Shane Long

[Snowball]

The OS hasn't included the POs

Most of the stats sites HAVE

Yes but you are including the goals from the playoffs but not the shots. That is my point.

Again you are being innaccurate and funnily enough yet again your innaccuracies are in FAVOUR of Shane Long. You haven't done that before have you?

Oh oxf*rd off you old woman. Shane had 104 shots in the season. So if he had 4-5 in the POs, like that is going to totally alter his stats.

[Snowball]

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Not sure if Snowball' response was aimed at WR's (a fair assumption considering they were back to back posts) however I don't agree that the season's stats should include the playoffs as you don't have a level starting point (due to the 2 or 3 extra games in the PO's).

Many of the stats sites have moved Sinclair to top-scorer
by including his PO goals.


IMO PO games are against championship clubs and should count. The fact that four clubs
get extra games hardly matters. Some clubs get extra games in the cup but we don't say
that's not fair. We EARNED those extra games

[Snowball]

ITV.com

1 Sinclair Swansea City 19 5 0 3 27 (9 pen)

2 Graham Watford 23 3 0 0 26 (1 pen)

3 Long Reading 21 2 0 2 25 (7 pen)

4 Holt Norwich City 21 2 0 0 23 (3 pen)

[loyalroyal7]

i think we will hold on to him the emotion he showed at the end of p.o final showed how much reading meant to him , moving would uprooting his baby and mrs , i think mcd cud improve him still as a player and if he stays we could have a very good push for promotion

[urz13]

i think we will hold on to him the emotion he showed at the end of p.o final showed how much reading meant to him , moving would uprooting his baby and mrs , i think mcd cud improve him still as a player and if he stays we could have a very good push for promotion

'you're just another 1teaminberksRFC' (8)

[dogzbollox]

If he goes to Celtic for £4 million, he will...
...earn > £1 million a year
...be their biggest player and the most famous man in Glasgow
...be able to score goals each week against conference defences
...get several huge local derbies each year
...play for the club loads of his family might have supported when he was younger
...get into the Champions League each year

I would love him to stay at Reading, and always imagined he would leave us for a bigger club in the Premiership, but going to Celtic wouldn't be daft.

... be playing in a league in which UEFA values each goal as being worth half the value of a goal scored in England, Italy, Spain, Germany etc ....
... be abused and reviled in half the places in the city
... be constantly looking over his shoulder and worrying about his family
... be wondering what the postman brings each day


This guy knows what he's talking about, I'm from Ayrshire originally (for those interested approximately 40 miles south-west of Glasgow) and have seen and experienced the bigotry 1st hand on a number of occasions.

The SPL is basically a two team league - the two teams in question would be top half championship teams AT BEST, the other 10 also rans in the SPL would struggle to cut it in the 3rd tier of English football (29 points between 2nd & 3rd)- and I say this without prejudice having supported neither of the two 'SPL Giants' but I did follow one of the two 'Giants of Ayrshire' - Kilmarnock who were 5th on 49 points & 43 points off Celtic in 2nd place, bearing in mind Reading were 5th with 77 points and only 7 points off Norwich in 2nd.

For those doubters of the quality of Scottish football, please remember Rangers (Scottish Champions and better than Celtic allegedly) pre-season tour when they played Portsmouth, got beaten 2-0 and Pompey were relegated to the championship that season (ok ok pre-season friendlies yadda yadda)............!! So I do not think it would be a good career move going to Celtic, but he would get European football and a major salary hike - depends on how good HE thinks he is, if he thinks he's good enough for the premiership then he'll hang around, or if not and the Irish/Catholic thing kicks in he'll be heading north of the border.

Edit: not half the city - half the country

Edit Edit:...sorry got the quote thing wrong

[Snowball]

Nice post.

[Platypuss]

The OS hasn't included the POs

Most of the stats sites HAVE

Yes but you are including the goals from the playoffs but not the shots. That is my point.

Again you are being innaccurate and funnily enough yet again your innaccuracies are in FAVOUR of Shane Long. You haven't done that before have you?

Oh oxf*rd off you old woman. Shane had 104 shots in the season. So if he had 4-5 in the POs, like that is going to totally alter his stats.

