond many people on this board.

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Re: No striker on the horizon

by RoyalBlue » 25 Sep 2010 22:04

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2 world wars, 1 world cup Those living up Madejski's Rectum can't have it both ways.

So...

A) The Prem is SOOO financially horrific that despite the millions we received even our extremely well run brick-by-brick club was financially ruined and is still suffering to this day.

Yet...

B) Madejski had/has loaaads of money to splash around but the poor guy is always really unlucky to have annoying managers who chose not to, and he STILL is as willing (and stupid) as he was ten years ago to really want to get back into the Prem and do the same again.

FFS this ain't rocket science, Rectum Crew.

Madejski is a good lad who might've been up for it to begin with but just hasn't got the balls anymore for anything other than having us teeter around in the comfort of the Championship with the occasional pop at promotion, whilst producing pocket-lining talent to fund Cilla occasionally.

*bangs head against brick wall for the umpteenth time and leaves*

Correct, it isn't rocket science. The club made a 6m profit each year in the Premiership. Some of that was available for additional transfers but not used by Coppell. When relegated, the wage bill exceeded income and had to be cut. In the first season down, the wage bill was still kept at a level that was not sustainable long-term. When the parachute payments ran out, the wage-bill had to be massively reduced to match very much reduced income.

Very, very simple really, but evidently beyond many people on this board.


What is beyond me is how gullible people like you are! You swallow every word that Madejski and his cronies feed you. Did we not make any money in our record breaking season? Not to forget all of those generous financial donations from the great man himself! :lol: Do you honestly believe all of the PL riches were spent on wages at a club who always tell us that they do not pay over the odds? Were we not told several times that books had been balanced, only for further blackholes to suddenly appear? And whilst our 'incredible well run club' (quote Madejski, his cronies and his disciples) continues to persistently struggle financially, other less well run clubs, including some with smaller fan bases, seem to be doing fine despite all the predictions from the Madejski followers that disaster is imminent for them!

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Re: No striker on the horizon

by Snowball » 25 Sep 2010 23:03

According to Statto we are the sixth best attack in this league,
the sixth-best defence


and fourth best in goal superiority.


Surely, all that matters is we score. We are doing that.

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Re: No striker on the horizon

by Arch » 25 Sep 2010 23:28

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2 world wars, 1 world cup Those living up Madejski's Rectum can't have it both ways.

So...

A) The Prem is SOOO financially horrific that despite the millions we received even our extremely well run brick-by-brick club was financially ruined and is still suffering to this day.

Yet...

B) Madejski had/has loaaads of money to splash around but the poor guy is always really unlucky to have annoying managers who chose not to, and he STILL is as willing (and stupid) as he was ten years ago to really want to get back into the Prem and do the same again.

FFS this ain't rocket science, Rectum Crew.

Madejski is a good lad who might've been up for it to begin with but just hasn't got the balls anymore for anything other than having us teeter around in the comfort of the Championship with the occasional pop at promotion, whilst producing pocket-lining talent to fund Cilla occasionally.

*bangs head against brick wall for the umpteenth time and leaves*

Correct, it isn't rocket science. The club made a 6m profit each year in the Premiership. Some of that was available for additional transfers but not used by Coppell. When relegated, the wage bill exceeded income and had to be cut. In the first season down, the wage bill was still kept at a level that was not sustainable long-term. When the parachute payments ran out, the wage-bill had to be massively reduced to match very much reduced income.

Very, very simple really, but evidently beyond many people on this board.


What is beyond me is how gullible people like you are! You swallow every word that Madejski and his cronies feed you. Did we not make any money in our record breaking season? Not to forget all of those generous financial donations from the great man himself! :lol: Do you honestly believe all of the PL riches were spent on wages at a club who always tell us that they do not pay over the odds? Were we not told several times that books had been balanced, only for further blackholes to suddenly appear? And whilst our 'incredible well run club' (quote Madejski, his cronies and his disciples) continues to persistently struggle financially, other less well run clubs, including some with smaller fan bases, seem to be doing fine despite all the predictions from the Madejski followers that disaster is imminent for them!
Having mystical insight into behind the scenes shenanigans is an art that, unlike you, I haven't mastered. But when someone says "it's not rocket science" they generally mean there's an easy equation to work out. If there's an easy equation, it's on the side of the club's account as I've recapped above. If, on the other hand, people like you and 2WW are right, the calculation is not simple at all but requires tortured reasoning and quite a bit of mathematical gymnastics. You don't see that because you can't be bothered to do any calculating. You just put your conclusion out there with no premises.


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Re: No striker on the horizon

by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 26 Sep 2010 00:19

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What is beyond me is how gullible people like you are! You swallow every word that Madejski and his cronies feed you. Did we not make any money in our record breaking season?

No. We made a loss. Quite a substantial one.

And that's kind of the problem, as stated above. People such as yourself make assumptions and presume any statements to the contrary are lies.

On one hand you have the club publishing audited accounts showing the situation, which would be illegal to falsify, and on the other, you have people insisting huge profits are being made and money presumably being siphoned off into Madejski's pocket. It's kind of why such people lack credibility. Ludicrous suggestions that a real chairman should be handing over £20 million a year, or borrowing that amount from the banks, don't do any favours either.

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new players ??

by readingboy » 28 Sep 2010 18:56

Reading manager Brian McDermott is hoping to bolster his squad with the addition of Premier League players on loan.

The Royals have made a solid start to the season but McDermott is still keen to strengthen his squad after taking in a couple of Carling Cup ties last week.

"I was at Tottenham-Arsenal on Tuesday and Chelsea-Newcastle on Wednesday, so I am still looking to dip into the loan market if I see something that will improve us," McDermott told skysports.com.

"Both myself and the scouts will continue to look at players and if we see something that ticks the right boxes then we will try to do something to bring that player in."

The Royals were expected to challenge for the play-offs this season after ending last term in fine form, but McDermott believes that the loss of Gylfi Sigurdsson before the close of the transfer window has promoted a readjustment.

He added: "We are just trying to get ourselves settled again after Gylfi Sigurdsson left us last month.

"We need to find a way of playing that suits us again, so that we can get the goals that we need.

"We don't tend to look much further than the next game ahead and that is Ipswich, so that is the most important thing, to pick up points against them and then move on to the next one."

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Re: new players ??

by Row Z Royal » 28 Sep 2010 19:11

Two things wrong:

1) Source?

2) UR&G

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Re: new players ??

by ankeny » 28 Sep 2010 19:32

Word for word,Tribal Football


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Re: new players ??

by Gav » 28 Sep 2010 19:47

The clue being in the body of the text, it's also on Skysports.com

Verbatim.

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