Bang to rights.

[CayeneMatt]

I've already posted this but as it keeps cropping up, I'll run the gauntlet again....

At the risk of sounding like our dearly departed incoherent joyriding asbo-collecting resident retard '1teamberk...' (RIP), I have an insider contact at Celtic, and although Lennon did watch Long twice, Celtic know they will lose out in a bidding war and can't afford anything over 3M.

Celtic for such an apparent 'big' club have not spent big in recent history.

I think Fortune at 3.5m was their biggest buy of recent times.

[FiNeRaIn]

He's an Irish catholic, exactly the type of player Celtic like signing. Hence why they go for robbie keane, shay given, damien duff, richard dunee,etc very close season.

Moving to celtic would be a bad move, the standard is lower especially as Celtic never make the champions league these days

Better off going to a mid-table prem team by far. Aston villa, newcastle, sunderland,etc those are the type of clubs he should be aiming for.

[catfork]

He's an Irish catholic, exactly the type of player Celtic like signing. Hence why they go for robbie keane, shay given, damien duff, richard dunee,etc very close season.

Moving to celtic would be a bad move, the standard is lower especially as Celtic never make the champions league these days

Better off going to a mid-table prem team by far. Aston villa, newcastle, sunderland,etc those are the type of clubs he should be aiming for.

Oh hello...proddy dog has arrived - he should go where he wants

[FiNeRaIn]

Stop being a bigot.

[catfork]

Stop being a bigot.

oh sorry - we're on the team board not general football - you behave yourself here

[The Rouge]

ITV.com

1 Sinclair Swansea City 19 5 0 3 27 (9 pen)

2 Graham Watford 23 3 0 0 26 (1 pen)

3 Long Reading 21 2 0 2 25 (7 pen)

4 Holt Norwich City 21 2 0 0 23 (3 pen)

To be fair, 1 pen shows what a sensational season Graham had for a team which never challenged the scorers.

[Snowball]

Agreed Graham did very well but the team was set up to win 5-4 most of the season
and were scoring (and conceding) for fun for a long time.

He had an interesting scoring pattern, plenty of blank runs and some brilliant patches

2-2 Great start to the season. Four goals in 2 games and he beats Shane by 2 goals in the season...
0-0-0-0
1-1-2
0-0-0-0-0-0-0
1
0-0-0
1-2-2-1-1-1-1
0-0-0-0
1
0-0-0
1-1-1-1-2-1
0-0
1
0-0-0-0-0

So there's "1 goal in 11 games" and "1 goal in 8" (twice) = 3 goals in 27 games....

Presumably, then, he's crap...

[Scarface]

i think we will hold on to him the emotion he showed at the end of p.o final showed how much reading meant to him , moving would uprooting his baby and mrs , i think mcd cud improve him still as a player and if he stays we could have a very good push for promotion

You are very naive my friend, whatever you might like to think Long doesn't give a toss and will jump at the chance of moving to the Prem and trebling his wages, even if it does mean sitting on the bench. You can't blame him.

[AthleticoSpizz]

My daughter took over (his now Mrs's) job............when Shane got paid, and they obviously didn't her revenue anymore.

A totally pointless post...but just my tenuous link to a great kid that we have seen develop from Kevin Doyles stable-mate/make weight, to a potential world class player.

Enjoy the media hype Shane...........you've earnt it this season

[sandman]

i think we will hold on to him the emotion he showed at the end of p.o final showed how much reading meant to him , moving would uprooting his baby and mrs , i think mcd cud improve him still as a player and if he stays we could have a very good push for promotion

You are very naive my friend, whatever you might like to think Long doesn't give a toss and will jump at the chance of moving to the Prem and trebling his wages, even if it does mean sitting on the bench. You can't blame him.

Tbf I don't agree that Shane "doesn't give a toss". It's obvious that he respects the club and has a great bond with the manager. He'll leave, that's pretty obvious, but he'll do so with a heavy heart imo.

[Super_horns]

Sky Sport say you could be getting an offer of 7.5 million for Long from Bayern!

[toppy]

Sky Sport say you could be getting an offer of 7.5 million for Long from Bayern!

As much as you'd love him to stay, we couldnt turn that down.